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Refugees of A Refugee Camp

Zeemax June 4, 2002

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#21 Posted by Layman on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
tulukka_koothi #9:

Your handle is offensive to Muslims. Just because it is in Tamil, a language not many on Chowk understand, does not mean you should feel free to use it.



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#20 Posted by Viking on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
tulukka_koothi @9:

strange.... is that your name, dude ? ;-)



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#19 Posted by Viking on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
keep whining... israel is there and it is there to stay. the palestines and the arabs, they tried their best, and it`s now time they opened thier eyes...



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#18 Posted by soundmeister on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
Reply temporal#1;

``Palestine (like that other perennial troubled spot Kashmir) is essentially a real-estate issue…"

Really? Then why don`t you guys make us a nice offer and buy that piece of sh1t off us?

...and while on the topic, Bihar`s up for grabs also :))



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#17 Posted by soundmeister on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
Jeez not another one!

As long as you guys don`t get your heads out of your stupid religious texts and live in the real world, there`s absolutely no hope for you.

Is that so difficult for god`s sake?



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#16 Posted by Viking on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
only noah`s family and the creatures that he took inside the ark are supposed to survived the legendary flood... that means the decendants of ismail should have been exterminated too ??? how come they survive to this day ???

make me wonder if some ismail bred SoBs managed to sneak past into the ark right under the nose of noah and the god... hmmm.. if they could have done that on a little ark, LoC should be a piece of cake.....



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#15 Posted by dullabhatti on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
two years ago Zeemax was Pakistani from sargodha...today he is a palesitian from Jenin. Congratulations on your immigration and racial conversion bhai sahib:-). Interesting to know that while Nuclear bombs are cruising over your family and friends` heads you have been putting all your energy and thoughts into solving this ancient problem of the holy land.

I think your purposal in conclusion #3 might be acceptable to many Canadians and Americans. I suggested it to my friend Jacob few minutes ago...he says ..fine..it is a very good purposal...but with one condition. Canada and USA will take all the Jews of Middle East if all the Muslims from America and Canada go to Middle East(or whichever other Muslim land they want to go to).

heck...we can solve the Kashmir and Sikh problem in similar way....send all Indians back from Australia,Canada and USA and bring in all Sikhs and Kashmiris.....that will even help the American economy..all unemployed American engineers will get the jobs left by indians and we can make all that plastic and embroidered stuff right here instead of importing from China and other Asian countries.

Pashmina and lassi for every american!



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#14 Posted by ali1 on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
I am getting sick of both the Palestinians and the Israelis; and of Pakistanis who have nothing better to do than worry about them.



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#13 Posted by ana on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
oy vey..a thousand apologies. I had attributed a statement to temporal that was actually made by godot (for whom i am still waiting ;)..)



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#12 Posted by akhlesh on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
``The land of Canaan is Palestinian land and the Jews can either request their masters to resettle them in Canada...``

What nonsense! Israel is a reality that

the Arab countries will have to accept. The only

democracy (even though imperfect) suurounded

by religious/tribal/fascist tyrannies of all sorts, Israel is a shining beacon of progress to all

Arabs.



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#11 Posted by ana on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
hmmm...

I dunno, Zeemax. there are quite a few problems with this article.

I don`t doubt the veracity of the Quran-e-Majeed, but I question your questioning of the authenticity of the Anjeel-e-Muqaddas, as well as the Torah.

Of course, as temporal farmaos, this is completely tilted towards the Palestinians (nothing wrong with speaking out for them..mind you). But I fail to understand why you would make statememts such as `Jews are a strange people. They were not persecuted without a reason since the milleniums between Pharaoh’s times till 1948.` or your assessment of the Holocaust as being because Christians hated the Jews because they killed Jesus. Words like this remind me of neo-Nazis, and other jew-haters. I`m not saying you`re one of THOSE. Obviously you`re frustrated and angry about what is happening with the Palestinians, and I am too..but talking about sending the Jews to Canada, or the falastinis to Jordan and most definitely mushroom clouds are not the answer. Nor is implying the superiority of one holy book over another.



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#10 Posted by chandan on June 5, 2002 11:43:27 am
Shouldnt the follow up conclusion of this article be that any attempts to carve out nations based on religion or artificial abstract theories like ``two-nation theories`` are bound to fail and lead to conflicts. Western nations have applied their short sighted principles in Palestine, Indian subcontinent and Balkans with horrific results. Basic problems of many conflicts have roots in Western Imperialism and the simplistic solutions applied by those colonial powers to perpetuate their dominations. Thats why we find artificial nations like Israel , Pakistan, Kuwait never losing any oppurtunity to act as a puppet of imperialist powers. Solution to many of these conflicts is destruction of these artificial nations just like artificial nations of French Algeria, North Rhodesia got destroyed.



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#9 Posted by tulukka_koothi on June 4, 2002 7:12:42 pm
By the way - if we are to settle all real estate disputes based on your logic which dervies considerable proof from religious documents, how about sending part of Turkey back to Central Asia, how about sending Elamites back to Iran, how about sending all Muslims from the sub-continent with foreign origins back to their region of origin, how about giving Maoris their land back.

WHo knows - Philasteens also must have displaced some other group - how about finding that group.



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#8 Posted by zia_ahmed on June 4, 2002 7:12:42 pm
Ridiculous! I wouldn`t have expected the use of quranic/bibilical babble as a formal argument, not on Chowk. Shame on the editors.

It is rather revealing that the Holocaust is not an event worthy of mention in your ``history``.

Your conclusions are not derived from the rest of the article. The whole thing smells of rabid anti-Semitism. The ``historical`` account is littered with inaccuracies; consider the gem below.

``There were 25,000 Jews in Palestine at the end of the Second World War when Arthur Balfour wrote to Lord Rothschild about creation of a Jewish state``

Sadly, Balfour died in 1930.



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#7 Posted by premkranti on June 4, 2002 7:12:42 pm
The story of Abraham, Sarah, Ishmael, Isaac are all mythological stories. There is no historical evidence to corroborate the existence of these people. In fact, the Old Testaments stories can be extended to even put a date on earth`s creation- around 4200 BC! You know how true it is! Start treating them as mythological stories, and the whole conflict is ridden of these mythical garbage. Issues can be settled more easily then, and then with a rational mind.



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#6 Posted by Studebaker on June 4, 2002 7:12:42 pm
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