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A course in Indian cinema???? what are you going to teach?? how to make your plot as disjointed as possible and tie it with a showdown and exh=change of garlands at the end? how to deal with stupid producers who only want a - barish mein eik gaana aur fountain ke upar eik gaana aur neeche eik aur .....

Re the article - well if you arent legal then you`ve got to face the consequences. And urdu newspapers - arent they eq of tabliods?? So???

sadna #26,

i have to agree with ana, u can`t accuse the guy of being against a particular group. if u don`t like the way he writes, that`s another matter.

er, um, er, Rehan has made snide remarks and nasty comments about Indians?!? Brothas and sistahs, Rehan has made snide and nasty remarks about EVERYONE, Americans, Pakistanis, Indians and possibly even Plutonians (arre Rehan, kamazkam unko tau baksh dau!!!). He is the equal opportunity disher out of snide and nasty remarks, so let`s not all get paranoid all at once, please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And of course he`s not putting all of us down..lest our paranoia grows..but then nastiness is in the eyes of the reader, as you who`ve been reading his `badly-written` (ye mein nahin kehti, zamana kehta hai)articles have said.

scout #25
Not only this one but also a number of his previous articles have had snide and nasty references to Indians. If chowk authors donot want comments about their articles, they shouldnot publish them.

sadna #14,

wow sadna, that was one of your famous

sadna-esque posts which turns a pretty innocent article into anti-india paranaoia in your mind.

are you and jay related?

sac, scout,

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah na-na!

:)

Shankar#90


Sadna is not the only one to get through during pauses at Chowk; some of the others in that privileged group are Fuzair, Feroz Khan, RSiddiqui, temporal, Urstruly and Beena.


BTW, the pauses are getting longer and longer. I wonder if Chowk is facing any serious problems (takeover battles:-)); will anyone from the Staff care to share?

Rehan,
some interesting contrasts here.
This may not be one of your best but it made
its point, Clinton and all.

Ras

sac #20,

glad to see someone agrees with me on his writing.

re saminashah #19:

Writing cannot be judged by what Joan Didion or Oprah Winfrey thinks about it. It either works or it doesn`t. This piece from one of Chowk`s featured writers doesn`t. Look at all of his work preceding this one and they all read exactly the same. Throw in a few jumbled events, add a few clever sounding new-agish remarks and then step away from the stew for the reader to figure out if its tuna or catfish. It has worked sometimes, on most occasions it hasn`t. Hence my advice to go take a class in creative writing. If Provicetown all the better.......

later

-sac

sac,

There were some connections there; I`m reminded of this para by Joan Didion:

``...We tell ourselves stories in order to live. The princess is caged in the consulate. The man with the candy will lead the children into the sea. The naked woman on the ledge outside the window on the sixteenth floor is a victim of accidie, or the naked woman is an exhibitionist, and it would be ``interesting`` to know which is which. We tell ourselves that it makes some difference whether the naked woman is about to commit a mortal sin, or is about to register a political protest, or is about to be, the Aristophanic view, snatched back to the human condition by the fireman in priest`s clothing just visible in the window behind her, the one smiling at the telephoto lens. We look for the sermon in the suicide, for the social or moral lesson in the murder of five. We interpret what we see, select the most workable of the multiple choices. We live entirely, esp. if we are writers, by the imposition of a narrative line upon disparate images, by the ``ideas`` with which we have learned the freeze the shifting phantasmagoria which is our actual experience....``

She then continues to muse that the narrative line itself sentimental, meaningless, connective, etc. What happens nowadays is no less indefinable.

.......tavern is really swanky so is the russian tea too bad its gone they had the sexiest women i swear ..............

I get the feeling that this article was written under the influence or some 10 year old wrote this in his off time. What`s the point? Taking seemingly unconnected observations and unifying them into a collage works for certain subjects, it absolutely doesn`t in this case. Observing a wedding at Tavern on the green with its atrocious food and then quoting ad-nauseum from some two-bit rag is supposed to be eye-opening? Throwing in some self-indulging comments(these days it is all about the body) won`t cut it. Maybe ylh was right all along........

A course in creative writing in exchange for the class in Indian cinema won`t be a bad idea...............

later

-sac

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Bleeding India by a thousand cuts was not so low cost an option after all. But those who support low cost options made sure they were rich enough to be legal immigrants, so are content to let their poorer countrymen to be the fall guys paying for this lowcost option back home and in the US. Its easier to whine about the US and Indians than to make this connection between cause and effect.

Instead of whining about rich Indians and their horses, why not ask how many rich Pakistanis in the US have helped out the unfortunates caught in the 9/11 net?

What is the proportion of money donated by these rich Pakistanis to `Islamic charities` for Kashmiris and Afghans to money spent helping these unfortunates in the US?

How many Pakistani-Americans have forsworn low cost options to at the very least save the future generations of legal/illegal immigrants from such harassment?

How many Pakistanis migrating to other countries want it all ways, namely to be offered every right and facility wherever they go including the right to preach hatred/use violence against those granting them those rights.

Sometimes its better to celebrate life with an obscenely ostentatious wedding in Manhattan than try to spend that money across the river buying Stinger missiles and nuclear weapons knowhow.

Your article is strangely lacking any elaboration of these details.