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rax: ``...hmm...but that would include you...and me...``

I am not a citizen of any of those countries and do not limit myself to red linez on a map. Polytricks, infighting, divide and conquering and defining oneself based on nationalism is the work of the weak. The strong stand alone and are defined by WHO they are, not where they`re from.

Tahmed: Its not that ``clear and simple.`` The Quran never says ``last prophet`` anything. It only says ``seal of the prophets.`` Seal can mean many things. Further, the Quran never calls him the last messenger either. All of this is irrelevant if u know the rule: ``MESSAGE NOT THE MESSENGER.`` Mirza Ahmeds person/caste/status has NOTHING at all to do with the truth or falsehood of what he said. Words stand on their own merits and are true or false based on themselves, not their sayer. If he said something true, whats wrong with following it? Its about time we stopped binding ourselves to the rigid ways of the ancients.

``Will ever the day come when nature becomes the teacher of man, humanity his book and life his school?`` -Gibran.

ylh #166
I don`t know the specifics about the late Shri Krishan Kant, but he is not the youngest freedom fighter that I know of, personally. How old does one have to be to participate in noncooperation and get arrested? In India those who went to jail under the British are called freedom fighters and every district has/had them.

So when are you going to stop ranting against Indians and write about being in Pakistan?

ylh #163

Even though we are all used to your rants on this list, your message seems to attain a new high in this space.

What is your point? Do you seriously think there is any connection between the democratic nation of Israel (20% muslim with no religous or ``dhimmi``-style restriction on its minorities) and the thuggish republic of Pakistan?

Are you further suggesting that grenades can NOT be openly purchased in Peshawar? Or is the idea that as Sumit Ganguly has failed some kind of integrity test that only you can personally administer, everything he says must be untrue?

a perplexed chowki,

re: DRUMZ

{I am not a citizen of any of those countries and do not limit myself to red linez on a map.}

...since i lost my passport, i`ve been stateless too...luckily, unlike shankar i`ve been paying my taxes and can prove my identity...in any case, our genetic roots are in that gutter called south asia...i suppose those can be diluted in the future, but dude, we`re stuck...

Yasser, dear boy, whatever happened to you? Good to know that you haven`t traded in your Rutgers diploma for one from the local madrassah.

Guess what? I was reading the New Straits Times (this being the national newspaper of Malaysia) the other day and the front page news was that 120 women were arrested and fined between M$50 and M$100 for not wearing a scarf.

I remember distinctly you saying that you want Pakistan to become like Malaysia or Turkey.

How about becoming a turkey LIKE Malaysia?

You can take Islam out of Arabia but you can`t take the burqa out of Islam.

Ref anNy #: 159

[Secondly meri pyaari behen, Pakistan is a living breathing country where people sleep, eat, bake brownies, plant flowers, fall in love, have cute babies with curly hair, give exams, dance, scream at the babies, grow and cook bhindi, cry, read books and sometimes burn those brownies- nobody can change that...]

And murder the Queen`s English!

Give exams? GIVE exams? Hello! The only ones to GIVE exams are the teachers and the students TAKE exams.

I thought GIVING exams was limited to North Indians to whom every language (including Hindi) is a second language and so they have difficulty with English. It has since been picked up by all those Madras IIT graduates who think speaking broken English like North Indians is cute (it isn`t; it merely shows your ignorance).

PS. Meri pyaari behen, you can send me some of those brownies you bake... so long as they aren`t burnt!

;)

Welcome my friend YLH.

I came to know about your going back to Pakistan through this interacts.

May God succed you there. And there might be some good for you in this.

The interview of Aisha Sarwari with Christopher Lee is inciting me watch the film Jinnah.

Although I don`t agree with you on Gandhi. But his birth place is witnessing the worst form of communal violence. So far his legacy.

But I am in total agreement with you about Jinnah.

He single handedly with sheer will made possible the creation of Pakistan. There would be no Pakistan without Jinnah to put it simply.

TAhned#

Your statement on Sattar 2.

If he is not non-Muslim. He is Muslim.

There is no third option.

What is your minimum definition of Muslim.

Can I tell you that I am a prophet after prophet Muhammed PBUH.(Naoozobillah). Would you consider me a Muslim.

There are no two verdicts on this matter.

Once again for the `Feeble Minded` perplexed chowkies:

The man of integrity and honesty Sumit Ganguly said on NPR: `I TOOK THE PIN OUT OF THE GRENADE TO MAKE IT SAFE`

Ah poor P-Mishra...

I knew you were uneducated, but now I know you are a soft in the head as well ... anyone who has seen any `American War Movie` or any cheap Indian copy of an American War Movie knows that once you take the PIN out of the Grenade ... IT BLOWS UP.

Mr. Sumit Ganguly claimed that `I took the pin out to make it safe`... Think, or is it alien to Indians? If you still can`t understand how apparent Mr.Ganguly`s lie was... I can only pity you...

I am not going to respond to your `dhimmi` nonsense .. whereas Pakistan is not perfect, only an idiot from across the border would make such a claim... The Point my dear idiot was that people like you have spent so much time deconstructing the two nation theory... but you fail to realize that the Zionist Principle : The Bi-National principle = two state solution... is behind the creation of Israel... Infact as a well known Indian scholar wrote for the Tel Aviv University that the Zionists presented Pakistan as a precedent for the creation of Israel...

Now this is completely unconnected to what you think of Pakistan, because I am not talking about what Pakistan is or isn`t but your own obsession with debunking the already obselete two nation theory. Neither you nor your other unsophisticated friend Mr.Saxena can grasp such a simple point... oh I forgot.. you actually need an IQ to grasp something...



By the way you still haven`t answered the question: How has the author castigated Israel?

Or maybe this is keeping in a longline of baseless accusations that you level against other people (like the one against me earlier)

Rsaxena,

Do you really think any thing you think I said can even hold a candle to tremendously luminous stupidity that you and some of your countrymen (P-Mishra and Jay) possess???

Let me remind you of your (and Jay`s) own claim that Latitudes determine `Daylight savings time` and hence a Pakistan a geographically thin country can never have DST.... remember Bina`s article??

Or P-Mishra`s latest and most outrageous claim that there is nothing wrong with Mr.Ganguly`s integrity if he says : I TOOK THE PIN OUT OF THE GRENADE TO MAKE IT SAFE...

tsk tsk ...

Sadna,

I asked a simple question... you could have done with a simple answer... but I still find it amazing that the British put up statues of known dissidents and freedom fighters like the one true God `Mahatma` Gandhi in public squares... during the 1930s and 1940s, while the Mahatma was doing hard labor in his horrible jail at the Agha Khan palace.

In any event, why will you actually write more about Gujurat, then obsessing about Pakistan?

And about the late and great Dr.Kant... tell me something... are all `followers of Gandhi` big proponents of Nuclear weapons?

Dear ArjunM...

Good News! I just got 5 years multiple visit visas for the United states of America and United Kingdom... not bad for a `deported Paki` is it? Its amazing when I was in the US people like you kept claiming that I had no intention of returning to Pakistan... and when I finally did out of my own conviction, (and also because my F1 Visa was about to expire in October) I am `deported`... You Indians do wish a lot don`t you?

I appreciate your repeated concern for the release of the movie on DVD... owing to its controversial status it was delayed despite the fact that Block Buster had ordered it as early as 1999...

Please search Block Buster website:

http://www.blockbuster.com for `Jinnah`...

Try clicking on this link

http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++174178,00.html?

And you will find the details...

And this the 10th time you are repeating your questions, and the 10th time I am answering you...

Perhaps you will read it this time... I hope...

-YLH

ylh#

Yes I have seen that interview of Sumit Ganguly.

He seems to be a very Badbudar covered by perfume.

You can smell that Badbu even behind T.V. screen.

A bit of News: Gary Ackerman, a well known anti Pakistan congressmen and known for his extremely pro-India stance, recently told the US President that Pakistan is a Moderate country where no Islamic Parties have ever won elections.. and that its citizens want a modern democratic and progressive state... I believe his exact words were `Whoever says Musharraf`s replacement will be worse hasn`t read Pakistan`s History. No Islamic Party has ever won any elections in Pakistan. The Pakistani People want a Moderate democratic state`.

Maybe we bought him too? What say you oh great P-mishra...

Ladies and gentlemen,

Much mockery has been made of my comment about my father offering me a job... as a background let me explain to those non-cynical people who are actually interested in not making a mockery. My father`s business is the leasing of Vehicles (heavy and light)... to both privately and publicly owned firms...

My father`s business had suffered huge blows since the ill advised 1998 nuclear tests... So to supplement that he would have asked me to work in a multinational.. but he didn`t. The demand is unusually high which indicates high CONSUMER SPENDING... perhaps the IVY LEAGUERERS like Mr. Saxena and Arjunm can`t really discern that logic... but that is how Economics works.. Perhaps it would help to realize that consumer goods often become the base for Economic indicators... for example (and this is an example only) `INFLATION` index is set according to basket of daily goods like soap and ata etc...

If a `technical evaluation` is what Mr.Saxena and his likes want (though it is a known fact that technical evaluation is based on a Macro assessment of Micro factors like the one I MENTIONED, or do they not teach that in IVY LEAGUE schools) ... Pakistan`s Forex reserves are above 6 billion, the Dollar has steadied at 59/60 to the Rupee which means a consistent gain of ground for the Pakistan rupee... infact had it not been for the selling of dollars by the state bank (done to preserve the EXPORTS) The dollar would have gone to 55 ... which is a huge gain for the Pak-Rupee which was at 67 a year ago...

The annual growth rate was steady at 3.6 (as opposed to 3.3 forecasted) jumping up from the all time low of 2. something last year... Projected Growth rate is at 4.6... though it is not like our all time high which was close to 7, it shows a long term growth...

You can see this actually taking place on ground the way my father`s business is booming again.. but that sadly will be lost on those who suffer from iodine deficiency.

-YLH

saxena,

{{luckily, unlike shankar i`ve been paying my taxes and can prove my identity...}}

hey! its nice to know you give a recepit to your customers, everytime you sell a pretzel!

Dear Arjunm,

Has it occured to you why exactly you decided to attack me personally and lie about me, when I hadn`t said so much as a word against you... Has it occured you that why I, who returned to this board, after such an absence became a target of your misdirected wrath?

Is it really a crime to love one`s country, to be proud of it, and to call out people like Ganguly for what they are? Please tell me what else am I supposed to say about someone who claims to have taken `the pin out of the grenade to make it safe`? Won`t you call such a person a liar? and an obnoxious bigoted one at that ... for he is lying on the National Public Radio...

Please show me one instance where I have attacked someone simply for loving India? I always appreciated those who are patriotic to their country (which ever one) and really want to do well for it... It is amazing how I have managed to incur the wrath of you people just for my own beliefs and convictions... P-Mishra hates me because I don`t like Gandhi... You hate me because I admire Jinnah.. Rsaxena hates me because I am a Pakistani...

If `Divine-Comedy` wishes to put up a series of favorable comments about Jinnah from a website.. You object because `its some dude on a website`.. if someone quotes Wolpert, Hodson, RajMohan Gandhi, or Bernard Lewis on Jinnah... you say `so what... the common people don`t know about Jinnah`... so whats the standard? Why do you keep asking about the Movie... Haven`t I given you the Block buster website and Movie list atleast 10 times... ? Is it my fault that a certain group of thugs amongst Pakistanis decided to shelf the movie for their own reasons ? Coming to Divine Comedy (me) ... where in that post is there anything against India or Gandhi?

You people just attack for the sake of attacking.. what do you achieve? What deep rooted inferiority/superiority complex did calling me `Deported paki` fulfil? Had I not said since 1999 that I will leave the US once I am done with my studies? I didn`t fall out of status one day.. I was meticuluous in my legal requirement. My visa doesn`t expire till October... so if a bunch of illegal Pakistani aliens are deported from US does it mean everyone returning to his or her own country is a `deportee`...? Could it not be that some of us just came back because they wanted to be with their parents who are growing old? Or some of us sincerely thought that they could make a difference here in Pakistan?

You keep asking me if I read the article in the nation... so what can I do if Musharraf said this?

Are you going to hold me accountable for what Zia did in the 1980s? is it even your place? Besides Musharraf said a variety of different things to Variety of different magazines.. to Newsweek he said `i want to make a Modern secular state`... Does it mean Musharraf is a Hypocrite or a liar? Perhaps. Does it change my love for Pakistan? No.

You keep repeating the same old same old, about my father offering me a job etc etc... I have explained before and I have explained again in my previous post what I meant by it...

You are no exception. It seems that Indians have a problem with any Pakistani who wants his country to succeed or who can argue on facts. Take P-Mishra for instance... thinking he was Pankaj Mishra the famous writer, I treated him with the utmost respect... but then he showed me his ugly side... and for what ..Bipan Chandra, an indian writer, had called Jinnah one of the ten greatest Indians ... he had also said that Jinnah had organized the League after 1937 around an extreme ideology. But when I quoted him quite accurately as saying that Jinnah was one of the greatest Indians and gave the link with it, Mr.Mishra announced that I had somehow misled everyone... its amazing what a strawman fallacy can do...

Amazingly Mr.Mishra is such a master at this game, that when in response to his constant attacks on the Two Nation theory I point out that his favorite Israel was formed on the basis of `Bi-National principle: Two state solution`, he attacks Pakistan for not being perfect... and accuses me of trying to compare Pakistan with Israel... its amazing, because it is not I who is comparing Pakistan with Israel... it was the founding fathers of Israel who had presented the creation of Pakistan as a precedent in the UN in 1948.... My source of information is an Indian professor from Tel Aviv University. Please be aware... I have no desire to compare Pakistan with anything.. Pakistan is Pakistan...

As a matter of fact let me explicitly declare this the 100th time...

FOR THOSE WHO TAKE UMBRAGE OF COMPARISON BETWEEN LOWLY PAKISTAN AND THAT GREAT JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL... I WANT TO SET YOUR FEARS TO REST...

I for one have no Desire in comparing Pakistan to Israel... it was the founding fathers of Israel who had quoted the creation of Pakistan as a precedent for Israel.

Sincerely

Yasser Latif Hamdani