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God Bless Bilal Sahib. Never really had the chance to interact with him but it was a pleasure to read his posts and articles.

I don`t want this to be taken wrongly but I`m genuinely glad that in death he`s found his peace.

Umer M.

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Fuzair #200: It is very sad to hear about Bilal`s death. May his soul rest in peace.

Ylh has posted his favorite Bilal Ahmed`s text on Pakistan on another board. I had not had the opportunity to interact with him, but Ahmed Sahib seems to be gentle and just person.

My condolences to his family and Chowkies.

May Allah rest Prof. Bilal`s soul in eternal peace - and bestowes upon his family the courage to overcome the grief and pain of their loss. Prof. Bilal will be missed for a long time.

I`m very sorry to hear about Bilal Ahmed`s demise. He will be remembered and missed for his saintly disposition, for his well-informed posts and for being patient and inclusive in all his interactions.

He is the one who very kindly and politely replied to my very first post on chowk almost 3 years ago and he continued to show that kind politeness later as if he was genuinely pleased to interact and hear one`s opinion however ill-thoughtout or wildly-expressed. And he was this way with everyone. I personally learnt a lot from his generous sharing of his experiences and perspectives.

He had a true teacher`s spirit in that sense and it helped that he was very well-read and well-informed. He was like an `anchor` of chowk and has been missed ever since he became ill and stopped interacting. I do hope he had a peaceful and painless time in the end.

He is before my time, but from what ive read he seems like a strong, disciplined soul.

Why Good things happen to Bad people is an important lesson from the eternal teacher: Balance.

re: Bilal sahib`s death

I feel very sad when i read this news on chowk. Bilal sahib was a thorough genleman. I only had brief interactions with him but i never saw him ever lose his composure or say anything bad to anyone. May his good soul rest in eternal peace.

May be chowk`s administrators can post some of his posts. It will be a good way to remember him.

Sridhar

re: Gujarat carnage

Looks like Modi will be history soon. SC has upheld EC`s directives to the GOI. Off you go Modi. Good riddance.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/stories/2002090305660100.htm

Sridhar

Fuzair #191,

it`s sad to hear that :(

he was a nice, intelligent interactor at Chowk.

Fuzair # 191

Nai duniya ke hangamoN mein Nasir

dabi jaati hain awaazeN puraani

Bilal sahib was one of those voices.May his soul rest in peace.amen.

Fuzair #191:


[…I just received some sad news from Ali, Prof. Bilal Ahmad`s son. Prof. Bilal passed away on Sept. 1… He was a humanist in the best sense of the term…]

i just heard this…and am immensely saddened…Bilal Ahmed whom with respect we addressed as prof. Bilal is no more…

So what?….

i remember his as civil…. to the point of being at fault…courteous… and patient…have no idea whether he could be described as a good muslim or not…that is for Allah to judge...not for us mortals...whatever we may like to believe in…and contrary to Muslim beliefs…i believe i my hearts of heart that bilal ahmed would rest in peace… for ever and more…for he never manifested any ill will to another human being…

so what i had asked earlier…the civility that prof bilal inculcated in us here will breed and live long after…i hope, i know and pray…

...privately i chastised him for being so patient and magnanimous towards unmitigated idiots here at chowk…and he would kindly and gently re-assure me that those idiots could be redeemed…wish i had half his compassion…

hazaarouN saal nargis apni baynoori pay rooti hay…

my deep condolences to his family and to those chowkies who knew him…

regards,

temporal

Dear Chowkwallahs:

I just received some sad news from Ali, Prof. Bilal Ahmad`s son. Prof. Bilal passed away on Sept. 1. His cancer had made him extremely weak and was no longer treatable.

Those of us who have been on Chowk for some time will remember Prof. Bilal as a very kind and gentle soul whose wise counsel will be missed by all who had the good fortune to have known him. Even those who disagreed with his reasoning, as on occasion I did, could not fault where his heart lay. He was a humanist in the best sense of the term.

I am sure we will all miss him greatly.

Recently commissioneer of police of banglore frustrated by inept laws of his district remarked``islamic law is the answer to crime controll``

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1020901/asp/foreign/story_1157104.asp

Pak gangrape suspects get death

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Chief prosecution witness Abdul Razak (second from (left) and Hazoor Baksh (right), brother of gangrape victim Mukthar Mai, at the anti-terrorism court in Dera Ghazi Khan, Pakistan. (AFP)

Dera Ghazi Khan (Pakistan), Aug. 31 (Reuters): A Pakistani anti-terrorism court today sentenced six men to death for gangraping a woman in Punjab province.

Defence lawyer Mohammad Yaqub told Reuters that eight other men were acquitted in the trial before a special anti-terrorism court in the Punjab town of Dera Ghazi Khan, whose proceedings have highlighted abuses against women in rural Pakistan.

Mukhtar Mai, the 30-year-old divorced victim of the June 22 crime, was not present when the court announced the decision amid heavy security. She told Reuters yesterday members of her family had been threatened with death if the men were convicted.

Yaqub said four men were sentenced to death for committing the rape and two others for serving on a traditional village jury that authorised the crime.

?The four rapists and two jurors have been given the death penalty and a fine of 40,000 rupees ($675) each. The remaining eight have been acquitted,? he said. ?We will appeal,? he added.

Yaqub named the four sentenced to death for the rape as brothers Allah Ditta and Abdul Khaliq, Fayyaz Hussain and Ghulam Farid. The two jurors were Faiz Bakhsh and Ramzan Bichar. All the eight acquitted had served on the jury.

Mai said she was raped by four men after approaching the traditional jury, or panchayat, in her home village of Meerawali in Punjab province to settle a dispute with a rival clan.

Mai said she went to the village jury after her 12-year-old brother Abdul Shakoor was kidnapped and sodomised by members of the rival Mastoi family as a punishment for having an illicit affair with one of their relatives.

Family honour

The jury ruled that to save Mastoi honour, Shakoor should marry the woman with whom he was linked, while Mai was to be given away in marriage to a Mastoi man.

The prosecution said that when she rejected the decision she was gangraped by four Mastoi men and made to walk home nearly naked in front of hundreds of people.

Yesterday, Mai told Reuters she and her family had been threatened with revenge if the men were convicted.

?We are receiving death threats,? she said. ?They have told us that if their four people are sentenced to death, they would kill eight of our men. Not only my family, but those who supported us are being threatened with dire consequences.?

Armed police units were stationed around Dera Ghazi Khan where hundreds of members of both families and their supporters had gathered for the verdict. Black-clad elite police commandos ringed the court house.

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May be, Islamic laws can do justice...Hindu learn Finally

re:Reply #: 181

Dear Prem,

``As you know very well, we shouldn`t include all followers of Islam in that category.``

Agreed. I almost forgot i had once posted an article in chowk about a muslim cleric in India who is also a sanskrit scholar and is much sought after by other scholars. Such men, i am afraid, are in a minority.

Sridhar

Sadly this animosity in the homeland is spilling over to a new generation here in the United States. This needs to stop. From the San Francisco Chronicle (Sept.1, `02):

Rape of 15-year-old girl in Palo Alto being treated as hate crime

(09-01) 11:26 PDT PALO ALTO, Calif. (AP) --

In an attack being called a hate crime a 15-year-old girl allegedly was raped at a drug store Friday.

Palo Alto police said Sanjay Nair, 18, who is Hindu, allegedly made comments while raping the Muslim girl, leading police to label the attack a hate crime.

The attack occurred in the basement bathroom of Longs Drug Store in Palo Alto.

The girl was treated at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center before being released Saturday morning.

A manager at the store said Nair had been suspended because he had reportedly sexually harassed the girl verbally.

Nair is being held without bail in Santa Clara County Jail in San Jose on charges of false imprisonment, rape, hate crimes and sexual battery.