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Why Anti-American Sentiments Exist in The Muslim World

Mian Usman April 26, 2002

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#32 Posted by fawad79 on April 29, 2002 2:28:59 pm
1) as a pakistani i admit pakistan is a cheap whore to the arabs

2) i agree that the world is jealous of jews but the jews believe that they are the most oppressed in the world and u cant deny that and the palis arent angel neither are the jews

3) yeah the muslim world created its own problems i ad mit that

4) so what is your whole point? pakistan should stop supporting the arabs? support india? give me a break ...yeah pakistan has not gotten its fair share from them and it is being exploited but pakistan has receved vast amount of aid from the arabs will India give it to us???????? LOOOOL sucking up to the arabs is necessary in order to recive aid ...................the indian desire for us to have bad relations with the arabs is not a new one..................hey answer me why is criticism of indian handling of the gujrat affair constitute intereference in india`s internal affairs????????????????/ i love indian hypocracy its so blatant .....yes pakistan is a hypocrite too but we dont pretend to be a secular democracy...................

aside from ur diatribe against pakistani support for the arabs ur post was on the mark.....................



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#31 Posted by soundmeister on April 29, 2002 2:28:59 pm
Pyaare Usman Mian,

My eyes are opened! I am weeping big big tears and beating my breast in the anguish of my past ignorance. Now I am absolutely clear in my mind why Mussalmaan is hated throughout the Zionist-Crusader-idolator alliance.

I think it is being the lack of hijab that is causing them all to be so jealous and hating us. Every red-blooded American man wishes deep in heart that the strip club he visits every Friday night be converted into mosque where he can pray 5 times a day, and the womenfolk who dance will be forcing to go into their homes and pray from there.

And you are rightly saying the reasons why Muslim brethren are hating the Satanists: the Iran-Iraq war was an Islamic-Christian conflict, was it not? Also, the Gulf war, which started because the revered leader Saddam Hussain invaded that Christian-Zionist state of Kuwait. The Westerners, because fo their backwardness, are jealous of our Islamic science that succeeds in tapping the energy of jinns and measuring the distance from jaanat. But most rightly you are saying so that the Crusades caused all the trouble and Muslim brethren are not forgiving the Christian marauders who are now occupying America and England. After all crusades happened only in 12th century, very fresh and hurting in our memory, and we are still angry at the Christian pigs. Bloody ungrateful our prophet (PBUH) gave them most favoured status and this is how they behave! Death to the ingrates! Death to the Zionist-Crusaders! Death to the kafirs!



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#30 Posted by arjun_m on April 29, 2002 12:08:10 am
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#29 Posted by notamullah on April 29, 2002 12:08:10 am
Dear Mian Usman,

Perhaps you should read Bernard Lewis the Princeton Professor of Middle-Eastern History who has numerous books and papers on this topic. Your thoughts improperly put the blame mainly on ``Western media`` for Islam`s image.

The western media does not label most countries with an muslim majority as ``Islamic`` because of their demographics but because of their constitutions. Most countries like Pakistan for example proclaim themselves as the ``Islamic`` Republic of Pakistan. Most (if not all) even have a proclaimed state religion. Why not should the Western media call them so? Any valid reason and lunch is on me.

As for the ``Islamic Bomb``, Nawaz Sharif (and Pervaiz Musharaff subsequently) have called it so to gain popular support and raise Pakistan`s prestige in the `Islamic`` lands.

If muslims feel it is important not to be known only for their religious inclinations but for their many other qualities they should stop acting like Islam is ``oxygen``. There is life and salvation outside the Koran like many christians and their secular societies openly profess about religion being a personal affair rather than a legislative manuscript.

The blame for Islam`s poor image is not western media but muslims and muslim societies themselves.

NotAMullah



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#28 Posted by hamidm on April 28, 2002 7:09:21 pm
shankar

you say to urstryly:

``So go ahead, ustaad, drop your pants, bend over... in the presence of an Arab. Once a randi, ALWAYS a randi...Then you wonder why NOBODY in this world listens to Pakistan?! Yo! theyre more interested in ramming your cute butts than hearing what you have to say...``

.... i know, i know, urstruly deserves it ... but somehow i expected a little bit more finesse from you ........ urstruly might represent the worst of pakistan, but you don`t have to stoop to his level to make your point ........



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#27 Posted by Shah on April 28, 2002 4:10:43 pm
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#26 Posted by Shah on April 28, 2002 4:10:43 pm
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#25 Posted by Shah on April 28, 2002 4:10:43 pm
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#24 Posted by Rdesikan on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
Re shankar # 13

When a whole lot of people have this surname Butt, what else can you expect? a nice full toss from you



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#23 Posted by shankar on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
12head,

{{IF YOU MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT, I CAN CHARGE THAT INDIA & HINDIAN HAVE NOT BEEN ACCEPTING OF PARTITION & PAKISTAN THEMSELVES.}}

Huhn, that ``charge`` is being made, repeatedly, by Pakistan, even today! So what is new?! Besides, it seems to me that the powers that be in Pakistan--the military--absolutely believe that like its gospel truth.

Arafat has not been able to do a damn thing about Palestinian terrorism for 2 reasons:

1)There are plenty of factions among Palestinians who believe that any deal with the jews is a sell-out.

2) Mossad is fully convinced that Arafat says one thing in public, but secretly supports these factions he`s supposed to ``control``. Dont underestimate the efficiency of Mossad.

One thing is sure..even if he`s telling the truth..he cant control them. Thats why hardline Israelis feel that Arafat is a non entity.

When Arafat sided with Saddam during his occupation Of Kuwait..it pissed the Saudis & Kuwaitis. Numerically they maybe smaller than the rest of the Arabs. But they have petro-dollars..& that makes them very powerful. After the Gulf war, it became clear to these powerful Arabs that they should at least make some accomodation with Israel..cos it aint gonna go away.

Jews are one of the most upwardly mobile people in the world. They are hard working, industrious, emphasise education to their children & have an incredible business acumen. Anywhere in the world, if Jews are given half a chance, they reach the pinnacle in society. Their contributions to the arts & sciences have been legendary, & continue to be so. The world would be a much poorer place without Einstein, Menhuin..heck..even Seinfeld. Thats one of the main reasons they are hated...pure JEALOUSY.

Its no wonder Jews said we are no longer going to lie down & get screwed by the rest of the world. ``We will create Israel & fight to preserve it with the last drop of our blood``. In the process they have also become the most admired military in the world, as well.

There are only a few muslims on Chowk (sigalph & even ylh..) who have the courage to look inwards & call a spade a spade.

I have no sympathy for the Palestinians. They desecrated the Olympics, hijacked planes & have the blood of plenty of civilians on their hands. How many Palestinian mofos have shown solidarity with the Kashmiris & the Kurds? They are sooo absorbed in feeling sorry for themselves that they think they are the only frikking oppressed people in the world. They have bastardised their cause by terrorism. EU can give murmurs of sympathy to them....they are totally dependant on Arab oil. If push comes to shove..wanna bet who the EU will support..Arabs or the US-Israel alliance?!

The one thing Palestinans are good at...breeding like rabbits! An average Palestinian woman bears 4-6 children, at least. Despite all the oil money they have got, how many schools & universities have they put up? They are very good at producing more disaffected youth who are brainwashed into thinking strapping themselves with dynamite & blowing themselves is an ``Islamic`` crusade. They spit upon the face of your Prophet!.

The rest of the Arabs have very little to show for themselves too. The oil rich states could have used the money to make themselves the bastion of Islamic education & a create a renaissance in Islamic arts & sciences. Whats the point of boasting that muslims invented algebra?!

No; Saudis are squandering money in Cadillacs, horses, falcons, harems, trips to Switzerland & donating to madrassahs that produce a generation semi-literate fundos. Its pathetic to see these kids squatting on the floor, rocking back & forth like automatons, memorising the Quran, by rote, without even understanding the meaning. At best they grow up to be like that Naqsbandhi character who thinks Arabs hold some sort of exatled status in the Muslim world because the Prophet was Arab! Seems to me Pakistanis like these (& they are a dime a dozen) have noses that are 10 shades browner than their face--when they come into contact with Arabs.

Instead of creating a resurgence of the Golden era of Islam, their legacy is to hijack the Muslim world & regress it back to the 16th century way of living...totally anachronistic in today`s world.

Lets be brutally frank. What have the Pakistanis got by all this brown nosing?!

--Arabs give them murmurs of sympathy about Kashmir..& behind their backs wink & nod to India!

--Pakistani workers are treated no differently than kafirs in the Gulf states. Nothing more than second class citizens!

--A small time Saudi prince flies into Pakistan..does some backdoor negotiating with Mushy & his chamchas..the next thing you know Al-Sharif & fly. are packed off to S.Arabia with their billions. What happens to ``due process`` of Pakistani law?! Yup, Jinnah would have been VERY VERY proud!

Has a SINGLE Pakistani politician -military or civilian- ever had the GUTS to stand up to these Arabs & say ``why are you treating us like a whore?!`` O yeah! its very ``fashionable`` to blame AMERICA!! When it comes to their Arab sugar daddies, they are into a TOTAL state of denial.

Urstruly Mian,

Cat got your tongue?!



Open your eyes & mouth at least admit that Arabs have treated Pakistan like a cheap randi. Bought & screwed repeatedly with Petro-dollars. Do Chosen People like you & Naqsbandhi go to Arabia for an education or jobs...naah! You live in the West & curse it.

Shameless namak-haraam randi cowards. You talk about hindu conscience?! What the F happened to the conscience of the Guardians of Islam?! And dont just say its the fault of Arab leadership. What great lenghts has the average Saudi-on-the street gone to in his support for Kashmiris?! O yes! there are processions upon processions in Arab countries coming out in support of Palestinians. Have they had EVER put a swastika on the Indian flag & burned it?

So go ahead, ustaad, drop your pants, bend over... in the presence of an Arab. Once a randi, ALWAYS a randi...Then you wonder why NOBODY in this world listens to Pakistan?! Yo! theyre more interested in ramming your cute butts than hearing what you have to say...



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#22 Posted by arjun_m on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
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#21 Posted by arjun_m on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
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#20 Posted by hobbyty on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm


If it`s OK for Israel to have Palestinan land and to be recognized like Skanakar says they should, Kashmir, Khalistan, Hyderabad and Junagardh ought to recieve a similar consideration?



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#19 Posted by Trillium on April 28, 2002 1:32:59 pm
Urstruly

``Most of the Muslim countries today, have rulers who are helpless puppets in the hands of Westerns.``

...and shame on who? The `Westerns`? Puleeze! Most `Muslim countries` are far too busy and preoccupied with sniping, arguing and victimizing each other in their various forms of Muslim feudalism. Constructive political activism and self organization, requires REAL courage and brotherhood for feudal reforms - not to mention `cajones`. It`s much easier - even less

dangerous to obsess on the West than to challenge your real enemy: your local Landlord. He knows when you`ve been `bad or good` and has a vested interest in keeping his votership stupid. Viva la madrassah. So far, very effective.





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#18 Posted by sigalph235 on April 28, 2002 12:23:11 am
re shah 16

``FIRST MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD INCLUDING PALESTENIANS (who are most affected by this) HAVE CATEGORICALLY STATED TIME & AGAIN THAT THEY NEITHER HAVE GOAL OF ANNIHILATING ISRAEL ``

That is quite improbable. The PLO`s charter calls for the destruction of Israel. That portion is SUSPENDED but still not aborgated from the Palestinian National Covenant.

Syria, Libya, Iran, and Iraq (all Muslim countries last time I checked) have their official positions as the destruction of the `Zionist entity`.

And if the Muslim countries really accept Israel why cannot they recognize it?



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#17 Posted by Prem on April 28, 2002 12:23:11 am
re: scout # 14

Great post. By focusing on the wrongs committed by others we lose out ability to solve our own problems. Christians slaughtered and oppressed Jews for centuries. Muslims of all hues themselves accumulated quite a phenomenal record. We Hindus oppressed our own people, often driving them into the fold of other religions. The Japanese committed unspeakable horrors against many SE Asians. One could go on, for the list of human depravity is indeed long.



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