Of Evil Zionists and the Great Satan

Ref 12-head-but-still-anencephalic #: 244

[What do you think Shatru Sinha is .]

Look above for the answer.

[So what you r saying that YLH,Hamidm,Saminashah ,TAhmed,are all HINDUS forced to keep Muslim names ?????]

YLH, a direct descendant of the Prophet Himself, and a Hamdani from Iran to boot, is a Hindu? What kind of calumny is that?

Ref Ashole #: 243, 242

Yaaaawn!

Shammi

The error of the method you employ, is common. You assume that since there are a great many choices, all choices must be the same.

You complain that I did not raise my voice on behalf of pandits, from which you determine that raising my voice of behalf of any other suggests that I lack objectivity. A more idiotic sense of logic, I hop e not to encounter. ``I like white`` does not mean I don`t like blue - nor does it put the burden of me, of liking the blue, nor is it a condition of liking white, to assert that one likes blue or not.

I yet you can tell the caste of persons by their name. Come clean, now, you know you can. I know you can.

ITS LIKE SAYING TO A PASSER BY ``you abused me``

The passer by said ``no i just whispered ``salam``

Yea but i dont understand your language & i order you to ``REMOVE YOUR HATE LINGO``

SINCE WHEN A NON GOVT. ORGANIZATION NOT AN ELECTED REP. OF INDIANS ,HAVE THIS AUTHORITY, AUDACITY TO ORDER CHANGE ...Just like that ?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_25040,0008.htm



VHP to Muslims: join in to remove hate lingo from texts

July 22



Sparking off yet another controversy, the VHP on Monday asked Muslims to join hands to remove from the religious texts of both communities ``portions which preach hatred against one another``.



``There can be permanent peace between Hindus and Muslims only if the religious texts are put together and portions which preach hatred are removed,`` VHP senior vice-president Acharya Giriraj Kishore told reporters here.



Kishore said he had made the suggestion during the recent meeting between the two communities held here under the aegis of the National Commission for Minorities.



The VHP leader said no amount of Sadbhavana Yatras or Sadbhavana Ke Sipahi (the Congress party`s soldiers of goodwill) or inter-faith meetings can bring about any change in Hindu-Muslim ties till ``the root cause (religious texts) is taken care of``.



RSS chief K S Sudarshan had earlier sparked off a controversy asking Muslims to reinterpret their religious texts and win the confidence of the majority community to ensure their safety.



The VHP had earlier demanded that Muslims re-interpret terms such as jihad (holy war), kafir (infidels) and Kufr (the philosophy behind the term Kafir).



The Sangh Parivar had also asked both Muslims and Christians to ``Indianise`` their faith.



Kishore wondered why the Muslims were particular about observing Shariat in civil matters and not in criminal law.



``They should decide whether they want to follow the Shariat or the law of the land,`` he said.

Dost Mittar #245

Life has been treating me good so far.

But I am in chowk now.

UmerM,

{{As with Harimau, despite the good knowledge that he possesses, the man has a hot poker up his a$$ all the time and he tends to hop, skip and jump to conclusions.}}

haha you are 90% right about him...i vehemently disagree with the part you say :

````despite the good knowledge that he possesses````

its not GOOD knowlege...its selective propaganda of hate & mistrust that RSS types like him highlight, as if `Islam` or `muslims` was the main cause for the downfall of hindus & the hindu civilisation...He`s true blue blooded RSS--make no mistakes about it...even if he pretends he`s not or he`s fair & balanced (hah)...

its the ``hindus are victims`` mentality that shoves a hot poker up his butt all the time...the worst part is that he feels he`s JUSTIFIED to have that poker up his butt!!:)

Truth be told, the hindu civilisation (like every civilisation that is on the downswing) was beset by very shameful social problems..:unequality, caste system etc etc & terrible social practices that turned a lot of people off from that religion.

Even if ``forced`` conversions take place...please give some credit to the person who is ``converted`` by the point of a sword...its like forcing Communism on someone..it wont take hold if that person hates Communism..

Evidently, right, wrong or indifferent (depending upon the person`s point of view).. Islam took FIRM hold in India..it WOULD``NT have..if it didnt appeal to the ``forced convertees``!

so hairmou,

ordinarily you are such an obnoxious, disagreeable a$$hole, that i dont even waste my breath on a creature like you, anymore...but since i`m, right now, in a mood to waste my breath on you...let me RESPECTFULLY remind you what i`ve said to you again & again, in the past...but somehow that message doesnt seem to penetrate through your oily skull...

the MORE a guy like you detests me, the PROUDER I feel that i`m on the RIGHT track in my life`s philosophy. The day I really will get hurt & drop DEAD with shame, is the day you actually compliment me!

So...thankyou & keep up the good work...either do me a HUGE favor & scram from Chowk....or..if you choose to stay (which, ofcourse, is your perogative); please do continue with your insults ESP to me!......I assure you, it MAKES my day...the sun shines brighter & the birds sing more sweetly when you do!...

Dear Roohi #251,

Thank you. That was lovely.

Umer M

scout,

peace:)

Umer Murtaza #246
Fair enough.

re: spout

{next time, when u`re not talking to me, please refrain from talking about me..i know you`re a bit obsessed but keep ur comments to urself....thanks }

...i`ll talk ABOUT whomever i want...last i checked, your gestapo were not controlling chowk...and you do have a functional scroll button...

harimau #234 I dont discuss things with a hindutva rat. I am content to call him a rat, and he can call me swine in return. No problem.

Umer,

I did not mean to knock the Buddhism of Buddha in my earlier comment. Merely to say it was hard to follow - for individuals and societies in it`s original form at that point in history.

If you like buddhism and consider it part of your heritage like I do, here is a saying of The Buddha (aka the Buddhas ``Charter for free enquiry`` from the Kalama Sutta) to ponder -

``Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing, nor upon tradition, nor upon rumor, nor upon scripture, nor upon surmise, nor upon axiom, nor upon specious reasoning, nor upon bias towards a notion pondered over, nor upon another`s seeming ability, nor upon the consideration `The monk is our teacher.` When you yourselves know: `These things are bad, blamable, censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,` abandon them. When you yourselves know: `These things are good, blameless, praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,` enter on and abide in them.``

Peace

Umer M

I am deeply touched by the sufferings of your ancestors at the hands of the vile caste Hindus.

Man take my word , they are Kam Zat and they always behaved like that.

And that makes it from the frying pan into the fire for your presumed benighted ancestors.

I have always heard people claim that their ancestors were Brahmins or Rajpoots ot Jatts but no one has the candor that you have displayed.

I am glad that you realise the debt you owe the intersessors who interjected some wild oats.

Now to put facts right.

Firstly since you have pointed out that your ancestors were of low caste - I would assume that they must be of Dravidian extraction - what does that make you - Abdul?

Enough of that BS later.

Regd. Nalanda and Taxila , I think the Kam Zat Hindus conspired to destroy them so that the fair name of your intercessors was tarnished.

By the way lemme point this out. It did not require the sexual profligacy of holy men and warriors to emancipate lower castes in many parts of India. That awareness and awakening came out of Indians from the lower as well as upper strata and many are reaping the benefits of that.

India saw a President from the lowest caste . Can you see a Gujar or a Meghwal albeit a Muslim becoming part of the elected Govt leaders anytime soon in Pak zar zamin.

Abdul - MT could stand for Mohd. Tahir or Mathai Thomman or Manouch Tata.

Re: Hobbyty

``...Since the first thing you notice is the religion of writers (an entirely secular affliction) blah blah Indian Hindu interactors blah blah...``

Ummm...actually no. The first thing that I notice is the objectivity of Chowk interactors -- that is the ability to call a spade a spade. Your selective culling of the facts laid bare your objectivity (or lack thereof).

POWER OF 3 PERCENT,

In pakistan only 30 percent of the eligible people vote. The religious extremists do not believe in voting and that is 70 percent. Still the ilks of romair believe that there are only 3 percent extremists. Here is a proof, the following letter to the editor is talking about legislating against honour killing. Today it is legal in pakistan. During the rule of democratically elected Nawaz Sherif, when a young girl was killed in the office of Asma jahangir, the elected representatives of pakistan by a 75 percent majority refused to condemn honour killing. That is the power of the silent 70 percent, not the voice of the 3 percent.

A country where honour killing is legal is adisgrace to mankind. That is pakistan, the land of the homo erctus pakistanicus.

Eradicating Karo-kari

Every month a large number of innocent girls fall prey to the custom of Karo-kari (the so-called honour killing). This menace must be eradicated. The first step would be to create awareness among the people that is an un-Islamic act.

A law should be enacted to severely punish the culprits. The NGOs should also take up the issue in earnest to save hundreds of innocent lives.

ABDUL RAHMAN MALIK

Kandhkot, Jacobabad

Dear Sadna #235,

Please read my post to Sarwari in regards to her article, `what it means to be me in corporate America,` and you should sorta get the reasons as to why I replied in such manner.

For example, I spoke about the Pakistani youth blockading certain areas in Bradford and not allowing white people in. Everyone, including I, were extremely pi$$ed off at this gesture. It wasn`t made clear though that this action was retaliatory as opposed to offensive and that the BNP lads had been doing those things for some time. Changes the whole perspective doesn`t it?

Similarly, some person will read my post (and again I apologise if I`ve offended the silent parties. I`m not taking digs at anyone) and build up the usual Paki-Muslim-fundo image, not realising that it`s in retaliation to someone else. You`re right. It`s petty and cheap to talk of conversions etc. when the talk was about universities. However, it was in retaliation to another person, namely MT, trying to all come up big on me. So I just had to $lap the guy in place. And if his ego rules him, he will reply to this post. Believe it or not, I don`t like offending people, even on an anonymous board, so understand that I wasn`t trying to mock anything or anyone.

As with Harimau, despite the good knowledge that he possesses, the man has a hot poker up his a$$ all the time and he tends to hop, skip and jump to conclusions. Maybe I`m making a moutain out of a molehill but all of this started with him making the assertion that Islam - the religion - was responsible for the destruction and killing. I replied back; others jumped on the bandwagon; there you go.

As for Nalanda, taxila etc. I`ve always said it, there`s no shame in learning and questioning your beliefs. I`ll read up and provided it`s not just another `dontcha know that we actually landed on the moon first` sorta stuff, you`ll probably `hear` me correcting some other guy when he say that universities, hospitals etc. were made by the Muslims or whomever else…

Best wishes

Umer M.