Of Errant Politicians And The Kashmir Cause

MUSHARRAF:

- The man is fundamentally a cheat and a dishonest liar. He had no justification for overthrowing an elected government - an overthrow he planned well in advance. He had justification for trashing the constitution of Pakistan and he had no grounds for perperating the Kargil adventure and then not accepting responsibility. He cannot justify turning Pakistan into a Romananian style police state. His so called reforms are crude attempts to prolong his stay in power and to maintain a junta and secret police in an age where juntas are considered out of style and out of fashion. Real reform will start when the defense expenditure will be diverted to more productive avenues like education, health and public and private infrastructure.

Layman wrote:

``Nasah, in Musharraf`s defence, no one has accused him of being personally corrupt, which BB and Nawaz Sharif certainly were. ``

They say former President Ghulam Ishaq Khan was also not corrupt. Reports indicate that the beaurocrat turned presidnet didnt even try to have the public funds sanctioned for the development of his area.

The point is that it doesnt` matter AT ALL if Musharaf isn`t corrupt financially. He`s running the whole structure in an extremely corrupt manner.

Gen Zia wasn`t personally corrupt. Yet through corrupt means like Musharaf is employing, Zia did everything to divide the country in an attempt to manipulate the power structure in his favor.

I find Zia and Musharaf to be very very similar. They are like twins who have some ideological differences. but their respective ideologies are the `right stuff at the right time`. zia with his islamism of the eighties sanctioned by the west after post-russian invasion of afghanistan and mush with his liberalism especially required by west after sept 11.

whatever else your reason for defending Mush maybe, his corrupt method is NOT the way to get rid of BB or NS.

As Nasah and AI have pointed out, there is no well meaning reform or revolution underway in pakistan. it`s only a realignment of the power structure with the most powerful parasite demanding more of the host to devour.

Some people opine that the only thing that can save musharaf and the faujis from their follies is a massively favorable trade package from america. for that one would suppose the defences of the nation would probably have to be `handed over` to them.

If the sell out is completed in that manner, then all these current amedments and other shabby attempts at reform can be forgotten (rather than opposed).

But as we all know, the extremely demented view of the world of the fauji will not accept that. `Our honor and dignity` and pride comes in the way.

It truly is amazing. the same honor and dignity and pride is absent when 150 billion ruppees (plus 26 billion for pensions of Faujis) is spent on defence while millions cannot have access to basic health care. when the people have to travel hundreds of miles away to financially strapped public hospitals already over flowing with thousands of others in unhygenic conditions.

pride, honor and dignity - in countries and nations struck with poverty, these three characteristics are found with great abundance and defended with great vigour in the most superficial and fascist elements of society.

Pakistan Fauj is the prime fascist institution.

A good quote on the disgusting concepts of honor, pride and dignity that Pak Faujis and fauji lovers thump their chests to when explaining their reasons for hijacking the country and forming it`s policies.

``In an interview some time ago with the National Geographic magazine on the subject of women’s oppression in the context of “honour killings”, General Pervez Musharraf was asked by the foreign interviewer why nothing had been done to alleviate the plight of women in Pakistan. Pat came the answer: “We don’t have the money for alleviating poverty and eradicating illiteracy and backwardness”. “But you have the money for nuclear weapons and missiles”, retorted the devious foreigner. “Yes”, said the simple soldier, “we need nuclear weapons and conventional weapons and missiles in order to live honourably”. Should General Musharraf ever get round to watching that anguished documentary, he might look out for the gleam in the interviewer’s eye. It indicts the country and convicts its leader. ``

-The Friday Times (Editorial, July 12, 2002)

Deodrant,

please, quit with the `gora ka chamcha` argument. the only one who is playing the second, third, fourth and fifth fiddle to the west are the Armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. and it`s that fiddle of an army with it`s dime-a-dozen generals like Musharaf you seemed to defending in your last post.

we can make our own assessments. all you need is a little effort. that`s it. i suggest you visit a public hospital. any public hospital in pakistan.

then you can take a look at the annual budgets for defence and compare it to the budgets for health and education.

anyway, right now let me just keep it simple because my whole basis is simple.

i would be the first to defend the honor and dignity and pride of Pakistan, if that 150 billion rupees went toward education and health.

right now, when i hear a fauji like Musharaf and his spoons and supporters talking about honor and dignity and pride, all I hear is a parasite defending it`s right to kill the host!

The slippery slope

By Irafab Husain

(excerpts)

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By personalizing his differences with Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif to the extent that he has, Musharraf has virtually thrown away his political options.

The fact is that if he wants the forthcoming elections as well as the structure they produce to have any credibility at all, he cannot get away from the reality, unpleasant though it might be to him, that Pakistan has a two-party system, and any transparent and clean election is bound to return one or the other of them to power.

Like a character in a cartoon, Musharaf keeps stubbing his toe against this rock time after time. Instead of accepting reality and trying to cut a deal with one or the other of his political adversaries, he has united them through his determination to keep them both out.

Many times in his political pronouncements, Musharraf has referred to military strategy, forgetting the first lesson that a general should not open too many fronts simultaneously.

It takes political genius of a high order to bring sworn enemies like Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto together, and this is exactly what this government has achieved.

By trying to eliminate both of them through his ruling that neither can rule again by virtue of having served two terms, Musharraf has left them with no option but to unite against him. It goes without saying that there is no limit to how long he can rule himself.

Indeed, the longevity of our military dictators is an object of envy among our political classes, but then they do not command a political force (party) as powerful as the army.

These self-created difficulties assume even greater magnitude when viewed against the backdrop of the situation in Afghanistan and Kashmir, and the fallout in Pakistan. This is clearly no time to play ducks and drakes with whatever remains of our political system.......

So how can Musharraf escape from the corner into which he has painted himself? Clearly, the way forward is to open a dialogue with Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto.......(Dawn)

``A second package of proposed Constitutional amendment packages, unfolded by the government for a public debate, recommended that the President will appoint the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee,

Chief of Army Staff, Vice Chief of Army Staff, Chief of Air Staff,

Vice Chief of Air Staff,

Chief of Naval Staff,

Vice Chief of Naval Staff,

Chief Election Commissioner,

Auditor General of Pakistan,

Chairman Federal Public Services Commission, Supreme Judicial Council,

and Chairman National Accountability Bureau.``(Nation)

AND -- the President will appoint the NEXT President of Pakistan -- called Musharraf -- who will appoint the NEXT President Pakistan -- called Mushrraf -- who will appoint the NEXT President -- called Musharraf -- who will appoint the next President ALSO called Musharraf -- and Pakistan will live happily everafter under MUSHOCRACY.

Tum slaamat raho hazasr baras/har baras ke hoN din pachaas hazaar .... calculator please.

There is a rumor that the third package of the constitutional amendments will decide how the President of the country would be elected -- President Musharraf, a `real` democrat, has expressed his distaste for being reappointed by HIMSELF.

that goes something like this -- the next President of the country will be allowed to renominate himself and then democratically ELECTED by the Army Party -- (since General Public referendum was such a democratic mess)-- only three star Generals would qualify to vote.

no BA degree will be required of the Candidate for the President -- but to become the President he MUST be a COASS -- AT LEAST.