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The Right To Bigotry

Aakar Patel July 31, 2002

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#123 Posted by tahmed321 on August 9, 2002 2:15:30 pm
jay #117 you write ``I am a paki basher``.

Ha! Ha! I can imagine this skinny little man doing shadow boxing in his padded cell. While the keepers sadly shake their head and stick another needle in his rear.



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#122 Posted by ana on August 9, 2002 1:33:47 pm
For those of you in NYC and its environs (and anywhere else :))

Rehan Ansari..haan apne chowk ka Rehan, is teaching a class on Indian cinema, To find out more about it, visit the link indicated below

http://www.nsu.newschool.edu/fall02/comm5.htm#NFLM3441

And sign up, if it strikes your fancy :)

Thanks!



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#121 Posted by saminashah on August 9, 2002 12:34:08 pm
Fawad,

So now are you Fawad or Fawad79? Too mischievious, this nick doppelgangering...

Anyways, SIR, I am pro Pal, but not pro hammas/hezbollah/etc.. Decimating the will/spirit of the Pal people is no solution either. Hiroshima/Nagasaki was an unwarranted cruelty that the conservatives have yet to own up to.

My comments were directed at your Paki girl generalizations. Be prepared to answer to them.



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#120 Posted by fawad79 on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
shankar

i like your posts i learn about the politics of medicine second we pharmacists are pushing too in the clinical direction ...ten years ago who the the hell heard of residencies for pharmacists?...........now there are all kinds of clinical specialties ............PharmDs are knowledgable i think ......they are not all that stupid as some MD/DOs percieve them to be.........

ps PAs and NPs rxibe now everyone but us PharmDs(not that i think we should) whats up with that?

id be interested on your perception of clinical pharmacists you ever work with those clinical pharmacists i heard there a few in pyschiatry is this true?

ps the founder eo starbucks called the palis terrorists APMC called for their boycott



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#119 Posted by fawad79 on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
re saminah

am in bizarro world all of a sudden? thought you were totally pro-palestinian ........

as per palestinian to be honest i sympathize with them totally but i follow kissinger`s school of thought in int`l affairs though ... there is no ideology or morality that can be a constraining force in deliberations of foreign policy( i swear to god i should have been a diplomat or a policy wonk at STATE) the palestinian movement must be crushed by israel with such tenacity that they cant ever think of violence again .....if i was an israeli to be honest id invade them wholesale or cutter them with daisies .........like think about the US nuked hisroshma and nagasaki and ended a world war but japan is better off today ........the palestinians need to be crushed and rehabilitated ..........or israel needs to withdraw and creat a real state in west bank and gaza condemning violence is BS .........there is no moral eqivalence the palis are the underdogs like Barak said said if he was a Pali he`d join hamas .........as per kashmir id say give it to the indians i dont give a damn about it anymore..............pakistan is like jordan in the 60s when king hussein cut off connections to the West bank he put the onus of liberation on the palis themselves .........i say pakistan do the same allow NO VIOLENCE FROM AZAD KASHMIR AND CUT THESE KASHMIRIS..........if they want azadi let them fight for it .............

if you read my post carefully madam(ps im not a boy child and if you think so well i will not name call back ) i have a nuanced view of the middleast in other words ive done my homework and i only see one way out one side has to CRUSH and win the other side has to loose ............u either win by terrorim r you dont the israelis won their state by terrorism maybe its time for the palis to win or loose ..............



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#118 Posted by saminashah on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
Dost Mittar, Shankar,

Dost, first of all, congrats. on having such a socially responsible and wise daughter! For future ref. I think New Balance and Saucony are unionized and in North America. I also need a new pair of sneakers and plan on spending my money not at Nike.

For all of Nicolaus Kristof`s and co. rationalizations about why its better for impoverished workers to work within our current system, I can`t get over my gut instinct that buying from responsible companies is a local and global action; support worker parity so that local and global workers are not exploited. Its imp. that these issues are not obfuscated, esp. in this time of Enron, World.com, etc.

I`ve noticed that downsizing and its attendant evils are visiting the public service sector over here as well. For ex., my mom`s lab staff has been diminished while the work has increased. Last week, a big boss responded to a failing cleanliness report of her veteran`s hospital by refusing her and her colleagues contentions that Housekeeping be rebanded (were cut for budget reasons). His answer was to fudge the cleanliness standards and lower them a bit, so that the problem wouldn`t look so bad. Talk about creative spin...they voted against him anyway. Don`t even get me started on the NYTimes Sunday Education section on education where the piece work rate of the adjunct prof. was represented unquestioned. At this rate, I`ll be lucky to piece together several teaching jobs.

Shankar, Starbuck`s coffee is so expensive because 1. you are paying for the experience of the ``venue``; in other words, not everyone can afford to buy at Starbucks. 2. their coffee isn`t that great-over here it tends to be burnt, too strong and syrupy 3. Support your mom and pops for obvious reasons, one being Starbucks is another corporate behemoth that contributes to the destruction of local business and culture. See Barnes and Nobles, Blockbusters, Walmart. 4. See what kind of benefits Starbucks provides their employees-they sure make enough money.



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#117 Posted by jay on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
ylh 65,

Here we go again. Read up the pak history in your own great govt of mUSHERAFF web site, and name the hindus mentioned in pak history. Great gokhele is linked to pakistan, let that man rest in his grave. Now about pak freedom struggle, great, when gokhele was in prison, jinnah was outside. Any one who took part in the freedom struggle was arretsed. However no one who drank sherry and ate was arrested. Now tell to which camp gokele, tilak belonged, and to which camp jinnah belonged. So much for the pak freedom struggle, let alone the people of the present day pakistan, did it mighty leader do anything. I have to admit, drinking sherry can be a worse suffering than going to prison. By the way cangress duly paid all the legal fees for gokhele.

Now about my pak obscession. I have told it several times on the chowk, I am a paki basher, the great sport practiced by the british youth in the sventies. It is alleged that it will demonstrated in the forthcoming commonwealth games in Melbourne, and I an at present there warming up for it. Let us not deny the great contribution of pakistan to this sport, and you can be more proud of this than about your alleged freedom fighters.

With three roades named after abdus salam in the small city of lahore, how about a ``paki bash street``, I will be glad to live there.

You are so pathetic.

Regards and best bishes, you need it in that god ( sorry allah) foresaken place.

Jay



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#116 Posted by ylh on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
Dear fawad

``yasser and sax

newsflash:jinnah gandhi and einstein are dead i mean does it matter?``

Precisely my point and that is exactly what I said in #79... whatever interest I have in them is purely academic... but Saxena insists on bringing up these things when he is getting his behind whacked... You see he claimed `Pakistan is geographically too thin a country to have DST` (as if England was the fattest country in the world) declaring shamelessly that DST `depended on Latitudes`.

Then to hide his embarrassment he tried to start all this nonsense but as you can read from #79 I refused to be goaded into a Gandhi-Jinnah debate. After all his pathetic little efforts wasted, mr.Saxena turned around to claim that he had `played` me (maybe this word means something else in `Indian`) but he refused to elaborate exactly how... in came shankar with his insults and then saxena with more of his own insults and then harimau joined the lot, in typical Indian fashion. If this is the measure of their pathetic internet victories and their gratification at making imaginary bakras in their mind, I fear that even if one responds to an Indian, he/she is a bakra.

Actually I have narrowed this down to a science... What will Saxena bring up next? Rutgers perhaps?? or the Prophet?? Odds of Saxena bringing up Rutgers and the Ivy League 3 to 1, Prophet`s descendants? 5 to 1, the job that my father offered ? 5 to 1, Pakistan`s three military defeats? 4 to 1... Jinnah`s horrible exclusivist politics? 4 to 1... Gandhi`s comparison with a porsche 911? 2 to 1 ..

Odds of Rsaxena explaining why and how Pakistan is geographically too thin a country to have Daylight Savings time?? 1 in a billion.

Note: All odds based on careful calculation of probability, through an examination of Mr.Saxena last five posts.

Any bets?

-YLH





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#115 Posted by ylh on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am


``...saying you didn`t get played doesn`t mean you didn`t...``

Dear Saxena ji maharaj,

I am not saying you didn`t play me, or that you aren`t the greatest of all players... I just wanted to know what in #79 particularly did you think you played? Was it that I avoided the Gandhi debate... cuz I am sorry, I thought if I did indulge in it I would have played into your hands... clearly I was wrong..

I am just trying to learn from the best... won`t you help me out ?

faithfuly yours

YLH





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#114 Posted by ylh on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am


``...saying you didn`t get played doesn`t mean you didn`t...``

Dear Saxena ji maharaj,

I am not saying you didn`t play me, or that you aren`t the greatest of all players... I just wanted to know what in #79 particularly did you think you played? Was it that I avoided the Gandhi debate... cuz I am sorry, I thought had if I did indulge in it I would have played into your hands...

I am just trying to learn from the best... won`t you help me out ?

faithfuly yours

YLH





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#113 Posted by ylh on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
Dear sirs (harimau, shankar, rsaxena)

How are you?

I most regretfuly must inform you (rsaxena) and your wellwishers that you suffer from the Saddam Hussain syndrome brought about most definitely by that iodine deficiency I talk about... (which is probably also the reason that now you are denying your claim that DST depends on Time Zones and Pakistan and your tendency towards irrelevancy such bringing gandhi jinnah etc). You know just because Saddam Hussain claims he defeated the US in the Gulf war (analogous to India`s claims in `65), and will defeat the US again .. doesn`t mean that it really happened.

As regards your insults, no doubt your best friends here will appreciate that I have brought you to your barbaric worst so much so that you are shouting insults like a crazed maniac. To borrow the phrase from your distinguished compatriot ... you sir are `compulsively abusive`...

Personally I love dogs (I have four of them mashallah) so I don`t have any problem associating with them. So don`t waste your precious typewriting on calling me a dog.. How about thinking up a creative insult for a change...

Faithfuly yours

Yasser





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#112 Posted by DRUMZ on August 9, 2002 11:36:30 am
Arjun: Ur far away from the jinnah/ghandi/india/paki nonsense u were building on earlier (so we`ll let that slide).

``only one color matters..green.``

Not trying to knock ur hustle, but i dont get along well with paper chasers (theyll do anything to get their greens).



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#110 Posted by shankar on August 8, 2002 8:03:19 pm
Anyone,

What is this business about bycotting starbucks? Please enlighten me? Nobody makes a cup of coffee as good as them.



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#109 Posted by harimau on August 8, 2002 8:03:19 pm
Ref rsaxena #: 101

[...every now and then, it`s fun to toss a ball and watch your dog chase it down and bring it back...even if you`ve done it a thousand times, you still continue to do it...simple pleasures of life....]

In my case, my dog wants the ball thrown. He needs the exercise and the pleasure of chasing and catching SOMETHING, now that he has been neutered.

Oh my God, does THAT explain Yasser?



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#108 Posted by harimau on August 8, 2002 8:03:19 pm
Ref arjun_m #: 104

[i know indians working on banking projects in colombia too. only one color matters..green.]

Don`t tell me you ran into (or know) the same guys from Kimble Software that I ran into in Bogota!

By the way, Kimble is an Irish company with a development arm in Bangalore. Their banking software is either buggy beyond belief or the Irish don`t know how to manage software projects. The Indians I met were already there for 18 months trying to fix it all.



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#107 Posted by arjun_m on August 8, 2002 4:27:42 pm
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