The Last Crusade

Hobbyty,

`it`s hardly concieveable that Mr. Musharraf or his government would mount or support such an operation - after all where is his advantage, what does he gain?`

The point is not, what does he gain, it is his unwillingness to stamp out terrorist organisations, which operate in India. He may not be directing their day to day activities, and as such their agenda does on always coincide with his advantages or gains. Even when he at his loudest at proclaming his war against terrorists, he is only refering to the acts against USA. He

100% subscribes to the theory of bleeding India by use of these terrorists.

The sad part is that, this seems to have set a chain of events, the end result of which is going to be a war, with the possibity of nuclear exchange.

Travard

I`m not suggesting that India be goaded - I think if Indian realize that a negotiated settlement is the appropriate manner in which this and any other outstanding problem between Pakistan and India ought to be resolved, both Pakistan and India will have removed this obstacle from their future relations.

I think it`s both ineffective and dishonest for this Indian government to be stubborn with regard to the need for a negotiated settlement. It has commited itself to a military and diplomatic offensive against the Kashmiri to extinguish the freedom struggle and equating it with terrorism - in this way, it takes a position that will be make it very difficult, if not impossible to recourse to negotiations.

Tahmed

The fact that you associate yourself with certain positions, allows Chowkies the opportunity to reconsider positions they would be less inclined to, were it not for your association with them. I took some time to consider your post - I did not find the positions you suggested to be compelling. I`m particularly concerned that you seem to disregard or give little credence to the fact that the Kashmiri struggle is essentially Kashmiri, certainly Pakistan takes advantage of Indian failures and certainly Pakistan`s claim has international legitimacy - I`m not saying that the Lashkars have not played a role, a deadly role, but I think it is less than fair to negate the struggle of the Kashmiri themselves or to characterize the struggle of the kashmiri in it`s entirety, by the Lashkars.

If it is your position that a piece of land must not matter, is to hold, does it not apply equally the Indian? After all, Kashmiris are being killed by Indian occupation forces daily, are they not?

Will your position be the same if the Indian shall inflict heavy cost upon Pakistan? Will you counsel that a piece of land does not matter - is right and wrong to be reduced to how much punishment one can endure?

If freedom of a piece of land is what the Kashmiri struggle for, The Indian kills daily to negate such a possibility, no? What is the reason the Kashmiri stuggles? Is freedom to be reduced to the ability to bear pain? inflict pain? Does that realization not suggest that a negotiated settlement is the course to take? A public commitment to the course of a negotiated settlement, will have the effect of negating the necessity of Indian occupation forces, it will negate the need for armed struggle, it will allow for forces to withdraw, it will allow Pakistan to concentrate on cleaning up house. These moves will undoubtably help Pakistan - would they help India? Would it help the captive kashmiri? The answer is obvious.

Allow me to elaborate on my understanding of why Pakistan cannot bite the bullet ``all at once`` and why it is irresponsiple to do so: Internally, clearly some religious parties have turned to obscuritanism and have given support to the effort of international terror - to act as if they are without support or that they cannot cause serious injury to domestic tranquility (to the degree that it exist) is simply irresponsible - they can be handled but the effort to redirect resources so as to address this weed in Gulistan from the root, is not amenable to immediacy. Also taking religious parties out of the political equation is itself, not without implications -I would suggest that it is more desirable that the ideas that have gained credence among these parties, should be defeated - but if defeated by brute force or violence, they will never die, they will only go underground - become even more dangerous, attract more of the romantically inclinced, the misguided, with Mr. Musharraf labeled a traitor, Pakistan labeled other vulgar names.

You are right and most everyone agrees that obscurtanist terror ought to be deprived a home in Pakistan - this realization need not blind us that there are other individuals and organized groups and countries who are similarly hostile towards Pakistan, and that there is a relationship, or an equation that needs to present in our consideration. I may be mistaken but perhaps you know of another situation or another country that feels free to act or has acted successfully against domestic terror while a hostile power has positioned armed might on it`s borders? Additionally, In my opinion, Pakistan cannot feel it has a free hand to deal with obscuritanist terror, which may well mean investigating and targetting certain religious parties, prior to the upcoming elections - regardless of the merits of the recent referendum, Mr. Musharraf`s government will have a significantly stronger position, to face such a internal threat, after the October elections. All are agreed that the religious parties cannot, never have, obtained any electoral power, however; lets not forget that they do, can, exercise disruptive power and an appeal to conscience.

Should Pakistan work to defang and disband the Kashmir focus Lashkars? begs the questions why did these particular Lashkars came to be? To the best of my knowledge these Lashkars are not, have not, been involved with act of terror in Pakistan. If more than a million Indian soldiers cannot stop infiltration, it is difficult to make a case Pakistani police ought to oblige the Indian - If Indian made a public commitment to a negotiated settlement and the evacuation of Indian occupation forces, with the condition that the military arm of these Lashkars ought to be disbanded, and only political activity be acceptable, no one disagrees with this, I`m sure.

Were the indian to do this, the lashkars turned political parties, I`m sure, would fare as well in the political and electoral process in Captive Kashmir, as they have in Pakistan. The only part of their appeal to the Kashmiri is their call for Captive Kashmir to be afforded it`s rightful place in Pakistan.

The domestic sectarian Lashkars deserve no such consideration, they have been banned, their activist continue to suffer when engaging police, their funding, both international and domestic has taken a hit - but of course - it is the IDEAS that propel these obscuritanist terrorists that must be defeated in society - for the sake of Islam itself, for the sake of conscience - I wonder if you think that this can be achieved effectively, while Indian armed forces are on the border and while innocents are targetted daily by Indian occupation forces on the eastern border, and clumsy imperial alliance troops on the Western border?

If it is true that there are those whose interests are served by provoking a war between Pakistan and India, and that terror events are created with this in objective in mind - does it not necessitate that a public commitment to a negotiated settlement on the conditions of a cessation of armed insurrection and the evacuation of Indian occupation forces be first steps to the eventual freedom of captive Kashmir?

Zafar, Akash, Prem, Sadna and other Indians,

I think the Indian govt is fast running out of cards to play and may be forced to take military action the next time a major terrorist incident happens. We have already cut road, rail and air links with Pakistan, stopped playing cricket, stopped talks, withdrawn our High Commissioner and now thrown out their High Commissioner.

What other cards do we have as a substitute of going to war - cutting off trade links (I am not sure if Indo-Pak trade is of significant amount actually), the Indus Water Treaty, not much else. In short, we have exhausted all options short of going to war.

Many Indians have been angered by the spate of terrorist attacks and would not mind if the army crossed the LoC and attacked some training camps or whatever. The Indian attacks may not be decisive, terrorist attacks may continue, but if India decides that it will cross the LoC and attack terrorist camps whenever they spring up or in response to major terrorist attacks, it will give Pakistani army some pause to think.

In terms of rupee costs, given that the army is already mobilised, I feel the expenses of a short war with Pakistan may not be significantly more than the current cost of keeping the army mobilised ($800 million USD per month).

However, I am not sure if even all this will resolve the problem of infiltration and terrorism. That can be stopped only by the Pakistani govt and it would be in our interests if there is a strong democratically elected govt in Pakistan. This cannot happen while Musharraf is around, hence Musharraf should go.

Reply Harpreet

”Indira Gandhi and the whole Gandhi family are better off forgotten. It was her mafioso that picked up the petrol cans and daggers in 1984 when the Earth moved when that big tree fell. It is her mafioso that still controls Congress, giving BJP fascists a free reign. Let the Gandhi family dissapear into obscurity for the sake of Indian humanity.”

Ok. The dynastic thing is rubbish. I agree. And yes, the N_Gs have consistently weakened all other possible leadership (read grass roots) in the Congress.

Re: Indira’s legacy – it is VERY mixed – and yes, I do recognise that Delhi has not, to this day, recovered properly from the 1984 riots BECAUSE THE GUILTY STILL WALK FREE AND UNASHAMED TO THIS DAY. And that the Congress will have to deal with this in some meaningful manner if it wants to go back to being the natural party of Government in India.



I can’t decide whether IGplaying communal politics without believing them makes her better (not personally communal) or worse (utterly without scruple) than our current lot. Or functionally the same so irrelevant?

Reply Nasah # 173

”....... and introducing the BOMB to the subcontinent... for which it is difficult to forgive her.”

Bomb? What bomb? Aap hamare Indiraji ke peaceful nuclear device ke baare men baath kar rahe hain?

Reply Tahmed321 # 224

“Zafar Al Talib: So you would close off our water supply! No problem. I will advise my father and my other relations in Pakistan to fill up water in buckets and tubs and so forth. When that runs out, my relations will all show up at your door every morning to wash up. That takes care of that strategy. Any other strategic ideas?”

OKAY Mr Tahmed! it was a somewhat fatuous thought for me to follow through on. Vaisai, you and yours are always welcome at me mine’s. (Closest headquarters to Pakistan is currently Gurgaon (right next to New Delhi.) Aaiye, aaiye, hum sabh mil ke bahaut maza karenge…We will eat at Moti Mahal (Old Delhi, ok, just so you can compare our tandoori chicken with yours), at Karims (Nizamuddin OR Old Delhi for Mughal – sorry Sadna, but it really IS Mughal – khana), we will take you to Woodlands and Dasaprakash for South Indian thaalis, dosais, appams, idlis, etc.

And this is just in the first week! Second week hum cultural program karenge, starting with graam jhanki at Pragati Maidan (kids will like)…

But more seriously, what is a better alternative for India to do?

Do tit for tat type raids across the border? Surely a water shortage for a few weeks (albeit destructive of the rural economy) is far better, and makes the same point, than killing innocent Pakistanis because we want the jihadi groups to stop killing innocent Indians?

But as Sadnaji hamen bathaathe hain, we actually lack the facilities to stop flow of water to Pakistan…so all these issues and culinary delights will have to wait for a few years.

Regards

Reply Akash, Banjara # 225

I’ll admit that it hadn’t occurred to me that my name was not on Akash`s list because I was Muslim…but, of course, you have all made some very good points. Akash, I liked your Maulana Azad quote. (Kya karen, gentlemen, dil tho soppy hi hai…)

Anyway...I am now in trouble with TAhmed for my ``detailed analysis``! You just can`t win on chowk...

hobbyty #221 you write ``Frustration has been that since Pakistanis understand that thwy must bite the bullet, why don`t they just go ahead and do it all at once``

Agreed

you continue `` -Reality of politics, both internally and external dynamics do not allow for this possibility.``

Disagreed. Where there is a will there is a way. Mullahs are determined to take over society by force (having failed in elections). NOTHING can be in the higher national interest, or int he higher interest of Pakistanis today and of coming generations, than to put an end to the evil of Mullahism. Compared to the damage Mullahism is doing to Pakistani society even today, decoits and robbers are like petty shoplifters. Pakistanis would have turned into a nation of refugees (like the Afghan refugees) if they had ever come into power.

you write ``And as far as stopping infilration Mr. Ahmed, just what are those Indian soldiers supposed to be doing? Is it not their responsibility?``

Agreed that it has proved impossible to stop infiltration in any country. But the Pakistan army can and should stamp out the lashkar CAMPS INSIDE Pakistan. And only the Pakistan army can do that, unless of course permission is given to Indian troops to do that. What kind of a nation are we if we cannot take on a bunch of hoodlums.

You write ``Once the injury to Pakistan has been redressed to Pakistan`s satisfaction, that is the Kashmiri shall be free, Indian shall not need army of occupation``

The only injury we should be concerned with is to the people of Kashmir. And continuing violence is doing them injury both physically and economically. And the poor people of Kashmir are too poor to sustain such hardships. Let us have pity on them, and put an end to this conflict. If Pakistan is slightly smaller on the map as a result, that is fine. Land area means nothing - it is the quality of life of the people that is important.

I may go through the rest of your post later. But I hope you will give some thought to what I am saying here.

GREAT NEWS.

There is Islamic Pakistan beyond the realm of Mushharrafs` PIMPISTAAN....the secular/atheist/non-muslim `elite`.

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Rocket fired at U.S. personnel in Pakistan

MIRANSHAH, Pakistan, May 18 (Reuters) - A rocket was fired on Saturday at a building housing U.S. personnel hunting for Taliban and al Qaeda fugitives in western Pakistan, the third such attack in a month, but it missed its target, a government official said.

He said unidentified men fired the rocket in Miranshah, the headquarters of the semi-autonomous North Waziristan tribal region, at around 2.00 a.m. on Saturday (2000 GMT Friday) but it exploded on a nearby hill, causing no loss of life or property.

``It was apparently targeted at the vocational training school where a few U.S. personnel are staying but missed its target,`` said the official, who asked not to be identified.

Two other rocket attacks on the school in recent weeks also caused no harm.

Hundreds of members of Osama bin Laden`s al Qaeda network are believed to have crossed the border into Pakistan from neighbouring Afghanistan, and small numbers of U.S. security personnel are helping Pakistani troops hunt them down.

But the fiercely independent tribesmen of the region oppose the presence of U.S. personnel in Pakistan, and many sympathise with the Taliban,

A police official earlier said soldiers and paramilitary troops had seized a huge haul of ammunition from an arms dealer`s house near the town on Saturday.

``At least two pick-up loads of rockets, missiles and mortar bombs was recovered from his house,`` he said.

Pakistan`s tribal areas are awash with arms which have spilled over from Afghanistan, but the sale of heavy arms and ammunition was banned by the government when President Pervez Musharraf threw his weight behind U.S.-led war on terror.

Now let us hear another Jahil President of US speak his Rhodeship.Always remember,the higher the designation the more jahil will be the recipient.Rhodes,Pulitzer,or Nobel are licenses to kill or prizes to plunder.NEVER ever identify yourself with such crap ----if you are a muslim,that is.YOU are not THEM.

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Clinton Discounts 1999 Report That Warned of Possible Suicide Hijackings Into Federal Buildings

FBI Admits: No Evidence Links `Hijackers` to 9-11

The possibility that 19 Muslim men accused of being the Sept. 11 hijackers were not, in fact, the hijackers, is not so extraordinary an idea as it might seem.



Exclusive To American Free Press

By Michael Collins Piper



After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller has now admitted quite the opposite.

That 19 Muslim men who have apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in doubt.

What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually plotting anything, either individually or together.

The amazing possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been assigned guilt in the tragedy.

In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly:



In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper—either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere—that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot.



In describing Mueller’s evidence fiasco, Los Angeles Times reporters Erich Lichtblau and Josh Meyer, whose article was reprinted in The Washington Post on April 30, note that:



Law enforcement officials say that while they have been able to reconstruct the movements of the hijackers before the attacks—all legal except for a few speeding tickets—they have found no evidence of their actual plotting.



The Times reporters acknowledge that Mueller’s comments “offer the FBI’s most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have.”

The FBI director explained away the absence of evidence by making the disingenuous assertion that the hijackers used “meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy and extensive knowledge of how America works” to conceal their scheme.

Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda “network” but that they were indeed the individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11.

Mueller seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly hyped “discoveries”—letters and other documents—in the luggage and personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which “proved” that they were on a “mission for Allah,” etc etc.

Now Mueller’s comments seem to contradict everything that’s been said.

Do the colonialClones still have their minds still in control or they really take their education seriously?

Do you feel your faculties abandoning you?---it will happen if your onluy ptride is Unclish language & Unclish culture.

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FBI Admits: No Evidence Links `Hijackers` to 9-11

The possibility that 19 Muslim men accused of being the Sept. 11 hijackers were not, in fact, the hijackers, is not so extraordinary an idea as it might seem.

Exclusive To American Free Press

By Michael Collins Piper

After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller has now admitted quite the opposite.

That 19 Muslim men who have apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in doubt.

What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually plotting anything, either individually or together.

The amazing possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been assigned guilt in the tragedy.

In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly:



In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper—either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere—that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot.



In describing Mueller’s evidence fiasco, Los Angeles Times reporters Erich Lichtblau and Josh Meyer, whose article was reprinted in The Washington Post on April 30, note that:



Law enforcement officials say that while they have been able to reconstruct the movements of the hijackers before the attacks—all legal except for a few speeding tickets—they have found no evidence of their actual plotting.



The Times reporters acknowledge that Mueller’s comments “offer the FBI’s most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have.”

The FBI director explained away the absence of evidence by making the disingenuous assertion that the hijackers used “meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy and extensive knowledge of how America works” to conceal their scheme.

Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda “network” but that they were indeed the individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11.

Mueller seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly hyped “discoveries”—letters and other documents—in the luggage and personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which “proved” that they were on a “mission for Allah,” etc etc.

Now Mueller’s comments seem to contradict everything that’s been said.

Seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive!

Some of the men the FBI claims hijacked planes on Sept. 11 and crashed them into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania are still alive.

No they weren`t pulled from the rubble, they were never on the planes.

The FBI press release of September 27th, 2001 containing names, photographs, aliases and other information is seriously flawed. They have used these peoples names and made claims based on the fact they were pilots and other supposedly incriminating evidence and yet they were not involved. Places of birth, birthdays and other personal details were displayed on news throughout the world.

The FBI still lists these men as suspected hijackers who were killed during the terrorist assault, this is absurd. If this is the quality of the evidence they can present it is no wonder the public cannot see the rest.

7 of the 19 believed hijackers named are still alive.

Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari, Salem Alhazmi

``It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened.`` - Saudi Arabia`s Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20th

Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive.

Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi ``are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington.`` The Saudi Arabian embassy told The Orlando Sentinel.

NOTICE THE DATE OF THIS CONTINGENCY PLANING:NOVEMBER 3,2000!

DO you still doubt the cover-up & lies?Have you really gotte so brainwashed(educated?)that you just want to be with THEM rather than with MUSLIMS?---Is your mind spinning? Are you becoming icreasingly cynic? Are you stumbling i the dark & gotten off the track---off sirat-ul-mustaqueem? The Day of reckoning is not far if you are attending more funerals than birthdays.

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Contingency planning Pentagon MASCAL exercise simulates

scenarios in preparing for emergencies

Story and Photos by Dennis Ryan

MDW News Service

Click on image to view article`s photos

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Washington, D.C., Nov. 3, 2000 — The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. An Arlington Fire Department chief dispatches his equipment to the affected areas.

Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the ``plane crash`` was a simulated one.

The Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to Oct. 24-26 in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room.

On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents.

To conduct the exercise, emergency personnel hold radios that are used to rush help to the proper places, while toy trucks representing rescue equipment are pushed around the exercise table.

Cards are then passed out to the various players designating the number of casualties and where they should be sent in a given scenario.

To conduct the exercise, a medic reports to Army nurse Maj. Lorie Brown a list of 28 casualties so far. Brown then contacts her superior on the radio, Col. James Geiling, a doctor in the command room across the hall.

Geiling approves Brown`s request for helicopters to evacuate the wounded. A policeman in the room recommends not moving bodies and Abbott, playing the role of referee, nods his head in agreement.

``If you have to move dead bodies to get to live bodies, that`s okay,`` Abbott says as the situation unfolds .

Geiling remarked on the importance of such exercises.

``The most important thing is who are the players?`` Geiling said. ``And what is their modus operandi?``

Brown thought the exercise was excellent preparation for any potential disasters.

``This is important so that we`re better prepared,`` Brown said. ``This is to work out the bugs. Hopefully it will never happen, but this way we`re prepared.``

An Army medic found the practice realistic.

``You get to see the people that we`ll be dealing with and to think about the scenarios and what you would do,`` Sgt. Kelly Brown said. ``It`s a real good scenario and one that could happen easily.``

A major player in the exercise was the Arlington Fire Department.

``Our role is fire and rescue,`` Battalion Chief R.W. Cornwell said. ``We get to see how each other operates and the roles and responsibilities of each. You have to plan for this. Look at all the air traffic around here.``

Each participant was required to fill out an evaluation form after the training exercise.

``We go over scenarios that are germane to the Pentagon,`` Jake Burrell of the Pentagon Emergency Management Team said. `You play the way you practice. We want people to go back to their organizations and look at their S.O.P. (standard operating procedure) and see how they responded to any of the incidents.``

Burrell has coordinated these exercises for four years and he remarked that his team gets better each year.

Abbott, in his after action critique, reminded the participants that the actual disaster is only one-fifth of the incident and that the whole emergency would run for seven to 20 days and might involve as many as 17 agencies.

``The emergency to a certain extent is the easiest part,`` Abbott said. He reminded the group of the personal side of a disaster. ``Families wanting to come to the crash sight for closure.``

In this particular crash there would have been 341 victims.

(Ryan is a staff writer with the Fort Myer Military Community`s Pentagram

Akash # 217 & 225

As Prem said in # 197.

``Akash, if we didnt expect any better of you, then we wouldn`t ask (there are bigots galore everywhere and nobody can convince them to change their ways)...``

Regards.

Akash 220,222,223,225

Arjun_m 218,228,229

Your type Yankee Hindutva Intellectuals with overseas BJP RSS VHP indians are persecuting the best of muslims ,THE INDIAN MUSLIMS ,who bear the most brunt of these individuals.

THINK how many hindu could endure living in Pakistan .And dont tell me Indian muslims have life easier than Hindus in Pakistan .

agar Khare sagarkhare@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:

Shabana Azmi will read from ``Riot`` in NY. The following is one Mr.Narain

Kataria`s appeal against Azmi, Tharoor, ``Riot`` etc. Below that is Vijay

Prashad`s article about this appeal.

Sagar.

INDIAN AMERICANS FOR TRUTH AND FAIRNESS IN MEDIA

41-67 Judge Street (#5P)Elmhurst, N.Y. 11373(718) 478-5735

PROTEST DEMONTRATION AGAINST SHABANA AZMI IN NEW YORK

Shabana Azmi has been invited by some of her Communists-Islamists

friends to talk about Ayodhya, Gujarat and Babri Maidan. We have decided

to stage a boisterous demonstration against her with a view to expose

her anti-Indian activities.

You are kindly requested to participate in the demonstration. We have

obtained Police permission to do so. The date, time and location of the

demonstration are as under:

Date: May 21st (Tuesday)Location: 65 Fifth Avenue, between 13th and 14th

Street

Time: 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call the

undersigned.

Brotherly yours,

Narain Kataria

Shabana`s bio-data

SHABANA AZMI UNMASKED

Shabana Azmi, daughter of Kaifi Azmi and Shaukat Azmi, both hard core

Communists, is again in USA. Last time, when she was here, there were

protests in many cities against her. Ostensibly, she has come to read a

passage from ``Riot`` a book written by infamous Hindu-hater, Shashi

Tharoor . [Mr. Tharoor has done more damage to Hindu society and India

than Pakistan by publishing anti-Hindu and anti-Indian articles in

mainstream media.] But behind this façade, there is an ignoble intent

and a hidden agenda hatched by deadly combine of Marxist-Islamists to

denigrate Hindus, discredit India and strain Indo-American relations.

This time, she has come to wash dirty linen in public at the invitation

of her leftist friends, having closer links with Islamic fundamentalists

in this country. In the interest of national security, both, Government

of India and FBI should keep a watch on the contacts of this

sophisticated woman.

This notorious woman has soft corner for Islamic militants and Talibans.

In order to protect Islamic terrorists, she unsuccessfully tried to

block the passage of Prevention of Terrorist Act in Indian Parliament.

For the same reason, she condemned American attack on Talibans. She is a

very controversial and cunning person. This time, it seems, she is on a

mission to create communal conflict and discord between Hindus and

Moslems living in peace and harmony in this country.

Being a professional actress, she is very good at acting. She uses her

charm to hoodwink gullible Indian-Americans in believing that she is a

liberal Moslem woman. She practices sophistry and stratagem with equal

vehemence. In India, she hobnobs with followers of Lenin and Stalin.

When in USA, she struts around as a progressive Moslem women. It may

sound paradoxical, but, in fact, at heart, she is a strange blend of a

fundamentalist Moslem woman and a diehard Communist, out to defame

Hindus and tarnish the image of India.

This crafty woman suffers from Hindu phobia and needs urgent counseling.

At the mention of the word ``Hindu``, Shabana plunges into spontaneous

rage and starts hurling scurrilous innuendoes on Hindus. She uses her

dramatic skills to belittle and denigrate Hindu civilization. All her so

called cultural and social activities (including Narbada Bachao Andolan

and upliftment of slum-dwellers in Mumbai) are calculated to slander

Hindus and create disdain in the younger generation for their Hindu

heritage. With a view to insult Hindus, in the movie ``Tumhari Amrita``,

Shabana played the role of a characterless Hindu woman addicted to

drinking and many other vices, begging a married Muslim man to have sex

with him. In ``Fire``, the two lesbian girls were deliberately and

mischievously named Radha and Sita. In ``Earth``, she played the role of a

Hindu widow in Varanasi 100 years ago.

She is always in the forefront of anti-Hindu activities. She had taken a

leading role in Safdar Hashmi Memorial Trust (``SAHMAT``, a fundamentalist

Islamic group) exhibition, in which Hindu deities were ridiculed and

Bhagwan Ram and Mother Sita were depicted as brother and sister.

Shabana is born with an animus against Hindu society. She is a

hypocrite. Whenever Hindus are terrorized by Islamic militants, she

either goes underground or maintains sphinx like silence. The following

are a few examples: (a) when more than 500,000 Hindus and Sikhs were

ethnically cleansed from Kashmir and Afghanistan, (b) in 1993, when more

than 400 Hindus were blown to bits in Bombay, (c) in 1998, 50 Hindus

were bombed in Coimbatore, India, and (d) on February 27, 2001, 60

innocent Hindu women and children were burnt alive by Islamic

terrorists.In the backdrop of what has been said above, it is crystal

clear that Shabana is a very dangerous woman and has the potential to

create trouble in the society. It is not understood on what grounds this

vicious lady has been allowed by American Embassy to come to this

country and pollute the peaceful atmosphere.



Yankee Hindutva`s Intellectual.

Who is Naarain Kataria and why is he after Shabana Azmi?