Asad Zaidi July 3, 2002
#206 Posted by fawad79 on July 20, 2002 6:50:44 pm
so rsax are you up for some bar hopping or what the offer still stands and for you too askah ?
where do u know about sandanavian chicks?
i have a story.......i was on the train studying for a medicinal chemistry exam i had a while ago. I was goin through my drug cards and this spanish chick plopped next to me and asked me which train it was that was going to nb i told her. Next she goes what are you studying blah blah and then finnally goes , so ur columbian right ...im like no.....puerto rican ......no..... dominican......no finally what r u ????/ im pakistani......
disappointed oh ......well ill see ya later
9-11 ruined my whole game !!!!!!!!
where do u know about sandanavian chicks?
i have a story.......i was on the train studying for a medicinal chemistry exam i had a while ago. I was goin through my drug cards and this spanish chick plopped next to me and asked me which train it was that was going to nb i told her. Next she goes what are you studying blah blah and then finnally goes , so ur columbian right ...im like no.....puerto rican ......no..... dominican......no finally what r u ????/ im pakistani......
disappointed oh ......well ill see ya later
9-11 ruined my whole game !!!!!!!!
#205 Posted by shammi on July 20, 2002 6:50:44 pm
Re: Hobbyty #204
Perhaps the irony of that post escaped you. The author of your elegant cut and paste is a Kashmiri pandit (How do I know? last name gives it away). Now, when was the last time I saw you do a similar cut and paste by a pandit about their ethnic cleansing from the Valley? I don`t remember. I do, however, remember your numerous posts in defence of the unelected APHC that have maintained a stony silence on the subject of ethnic cleansing of pandits.
Perhaps the irony of that post escaped you. The author of your elegant cut and paste is a Kashmiri pandit (How do I know? last name gives it away). Now, when was the last time I saw you do a similar cut and paste by a pandit about their ethnic cleansing from the Valley? I don`t remember. I do, however, remember your numerous posts in defence of the unelected APHC that have maintained a stony silence on the subject of ethnic cleansing of pandits.
#204 Posted by rsaxena on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
re: fawad
...don`t worry about scout`s rudeness...most chowkies know she`s little kookoo in the head...
...as for german chicks, well, first of all they aren`t really scandinavian...and they vary from one region to the next...overall they can be a bit brutish (maybe u like that), esp. bavarian ones...
...don`t worry about scout`s rudeness...most chowkies know she`s little kookoo in the head...
...as for german chicks, well, first of all they aren`t really scandinavian...and they vary from one region to the next...overall they can be a bit brutish (maybe u like that), esp. bavarian ones...
#203 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref Mullah321 #: 186
[I think you should relax and enjoy the beautiful tune of the Pakistani national anthem and the enchanting farsi phrases that go with it.]
That is good advice.
[Tomorrow you can do the same with the Indian national anthem without fear of losing your Pakistani patriotism.]
Er... you are likely to get apoplexy listening to the Indian national anthem. It goes:
``Punjab Sindh Gujarat Mahratta
Dravida Utkal Banga``
without making any distinction as to East and West Punjabs or West Bengal and Bangladesh and includes Sindh as part of India.
All part of Advani`s designs on Pakistan.
[I think you should relax and enjoy the beautiful tune of the Pakistani national anthem and the enchanting farsi phrases that go with it.]
That is good advice.
[Tomorrow you can do the same with the Indian national anthem without fear of losing your Pakistani patriotism.]
Er... you are likely to get apoplexy listening to the Indian national anthem. It goes:
``Punjab Sindh Gujarat Mahratta
Dravida Utkal Banga``
without making any distinction as to East and West Punjabs or West Bengal and Bangladesh and includes Sindh as part of India.
All part of Advani`s designs on Pakistan.
#202 Posted by stuka on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Romair:
``What about the name Amitabh....Does that ring a bell of some sort.....``
Killer man Killer.....I have seen Shankar take your trip for a few months...u just paid him back ..with interest!!!
``What about the name Amitabh....Does that ring a bell of some sort.....``
Killer man Killer.....I have seen Shankar take your trip for a few months...u just paid him back ..with interest!!!
#201 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref 12-heads-with-not-an-ounce-of-brain-in-any-of-them #: 175
[She is Parsi ,may be news to you that Pakistani Minorities are happier than Ahmedabad KInd!]
At least in India, minorities do not have to call themselves by Hindu names like Hindus seem to call themselves by Muslim names in Pakistan.
[READ ABOUT ZORASTRIANS IN IRAN HERE
http://www.iranica.com/
AND NOT YOUR PROPOGANDA ABOUT THERE RELATIONSHIP WITH MUSLIMS]
As my Iranian Zorastrian friend said to me, the Indian Zorastrians are more observant than their Iranian counterparts. That is because hordes of Hindus don`t descend on them and accuse them of blasphemy or put the sword to their necks.
Also, Iranian Zorastrians who marry Muslims have to raise their children as Muslims; something Binifer is going to find out shortly even in Pakistan.
So shut up and than India for your medical education.
[She is Parsi ,may be news to you that Pakistani Minorities are happier than Ahmedabad KInd!]
At least in India, minorities do not have to call themselves by Hindu names like Hindus seem to call themselves by Muslim names in Pakistan.
[READ ABOUT ZORASTRIANS IN IRAN HERE
http://www.iranica.com/
AND NOT YOUR PROPOGANDA ABOUT THERE RELATIONSHIP WITH MUSLIMS]
As my Iranian Zorastrian friend said to me, the Indian Zorastrians are more observant than their Iranian counterparts. That is because hordes of Hindus don`t descend on them and accuse them of blasphemy or put the sword to their necks.
Also, Iranian Zorastrians who marry Muslims have to raise their children as Muslims; something Binifer is going to find out shortly even in Pakistan.
So shut up and than India for your medical education.
#200 Posted by shammi on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Re: Romair
``...They don`t make noise, they don`t write articles, they are not critics, they are not activists...``
That nearly brought tears to my eyes, EXCEPT when I realized that the unlucky ones who never got a chance to offer shahadat, and live life like the rest of us petty mortals, produce that one-in-a-million `leader` who like nothing better than to appropriate power through any means necessary, all in the name of the shaheeds.
``...They don`t make noise, they don`t write articles, they are not critics, they are not activists...``
That nearly brought tears to my eyes, EXCEPT when I realized that the unlucky ones who never got a chance to offer shahadat, and live life like the rest of us petty mortals, produce that one-in-a-million `leader` who like nothing better than to appropriate power through any means necessary, all in the name of the shaheeds.
#199 Posted by hobbyty on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Fawad
Yet another example of cutting off one`s own nose to spite an enemy - unimaginable that the US could allow this to be done to it:
``ARABS IN U.S. COULD BE HELD, OFFICIAL WARNS
Rights unit member foresees detainment
BY NIRAJ WARIKOO, Detroit Free Press, 7/20/02
http://www.freep.com/news/metro/civil20_20020720.htm
A member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission said in Detroit on Friday he could foresee a scenario in which the public would demand internment camps
for Arab-Americans if Arab terrorists strike again in this country.
If there`s a future terrorist attack in America ``and they come from the same ethnic group that attacked the World Trade Center, you can forget about civil rights,`` commission member Peter Kirsanow said.
The reason, he said, is that ``the public would be less concerned about any perceived erosion of civil liberties than they are about protecting their own lives.``
Kirsanow, who was appointed to the commission last year by President George W. Bush, said after the session that he personally doesn`t support such camps and the government would never envision them. He said he was merely saying public opinion would so strongly favor the idea that it would be difficult to prevent. There would be a ``groundswell of opinion`` for the
detainment, he said.
The remarks came during a raucous commission hearing in Detroit in which Kirsanow and another conservative member, Jennifer Braceras, defended U.S. antiterrorism efforts after Sept. 11.
A White House spokesman said Friday night that he could not respond specifically to Kirsanow`s comments without seeing a full transcript of
them, but said that the possibility of Arab internment camps has never been discussed at the White House…
The seven-member commission, based in Washington, D.C., was at the Omni Hotel in Detroit for its monthly meeting, and heard testimony from
Arab-American leaders who said the government abused civil rights following Sept. 11…
Kirsanow was unmoved, arguing that Arab and Muslim Americans should accept the country`s new antiterrorism laws and complain less about infringements to their civil rights.
If there`s another attack by Arabs on U.S. soil, ``not too many people will be crying in their beer if there are more detentions, more stops, more profiling,`` Kirsanow said.
``There will be a groundswell of public opinion to banish civil rights. So the best thing we can do to preserve them is by keeping the country safe…"
Braceras, another Bush appointee, said: ``There`s no constitutional right not to be inconvenienced or even embarrassed…"
Yet another example of cutting off one`s own nose to spite an enemy - unimaginable that the US could allow this to be done to it:
``ARABS IN U.S. COULD BE HELD, OFFICIAL WARNS
Rights unit member foresees detainment
BY NIRAJ WARIKOO, Detroit Free Press, 7/20/02
http://www.freep.com/news/metro/civil20_20020720.htm
A member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission said in Detroit on Friday he could foresee a scenario in which the public would demand internment camps
for Arab-Americans if Arab terrorists strike again in this country.
If there`s a future terrorist attack in America ``and they come from the same ethnic group that attacked the World Trade Center, you can forget about civil rights,`` commission member Peter Kirsanow said.
The reason, he said, is that ``the public would be less concerned about any perceived erosion of civil liberties than they are about protecting their own lives.``
Kirsanow, who was appointed to the commission last year by President George W. Bush, said after the session that he personally doesn`t support such camps and the government would never envision them. He said he was merely saying public opinion would so strongly favor the idea that it would be difficult to prevent. There would be a ``groundswell of opinion`` for the
detainment, he said.
The remarks came during a raucous commission hearing in Detroit in which Kirsanow and another conservative member, Jennifer Braceras, defended U.S. antiterrorism efforts after Sept. 11.
A White House spokesman said Friday night that he could not respond specifically to Kirsanow`s comments without seeing a full transcript of
them, but said that the possibility of Arab internment camps has never been discussed at the White House…
The seven-member commission, based in Washington, D.C., was at the Omni Hotel in Detroit for its monthly meeting, and heard testimony from
Arab-American leaders who said the government abused civil rights following Sept. 11…
Kirsanow was unmoved, arguing that Arab and Muslim Americans should accept the country`s new antiterrorism laws and complain less about infringements to their civil rights.
If there`s another attack by Arabs on U.S. soil, ``not too many people will be crying in their beer if there are more detentions, more stops, more profiling,`` Kirsanow said.
``There will be a groundswell of public opinion to banish civil rights. So the best thing we can do to preserve them is by keeping the country safe…"
Braceras, another Bush appointee, said: ``There`s no constitutional right not to be inconvenienced or even embarrassed…"
#198 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref Romair #: 75
[The peasants that live on these lands are victims of the biggest caste system in South Asia. Unlike in India, where the Dalits, as a whole, do have political power, these peasants have nothing. There is no way they can vote against their local feudal. One cannot imagine a UP type election result, with peasants winning, occuring in Bhutto`s Larkana or Khar`s Muzaffargarh, etc. These feudals form 62% of the National Assembly, and are at the head of any movement for restoring, ``Democracy.`` They can thus hide their actions under the fake umbrella of elections (which they always win).]
Ahem... and I believe the raison d`etre of Pakistan is that its citizens could have an equitable share in its governance.
Oops, Pakistan was created because Hindus and Muslims cannot live together.
My mistake.
I apologize.
[The peasants that live on these lands are victims of the biggest caste system in South Asia. Unlike in India, where the Dalits, as a whole, do have political power, these peasants have nothing. There is no way they can vote against their local feudal. One cannot imagine a UP type election result, with peasants winning, occuring in Bhutto`s Larkana or Khar`s Muzaffargarh, etc. These feudals form 62% of the National Assembly, and are at the head of any movement for restoring, ``Democracy.`` They can thus hide their actions under the fake umbrella of elections (which they always win).]
Ahem... and I believe the raison d`etre of Pakistan is that its citizens could have an equitable share in its governance.
Oops, Pakistan was created because Hindus and Muslims cannot live together.
My mistake.
I apologize.
#197 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref headshrinker #: 55
[the ONLY reason I wont appear in a thong is cos I dont want to arouse any passions in that homo saxena:) ]
Please do. The women of Chowk need a good laugh.
[the ONLY reason I wont appear in a thong is cos I dont want to arouse any passions in that homo saxena:) ]
Please do. The women of Chowk need a good laugh.
#196 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref Anika Zaidi #: 41
[..FOR aRJUN ,AKASH,HARIMOU ,UNKAL JAY,RDESIKAN ,& OTHER WELL WISHERS OF PAKISTAN
The monkey and secularism
Dr A.H. Khayal
............
In India overwhelming majority of the population consists of fanatical Hindus and its rulers have also been fundamentalist Hindus. The Indian prime minister is the all powerful chief executive of the country. No wonder, every prime minister has always been a staunch Hindu. Calling India a secular state is like calling the Vatican a secular state. The Indian president is a political eunuch. Naturally, the fanatical Hindus do not mind having a non-Hindu as a president to make a fool of the world.]
Most certainly we don`t mind a non-Hindu as president, particularly when the Muslim in question happens to be the person who was behind India`s missile program for the last 20 years.
Try electing an Ahmadiyya to the post of dog-catcher in Lahore before you talk.
[..FOR aRJUN ,AKASH,HARIMOU ,UNKAL JAY,RDESIKAN ,& OTHER WELL WISHERS OF PAKISTAN
The monkey and secularism
Dr A.H. Khayal
............
In India overwhelming majority of the population consists of fanatical Hindus and its rulers have also been fundamentalist Hindus. The Indian prime minister is the all powerful chief executive of the country. No wonder, every prime minister has always been a staunch Hindu. Calling India a secular state is like calling the Vatican a secular state. The Indian president is a political eunuch. Naturally, the fanatical Hindus do not mind having a non-Hindu as a president to make a fool of the world.]
Most certainly we don`t mind a non-Hindu as president, particularly when the Muslim in question happens to be the person who was behind India`s missile program for the last 20 years.
Try electing an Ahmadiyya to the post of dog-catcher in Lahore before you talk.
#195 Posted by anNy on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ferishteh
Now that we`ve established youre a girl, what a pretty name to have! I have been to the Caspian Sea, a resort called Raamsir, though I`m afraid I havent had any world famous Caspian caviar. I lived on the most awesome chillo kebabs and bastani there.
Farishteh, if you go to Qom, be real careful. The water there is worse than stagnant sea water,with all due respect.Should you leave a little in a utensil (I experimented) it will have a light layer of salt on the sides in a few hours.Whatever you do, dont shower in Qom. If you do, use only mineral water. If somebody makes wisecracks, tell them to shuttup. You DONT want lice in your hair and you definetly dont want a salt coated, itching sensation all over your body in that godawful heat. Check out the bazaaar by the haram if you go. It has beautiful pottery that comes from Isfahaan. Will you go soon? I may go in September for a few weeks, the weather is lovely around then.
later :)
anNy
Now that we`ve established youre a girl, what a pretty name to have! I have been to the Caspian Sea, a resort called Raamsir, though I`m afraid I havent had any world famous Caspian caviar. I lived on the most awesome chillo kebabs and bastani there.
Farishteh, if you go to Qom, be real careful. The water there is worse than stagnant sea water,with all due respect.Should you leave a little in a utensil (I experimented) it will have a light layer of salt on the sides in a few hours.Whatever you do, dont shower in Qom. If you do, use only mineral water. If somebody makes wisecracks, tell them to shuttup. You DONT want lice in your hair and you definetly dont want a salt coated, itching sensation all over your body in that godawful heat. Check out the bazaaar by the haram if you go. It has beautiful pottery that comes from Isfahaan. Will you go soon? I may go in September for a few weeks, the weather is lovely around then.
later :)
anNy
#194 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref nasah #: 18
[Neither the evil Zionists, nor the US Satan, nor the Hindutva Hindus, nor the Serb Christians, nor the Filipino Buddhists, nor the Chinese Communists -- are the ENEMIES of the Muslims.
The bitter FACT is that -- ONLY a few hundered thousands of -- ``good muslims`` -- are the WORST and REAL ENEMIES -- of ONE billion Ordinary Muslims -- ALL over the World.
They have let us down -- EVERYWHERE -- and we can`t do a thing about it -- except watch helplessly -- or BLAME others.]
Recently the Tamil Nadu government advertised for executive officers for Hindu temples. The advertisement restricted applicants to the male gender. When a case was filed against this, the government attempted to justify the restriction on the basis that under Hindu religious laws, women cannot enter the temples during their monthly periods. The court ordered that the posts be made available to all citizens regardless of gender.
I read that the Muslim Personal Law Board in India is seeking to file a case against the prescribed minimum age for marriage on the basis that Islam permits a girl to be married upon reaching puberty.
Just the way to close the gap between Muslims and Hindus!
[Neither the evil Zionists, nor the US Satan, nor the Hindutva Hindus, nor the Serb Christians, nor the Filipino Buddhists, nor the Chinese Communists -- are the ENEMIES of the Muslims.
The bitter FACT is that -- ONLY a few hundered thousands of -- ``good muslims`` -- are the WORST and REAL ENEMIES -- of ONE billion Ordinary Muslims -- ALL over the World.
They have let us down -- EVERYWHERE -- and we can`t do a thing about it -- except watch helplessly -- or BLAME others.]
Recently the Tamil Nadu government advertised for executive officers for Hindu temples. The advertisement restricted applicants to the male gender. When a case was filed against this, the government attempted to justify the restriction on the basis that under Hindu religious laws, women cannot enter the temples during their monthly periods. The court ordered that the posts be made available to all citizens regardless of gender.
I read that the Muslim Personal Law Board in India is seeking to file a case against the prescribed minimum age for marriage on the basis that Islam permits a girl to be married upon reaching puberty.
Just the way to close the gap between Muslims and Hindus!
#193 Posted by harimau on July 20, 2002 1:28:55 pm
Ref hobbyty #: 14
[Is it an unfair criticism when we are reminded that universities were an idea born in Islam, yet what learning have we to show for it?]
Universities were an idea born in Islam?
Though Taxila is now in Pakistan, that predates Pakistan by 2000+ years and Islam by 700+ years.
The Islamic contribution to the Buddhist center at Nalanda was burning down the place and killing the 2000 monks who were studying there.
[Is it an unfair criticism when we are reminded that universities were an idea born in Islam, yet what learning have we to show for it?]
Universities were an idea born in Islam?
Though Taxila is now in Pakistan, that predates Pakistan by 2000+ years and Islam by 700+ years.
The Islamic contribution to the Buddhist center at Nalanda was burning down the place and killing the 2000 monks who were studying there.
#192 Posted by hobbyty on July 20, 2002 2:38:22 am
Romair
Thank you for taking the time for that omplete and sensitive response. I think you know where I stand.
Thank you for taking the time for that omplete and sensitive response. I think you know where I stand.
#191 Posted by hobbyty on July 20, 2002 2:38:22 am
Fawad
look to history - Whenever a movement of conscience has been surpressed - a stage is set for it`s ultimate redemption and victory. Less people are showing up for two reasons, in my opinion:
1. FBI - not so secret police
2. Large numbers of Muslims are immigrants who neither know their rights nor have access to legal resources and the fear for themselves and their families.
Together, these two items serve as instruments of suppression, indeed a dark episode in the history of the US and that of Islam.
Brother man, witness the Glory of God, the flame of faith, of conscience, burns brighter as efforts to extinguish such a flame are at their rabid frenzy. Allah has not brought His creature this far to abandon his creature to the whims and fury of mere men.
look to history - Whenever a movement of conscience has been surpressed - a stage is set for it`s ultimate redemption and victory. Less people are showing up for two reasons, in my opinion:
1. FBI - not so secret police
2. Large numbers of Muslims are immigrants who neither know their rights nor have access to legal resources and the fear for themselves and their families.
Together, these two items serve as instruments of suppression, indeed a dark episode in the history of the US and that of Islam.
Brother man, witness the Glory of God, the flame of faith, of conscience, burns brighter as efforts to extinguish such a flame are at their rabid frenzy. Allah has not brought His creature this far to abandon his creature to the whims and fury of mere men.
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