Islamic Utopia?

#106
What do these ignorant pakis know...you are right about billions and trillions of export, more power to your already powerful financial state.
When you are done `lecturing` the pakis...please take a trip to
Bihar,Orissa,UP, Rajasthan,Assam,Meghalaya,Arunachal,and some more whose names I don`t even know(typical ignorant paki) and tell them about the economic achievements of India in the last decade,I am sure they will be pleased to know how lucky they have been.

Here is wishing you and India a great future on this Happy Diwali Day without any ifs and buts.

Sattar # 92

ah you are hopping from board to board and spreading lies about me again? I have never ``rejected`` the concept of ``dead prophet waiting in heaven`` anywhere. Now here is your chance, you can get rid of me for good if you prove that. But something tells me you can`t and you wont. Now let us see how you reason with adnan`s post #64 if you are as reasonable as you claim to be. But something tells me that you can`t and you wont.

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``After all one shah banu caase cannot be more special than 130/2 million other women.``

That`s the point, Bapu. They should ALL be entitled to alimony in the case of divorce.

sattar2
is it me or are u getting cattier by the post?
points can be made without this overdose of sarcasm and such disastrous wit as you may percieve it...your past interactions spoke very well for you; right now you sound as much like a loser as your buddy truly..
do excuse if its not my place to be reprimanding your kind self

shankar #94 you write to faisaluno: ``If any of you are offended by my metaphorical profanity, I apologise...but atleast reflect upon what I`m saying rather than how I`m saying it... ``
I repeat this last part of your post to help faisaluno take note and provide a response that is neither defensive, nor offensive, but thoughtful.
In particular I would be interested in faisaluno`s thoughts about your point concerning the pakistani generals` going on their knees like monica before the US. Perhaps we could have some light shed on the conquest of Pakistan in 1958, in 1978, in 1999 (?) by these martial people.
Heck, the photograph of our brave soldiers climbing over the gates of the elected prime minister`s house in 1999 in order to arrest him and thus clear the way for our ``monica`` napoleons to take power was so glorious that tears still come to my eyes when I see it, and my chest swells with pride as a pakistani. Perhaps we should make a statue based on that picture. Just like the Iwo Jima memorial.

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Pakistan`s Economic Figures: Third Plan (1960-65)


Pakistani government`s per-capita development expenditures (annual)

West Pakistan East Pakistan

Rs. 521.05 Rs. 390.35


Pakistani government`s per-capita revenue expenditures (annual)

West Pakistan East Pakistan

Rs. 240.00 Rs. 70.29

faisaluno #90

Start by reading correct history. East Pakistan had been subsidizing West Pakistan. Since we stopped, you are turning into a basket casse.

ZafarA#95 Dost-mittar#80

Zakaria`s message is very sensible. Why did Indian Muslims riot recently because of some comments in America! There were deaths & property loss. There was no rioting and property loss in Pakistan and many other countries? This will be appalling to others. We should stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

Reply Dost-mittar #80

Dost-mittarji - I found some of the historical analogies Zakaria drew hard to follow the logic of, but I think he is right on the money when he says, in so many words, that Indian Muslim leaders have acted in ways which promoted themselves, but at an enormous cost to the community, and that much of this took the form of agitating on irrelevant or unrealistic issues and being satisfied with tokenistic outcomes - because the process alienated many Hindus from ANYTHING Indian Muslims as a group said without benefitting the IM community at all.

Prime example: Indian Muslims rioting because the courts said that one poor old woman had to be given alimony by her well off divorced husband. The AIMPLB made sure that their importance and independence was maintained. Moderate Hindus were appalled at the community`s insisting on maintaining a law that was clearly punitive against women. What did the community gain? The right for divorced women to be utterly without any support. Was this a great deal or what!

No, Zakaria really spoke the truth on that one.

faisaluno,

Bangladesh has achieved more in 30+ yrs than Pakistan has, in the same time. Even the most anti-Indian Bangladeshi is not clamouring for ``reunification`` with Pakistan. Besides, if Pakistan is so generous that it has allowed migrant servants ( & callgirls) from Bangladesh; why the HECK is it so shameless that its turned its back on the millions of Biharis who fought & died with West Pakistanis to prevent the country from breaking up?

Pakistan`s economy is primarily founded on one phrase ....``its the halwah from Heaven, stupid!`` After the US sanctions, Indias economy hummed along merrily (even bettering the usual ``hindu growth rate``). At that time Pakistan`s economy almost COLLAPSED! Does that tell you something?!

Get off your silly, stupid pride about how much better off we were from India during such & such eras.
The only time Pakistani economy was doing well was...& forgive my blunt profanity (its all metaphorical) is when your glorious general dictators bend their knees & gave the US a ...a...``Monica``..OK!

Ayub`s ``golden era``..yeah..because he took sides against the Soviets & allowed US bases for weapons & AID.
Zia was in deep doodoo until the damn Soviets blundered & went into Afghanistan. After that good ol` Ronnie makes him the Champion fighter of godless communism. Zia GLADLY gets on his knees & gives him a Monica; in return Pakistan gets unlimited aid & F-16s..

Now Mushy (once an international pariah) gets on his knees & Bushy is moaning with joy. Wellll...Pak economy is rescued isnt it?!

O well, when the US isnt interested in a Monica...theres always Saudi Arabia..they have, like, an open invitation...``when you come to Islamabad, oh brothers...unzip your flies..we`ll be..er.. anxiously be waiting to pucker up---NOBODY tips as well as the Saudis!``

In their eagerness to make Pakistan to live in ``pride & dignity`` against that evil, cowardly, marauding pagan beast from the East ...your honorable generals will GLADLY become whores...its a gilded whorehouse for them; ofcourse the awam gets a few crumbs for their supreme patriotic..er ..``sacrifice`` for the ``best interests of Pakistan!``

If your leaders act like whores..your country will be treated like a whorehouse....ofcourse your roads are wider & cleaner than India`s...I mean...that goes without saying..

If any of you are offended by my metaphorical profanity, I apologise...but atleast reflect upon what I`m saying rather than how I`m saying it...

re: faisaluno

{by migrating to karachi in droves to work as our menial servants without the protection available to them as pak citizens }

....ummm, genius, before insulting bangladeshis, you`d do well to consider that their country now has lower infant mortality rates and lower population growth than pakistan...not to mention a working democracy and fewer terrorits....at this rate, in a few years, you`ll be lining up to clean toilets in dhaka (no insult to toilet cleaners by comparing them to a deluded nut like you)...

Studebaker (77) I would urge you to try to understand my argument rather than beat around it with all kinds of touchy-feely stuff.

Faisaluno (90) Pakistan is the basketcase now and by most standards, Bangladesh has pulled ahead economically. Trot out those opinions a little more carefully next time.

Adnan (#64) … on Maudoodi …

‘…Maudoodis booklet ``Qadiani Masalaa`` which does not incite hatred but is a scholarly evaluation of the Ahmadi claims …’

Scholarly evaluation … by a mullah who also tells us to believe in … what else … but a prophet residing above the clouds … for two thousand years … who will one day descend to earth on the shoulders of two angels …

Even Urstruly is intelligent enough to reject such nonsense … (Rrrright Urstruly?). So much for scholarly works of Maudoodi ...

dear harimau and other bjpites:

i am not the one who is having nightmares about the past 1000 years. in fact i sleep extremely soundly indeed. and before i go to sleep everyday, i say a small prayer for jinnah to thank him for insuring that i don’t have to live next door to you guys. who says ethnic cleansing does not work. thanks also for taking east pakistan off our hands. i certainly do not want my tax rupee subsidizing another basket case economy. bangalis were grateful for their independence and they showed their gratitude by lynching mujib, by denying their hindu accomplices any participation in the government and by migrating to karachi in droves to work as our menial servants without the protection available to them as pak citizens

also before you start fantasizing about blowing up the kaaba, start by demolishing the little red mosque in the center of old dilli. however I don’t have much hope. you guys have as much courage as saurav ganguli in front of shoaib akhtar. otherwise you guys would not have left you 5000 year homeland in Pakistan at the first sign of trouble.