A Comparison of Fashion

I have drawn three conclusions after reading the responses:

1. Indian men are uglier than their Pakistani counterparts. Of course exceptions exist but they may be freaks of nature.

2. Indian girls are uglier than Pakistani ones. Of course exceptions exist but they may be freaks of nature. It is all the more true for Aishwarya Rai with odds of 550 million to one and India will produce another Aishwarya when the Indian pop becomes 2 billion.

3. Pakistani soldiers, the symbol of martial ``tall fair and handsome`` Pakistani race, are all the more respected in Pakistan after having ``successfully`` faced Indian ``onslaught`` for 8 months and having won Kargil war.

shankarsaab:


``Indian men are, in general, uglier than Pakistani men.``


…here i must throw partisanship aside and disagree…no arjun rampals, john abrahams or dino moreas here i’m afraid…

...lookie here...look what some ugly indians did...beat out toyota motor company to win...don`t worry romair, you and urstruly can lead a contingent of paki men to the mr. universe pagent and win something there to keep up... haha...:)


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In support of Romair`s point that pakistani men are more handsome than Indian men, I present the following evidence:
``Teray mukhhray tay kaala kaala til way
Oy moondia sialkotia!
Moondia sialko-o-o-o-tia!!``
Thank you. And Sialkot is in pakistan, not india.
As further proof (if indeed it is required) I present the following specimen of handsome pakistani men:
....drum roll....
Zia the Apeman!!
Nawaz Sharif the Potato Head!!!
....bugels replace the drum roll...
Musharaff the Schoolmaster!!

Hey Handsome!!
#58,

Thats DOCTOR Shankar Shiviramakrishnamaddhupattibhetanbotla...if you dont mind....:)

{{I always wondered where you received your military training. And where you developed your strategic analysis on Indo-Pak warfare. Now I know.}}

See...THATS the problem with soldier boys......trained to THINK one-dimensionally. Thats why Paki Generals lose wars with India, again & again & again...and please remind everyone in your fair homeland that if Generals SUCK...the WHOLE country loses!

A ``war`` is fought with a GOAL in mind..if the goal is attained, the war is WON; if its not, the war is LOST. You soldier boys havent realised that wars are fought NOT just on the battlefield..they are fought on the diplomatic, technological, economic & PSYCHOLOGICAL arena. Thats even MORE relevant when both sides have nuclear weapons..

Boasting about ``kill-kill`` ratios, battlefield tactics is, ultimately, STUPID! Those statistics can be fudged..I mean when Pakistan refuses to even accept the dead bodies of Pak soldiers killed in Kargil; its a sign of ULTIMATE denial of the truth!! The naieve Pakistani public believes EVERYTHING your soldier boy Generals say ! Cant say I blame them...cos admitting that the country LOST a war ESP to cowardly, horribly ugly hindoos is too bitter a pill to swallow.

Let me give you 2 CLASSIC examples:

1)KARGIL: The goal was to cut off Indian troops in Siachen. Did that happen?...NOPE!
Pakistan concentrated on battlefield tactics. By stealth they infiltrated their troops (which they claimed were Kashmiri mujahadeen) to advantageous high ground. By the time Indians realised this (alerted by a ``traitorous`` Kashmiri shephard..RAW gaya tel galli mein..), Pakis were able to kill a lot of Indian soldier boys.

Just in case you didnt realise..the tide was turning in the battlefield..Also, the wily bania coyotes in Delhi launched a diplomatic war. The ENTIRE world scolded Pakistan! Including your ``all-weather`` friend China! NS was summoned to the White House & got his butt chewed off by Clinton! Then came the HUMILIATING withdrawal...NS & Mushy started blaming each other...bam..coup!!

And the naieve Pakistani public thinks Pakistan WON the Kargil war!! Heheh...

2) The ``hool`` war: Now even you are dumb enough to admit I was right...I TOLD you the military build up was ``hool``! One of the goals was to force Pakistan to admit they are behind the terrorist attacks in IOK. What you dont realise was that the ``hool`` was for big daddy America! Y`see when America`s interests are at stake...F*ck ``friendship``!!

America was worried that an Indo-Pak war would RUIN their interests in cathching Al-Qeeda..so they twisted Mushy`s arm! Very diffuclt for Mushy to give America a nice blow job, while America is twisting his arm! So he goes on national TV & announces a STRATEGIC U-TURN!!! Ergo..our strategy failed..back to the drawing board; guys...Big John America isnt ``buying`` the notion of ``freedom fight`` in Kashmir...they are agreeing with India & calling them...GASP! TERRORISTS!!! What a waste of a blowjob!

HAHAHAH!! Even Field Marshall Romair got PISSED at America`s ``ingratitude`` & advocated stronger relations with China! Conveniently forgetting China`s role in this hangama..listen buddy, the fact that China isnt twisting India`s arm is a HUGE diplomatic victory for India! The fact that NONE of the Islamic countries are twisting India`s arm is a HUGE diplomatic victory for India! The fact that India could get away relatively UNSCATHED even after a pogrom in Gujrat is a HUGE diplomatic victory for India!

So did India achieved her ``goals`` with the ``hool`` war??...lets see..
a)Mushy announced a ``strategic U-turn`` & pissed of those same fundos he was supporting..now he has to worry about THEM killing him more than RAW!
b)cross border infiltration reduced significantly enough for India to hold elections in IOK. The ``separatists`` threats of killing any Kashmiri who participates in an election & actually killing some muslim candidates dont endear your cousins in IOK to them. The international community has ACCEPTED the elections in IOK as legitimate...who the F*ck cares if Mushy thinks they are a fraud? A man who has made a mockery of elections in his OWN country has ZILCH credibility to comment on elections in IOK. Only stupid (but handsome) Pakistanis buy his crap!!!..:)))
c)Now that the dust has settled down, India is withdrawing her forces..except in Kashmir..cant COMPLETELY abandon ``hool``

{{After facing off India successfully for the past eight months, they are even more respected..}}
``successfully``??!!! hahahah!! what a bunch of HANDSOME morons! Its STUPID for India to launch a war when Pakistan has nuclear weapons! Jeeze, dont you guys EVER ``get it?!``
Those Indian soldiers who twiddled their thumbs on the frontline achieved a heck of a lot more than you care to admit!

The goal of the GoI:
--hold an election in Kashmir successfully & marginalise & cause rifts between the ``freedom fighters`` & the Kashmiris who are SICK & TIRED of the ongoing violence was ACHIEVED..ya dufus!:)

Hey!!...you guys are HANDSOME...you guys are strutting 12-point bucks in the rutting season...NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

but you guys STRONGLY lack in the brains dept! The bania coyotes cut you down to size, frustrate you again & again & again...but you bucks are too stupid to even realise it!

I`ll tell you the CLASSIC Pakistani ``spin doctoring``...which you are, undoubtedly an expert at...with this metaphor:

An Indian & Pakistani play a chess match. The HANDSOME , marital Pakistani jumps up & down with joy because ``I killed the Indian`s queen! I killed the Indian`s queen!!``. The ugly, nerdy Indian politely taps him on the shoulder & says...``er..excuse me..handsome..I just check-mated you``
The Pakistani says ``Aw, so what!! I killed your queen, I killed your queen!!!...I AM the Ayatollah of chess!!``

Sometimes I think Allah puts a large amount of a Pakistani`s brains in his prepuce!!
Ergo, please give your women a chance to play chess with us; hahn!?...you bucks SUCK at it...you DONT look at the whole chess board ...& are too stupid to admit it!!:))

BTW, believe it or not, I actually got a 4-pointer yesterday!! Want some venison?..We killed it & bled it completely..so I guess the meat is halal...
BESIDES....MID-MICHIGAN is safe now!!....:)

dullabhatti #59: I think you are taking this too seriously. I think most of the people, including me, are testing their sense of humor

Romair bao: awein gussa na kar laina meri gall da....you do have some truth in your assertions but harping it day in and day out and trying to make some kind of religion or identity out of it is simply bullshit.

main kohjji mera murshid sohna, sohneyaN de sang layeaaN.
sadkay jaawan ehna sohneya koloN, jehna laa ke torh nibhayeaN.

shankar #52: ``Indian men are, in general, uglier than Pakistani men.``

It is good to see that in this world filled with deceit, dishonesty, double-speak, fakeness, there are still a few honest men around, who don`t mind admitting the truth.

``osentsibly to shoot down Bambi`s father with a bow & arrow.``

I always wondered where you received your military training. And where you developed your strategic analysis on Indo-Pak warfare. Now I know.

I don`t think Bambi`s father has too much to worry about. The odds are pretty good, he will still be alive, by the time your hunt is over.

``Have you seen a SINGLE Indian who curses the Indian army the same way many Pakistanis do their army?! ``

This is true. But, even in Pakistan, the people in the Army who actually do the fighting (everyone from the rank of jawan to major/colonel) are extremely well respected. You can look at any newspaper, any critic, any common person`v views, any survey, and they will be at the top of the list of respected Pakistanis. After facing off India successfully for the past eight months, they are even more respected. Everyone from corrupt Benazir to the honest cobbler has a great deal of respect for them and says so publicly. I have first hand experience.

When it comes to Generals, the story is different. Indian Generals are more respected by Indians than Pakistani Generals by Pakistanis, for reasons you have mentioned. However, Chowk is the only place where I have seen a few people put the Pakistani Generals and jawans into the same group of criticism. But 99% of Pakistanis (the people who live in Pakistan and actually know the difference) do not put them in the same category.

``its the NERDS who rule the world, pal...``

I couldn`t agree with this more. You need to keep in mind you are talking to a nerd. I do this stuff for a living. Unfortunately, everyone wants to keep discussing my previous profession with me, rather than my current one. Considering you are an expert on military strategy, would you also happen to be an expert on Software systems? I am sure you have used Windows, which is enough to make you an expert.

And just for good effect, to let everyone know that there are honest people amongst us, who don`t mind highlighting their shortcomings, I would like to requote:

``Indian men are, in general, uglier than Pakistani men.`` (Famous last words spoken by Mr. Shankar Shiviramakrishnamaddhupattibhetanbotla, as he was attacked and killed by Bambi during his famous jungle expedition):

P.S Didn`t Nehru say this before you did? Or was it Valladbhai Patel?

I don`t know much about good looks, but so far the Pakistanis (Naqshabandi and Romair) seem to be kicking some Indian butt as fas as pissing each other off is concerned.

:)

re: shrinker

{Let me shake you off your slumber , its the NERDS who rule the world, pal...except in Pakistan & majority of muslim countries..you guys STILL dont get it!!}

...and you`re neither nerdy nor good looking...how do you survive?...pity?...

romair#48

Romair saheb,
what was your rank in the army.Thank you.

Dullabhatti#49
LOL

Just throwing a little ghee in

Aish is Tulu

Kapoors are Punjabis, from Peshore

Romair,

#48


Yar, I wanted to comment on your entire message, phrase by phrase, but I gotta go to the woods with a couple of rednecks , put on a lot of camouflage paint in this beautiful Michigan nippy freezing weather & enjoy the peace & quiet of nature (there is no greater beauty on earth than Michigan woods in Fall)---osentsibly to shoot down Bambi`s father with a bow & arrow. You know, its essential for some of us male ``volunteers`` to save our ``civilian`` populations from hoards of marauding whitetail deer.

Alas, all we have proved to ourselves is that playing ``soldier-boy`` in the Michigan woods is--- we have BAD aim,we can drink lots of chilled beer (when the DNR isnt around) ,we can burp & fart & roll in the mud with the best of them &, BEST OF ALL, there are no pesky wives to nag us from doing that. Pretending to play soldier boy is a tremendous amount of fun. Being a REAL soldier boy is just for total buttheads like you.

Ofcourse, you smartened up & left the army & decided to be one of those civilian pussies like us...after all, only REAL men are tough enough to stick it out in the army...

ESP in the glorious, invincible army that feels it has a divine mandate to kick the butt of the Pakistani civilian pussies whenever they feel that the country needs to be ``saved``; an army that has commited a genocide of her own civilians & pretends that it has admitted its crimes & came to terms with it; an army that has NEVER won a war in its glorious history; an army that has changed its tactics & are training fanatical brain dead civilians to die for them cos they have realised they cant defeat the cowardly Indians in head to head combat..& not doing too well in that dept because their 15 yrs of ``the war of a 1000 cuts`` has accomplished didley-squat....

Yo! youre not the only one here who can present ``facts``:))...

These ,buddy, are the REAL men of Pakistan! They are the ones who ultimately call the shots, who ultimately decide what direction Pakistan should take...

If you go to a guy & put a gun to his head & ask him ``tell me, my friend, am I doing a good job?`` What the f*ck do you think he`s going to tell you?....``y-y-yes sir, General sir, you are doing a FANTASTIC job!!!`` If somebody has the GUTS to tell the good General..``listen, pal, you SUCK..`` Mushy will laugh magnanimously & say ``see, I like people with guts, who tell me the truth...I want you to be my eyes & ears``..Yeah..thats all well & good, but in the end, he`ll do EXACTLY what he wants!...I mean; he has a ``divine`` mandate!


Who the HELL are you trying to kid?! yourselves? the newly elected Parliament is gonna be a lot of noise, political grandstanding & no action. NONE of your MALE civilian pussies (however handsome they may be) have the GUTS or the BALLS to take on the army (because they are handsomER)...& they`ll cut your nuts if you DARE to dispute that!. So, enough said about Pakistani MEN!

Indian men are, in general, uglier than Pakistani men. But in the brains dept; they can run circles around you testesterone laden wolves. Those men have let a women run the country with AUTHORITY (not run a country through his wife`s proxy, like Zardari), trained their army to take orders, stay in the barracks, give hool & at times, do what theyve been TRAINED to do...fight a war, but KNOW THEIR PLACE in Indian society. Have you seen a SINGLE Indian who curses the Indian army the same way many Pakistanis do their army?! The Indian army has EARNED the respect of her people---not DEMANDED it at the point of a gun!

Let me shake you off your slumber , its the NERDS who rule the world, pal...except in Pakistan & majority of muslim countries..you guys STILL dont get it!! You think these REAL men can steer the ship of your country?! Tell me one military dictatorship, no matter how ``benevolent`` has made their country great?! Its these REAL MEN in Pakistan who have F*cked up your country. Ofcourse you will find very creative spin doctoring to wriggle out from these facts. But the more you spin, the more people laugh at it...

You show the TYPICAL mentality of a soldier boy...you are so secure in spinning facts that I think you are actually believing your own bs:)!!

Can I just add as a caveat emptor to my initial comm

































































as a caveat emptor can I just add regarding my initial comments on indian beauty vs pakistani beauty that

(1) my comments on Indian girls beauty being less in general than pakistani girls` does NOT apply to North Indian girls, and Indian Punjabi girls (esp Sikhs) in particular, who are as good looking as Pakistani girls imho.
(2) beauty is purely a subjective thing -although there does tend to be certain traits which are considered beautiful in every culture. (Lightness of skin interestingly being one of them).
(3) this post was partly in jest too and not meant to be offensive to anyone (except rsaxena who i love annoying just for the heck of it!!)

***
romair bhaiyya--i have been writing poetry for the past 10 years or so--it is not a new thing! just my interactions on chowk generally do not allow me to show my other side if you will...:-) I am actually probably a lot more anglicised in my views and behaviour than a lot of the `secular` minded pakistanis on chowk; and when it comes to indians--some of my best friends are indians [both muslims and hindus]. The problem i think for others on chowk lies with the fact that i take my primary identity from Islam and not from any nationality (though i am a proud pakistani too) and my views on Islam are what is traditionally called ``orthodox`` and Traditionalist and I am not apologetic about them.

If any of you were to meet me in real life the last thing you would think would be that I was in any way like the Taliban! As I have said umpteenth times I have always been against the Taliban interpretation of Islam both from a theological perspective (I have serious differences with some of their Deobandi aqaid) and also from their implementation of it.

And although I am happy the MMA have done so well that is primarily due to the presence of the JUP in the coalition and especially Shah Noorani sahib; if he were to leave it I would no longer support the MMA as then it would be a coalition of Deobandis and Wahabis only. But with his presence I think he can be a strong moderating influence and present a more accurate implementation of Islam. I think that on the whole Islam is --as I understand it and believe--in terms of practise a fairly liberal religion and it is not anything like a totalitarian system unlike the Taliban.

PAK BEAUTIES,

There are pictures of hundreds of pakistani women in the matrimonial section of indian express, trying to escape from honour killings and the hell hole of a country.

It is time that eligible indians threw a life line to them. At least from a beauty point of view, many deserve it.

re: romair

{So, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on being more educated, more cultured, more intelligent, more balanced etc. }

...at least you know your intellectual limitations...good for you...now go do the work your indian boss assigned you and stop vomitting all over chowk...