The Discovery

Hocus!!! Sssssssssshhhh!! Chup! hehehehe.... ;p

Saminashah:
Q. What is the fastest way to a woman`s heart?
A.

Lady A:

I knew it!!! I so knew it!!!! had to be u anoooo...had to had to had to...hehe...the cubicles, the corporate office....maan it was too easy....:p....

wuv, hocie ;)

Q: What is the fastest way to a man`s heart?

A: Through his chest with a sharp knife.



Never trust a man who says he`s the boss at home. He probably lies about other things as well.


Scientists have just discovered something that can do the work of five men.....a woman.



Three fishermen were fishing when they came upon a mermaid, the mermaid offered them one wish each so the the first fisherman said: ``double my I.Q``..so the the mermaid did it and he started reciting Shakespeare.

Then the second fisherman said`` ``Triple my I.Q.``..and sure enough the mermaid did it and amazingly he started doing math problems he didn`t know existed.

The third fisherman was so impressed that he asked the mermaid to quadruple his I.Q and the mermaid said: ``Are you sure about that? It will change your whole life!``..the fisherman said yes so the mermaid turned him into a woman.

Sameer - Thank u for the encouragement. Yes, I have Arab heritage. (Ana Bint J. means [I am] Pride, the daughter of J.).

Heterosexual females do tend to typically treat both partners in a gay relationship as the same, which is basically as regular men. (With lesbians, it is different I think, but I do not have experience with them so I don`t really know, only what I have heard second-hand. Which is that straight females will prefer to associate with the female in the lesbian relationship more than the female who acts male, because the male women try to ``come on`` to them).

Hope tha answered ur q.

Sameer:
She seems , and justifiably so, to have left India, Pakistan etc., for you to talk about. Good work Sameer. Maybe the thing has run its course.

And what is this fixation on the ``receiving end``? At first I thought that you wrote it in the vernacular mode but I realized later that it was a targeted expression!


#4 by sameerJB on September 9, 2002
LadyAna: I just rated you original/ insightful twice. actually your piece is radically different styled than most chowk. How come you did not mention Kashmir, India or Pakistan even once?

DrDr: Strangely, the posts are picking up today. The drought seems to be subsiding. I woder if it is 9/11 or better opportunity to interact on favorite topics, Kashmir, Pakistan, India,......

I havent read this article because I dont want to strain my eyes reading such a small font. I am sure many hours have gone into selecting the exact shades of pink and green and what not but its not reader friendly any more. The whole thing is left justified and occupies half of my 21`` hig res monitor.

everyone else who is kinda disappointed with this new look can chip in.
keep the old interface with the new features if possible. Sometimes, less is more.

Farangi_kush,

An interesting point of view I must admit, funny how amidst bigger (read real) problems in life, men find something to be able to call themselves `seriously aggreived males`. woww!

Welcome to Chowk!

Have to agree with Scout on this one (very funny, Scout!)...the conversations natural and flows, altho Damen is not a particularly compelling dude-can you make him, like, a lot more fun and smart? Why is his apt. musty? Or is Sana hyperventilating? Also, why is he so clingy? Can`t he be a self assured, cool, I`ll talk to you and I`m fabulous kind of a guy? Are Joe`s perception hysterical homophobia? Does Joe have gaydar? Why does Damen drag Sana over to his apt and divulge his personal life? Most temps get by on just telling you their first name....in essense-how much of Damen is a construction for your audience and why? Do you not trust your audience to have the intelligence and tolerance to rise to the occasion?
Just asking...

Sameer,
I think I disagree with almost everything you wrote on this one! :)

Progress of Perversions in FarangiLand.
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Anti-male bias increasingly pervades our culture

September 4, 2002

by John Leo

A famous televison newswoman told this joke last month at a fund-raising dinner for a women`s college: A woman needed a brain transplant. Her doctor said two brains were available, a woman`s brain for $500 and a man`s brain for $5,000. Why the big price difference? Answer: The woman`s brain has been used.

Most in the audience laughed, but one man stood up and booed. What`s wrong? asked a woman at his table. The man said, ``Just substitute woman, black or Jew for `man` in that joke, and tell me how it sounds.``

At about the same time, American Greeting Cards launched an ad campaign in Newsweek, Life and other magazines. One ad featured a ``Thelma and Louise`` greeting card, pasted into the magazines, that said on the front: ``Men are always whining about how we are suffocating them.`` The punch line inside the card was this: ``Personally, I think if you can hear them whining, you`re not pressing hard enough on the pillow.``

The newswoman, who is a friend, seemed shocked when I phoned and raised questions about her joke. ``The poor, sensitive white male,`` she said. A spokesman for the greeting card company saw nothing wrong with a humorous card about a woman killing a man. He faxed a statement saying the card had been pretested successfully, and besides, ``We`ve heard no protests from consumers who are buying and using this card.`` But would American Greetings print a card with the sexes reversed, so the humor came from men joking about suffocating a woman? No, said the spokesman, because 85 percent to 90 percent of cards are bought by women. There is no market for a reverse card.

In truth, no man could get up at a fancy banquet and tell a joke about how stupid women are. And a greeting card joking about a woman`s murder would be very unlikely, even if surveys showed that millions of males were eager to exchange lighthearted gender-killing greetings. The obvious is true: A sturdy double standard has emerged in the gender wars.

``There used to be a certain level of good-natured teasing between the sexes,`` says Christina Sommers, author of ``Who Stole Feminism?`` ``Now even the most innocent remark about women will get you in trouble, but there`s no limit at all to what you can say about men.``

Men`s rights groups phone me a lot, and I tell them my general position on these matters: The last thing we need in America is yet another victim group, this one made up seriously aggrieved males. But these groups do have an unmissable point about double standards. On the ``Today`` show last November, Katie Couric suddenly deviated from perkiness and asked a jilted bride, ``Have you considered castration as an option?`` Nobody seemed to object. Fred Hayward, a men`s rights organizer, says: ``Imagine the reaction if Matt Lauer had asked a jilted groom, `Wouldn`t you just like to rip her uterus out?```

The double standard is rooted in identity politics and fashionable theories about victimization: Men as a group are oppressors; jokes that oppressors use to degrade the oppressed must be taken seriously and suppressed. Jokes by the oppressed against oppressors, however, are liberating and progressive. So while sexual harassment doctrine cracks down on the most harmless jokes about women, very hostile humor about men keeps expanding with almost no objections.

Until recently, for example, the 3M company put out post-it notes with the printed message: ``Men have only two faults: everything they say and everything they do.`` Anti-male greeting cards are increasingly graphic, with some of the most hostile coming from Hallmark Cards` Shoebox Division.

(Sample: ``Men are scum ... Excuse me. For a second there I was feeling generous.``) Columnist Cathy Young sees a rising tide of male-bashing, including ``All Men Are Bastards`` and ``Men We Love to Hate`` calendars, and a resentful ``It`s-always-his-fault`` attitude pervading women`s magazines.

Commercial attempts to increase the amount of sexual antagonism in America are never a good idea. And if you keep attacking men as a group, they will eventually start acting as a group, something we should fervently avoid. But the worst impact of all the male-bashing is on the young.

Barbara Wilder-Smith, a teacher and researcher in the Boston area, was recently quoted in several newspapers on how deeply anti-male attitudes have affected the schools. When she made ``Boys Are Good`` T-shirts for boys in her class, all 10 of the female student teachers under her supervision objected to the message. (One, she said, was wearing a button saying ``So many men, so little intelligence.``)

``My son can`t even wear the shirt out in his back yard,`` she said. ``People see it and object strongly and shout things.`` On the other hand, she says, nobody objects when the girls wear shirts that say ``Girls Rule`` or when they taunt the boys with a chant that goes, ``Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider; girls go to college to get more knowledge.`` Worse, she says, many adolescent boys object to the ``Boys Are Good`` shirts too, because they have come to accept the cultural message that something is seriously wrong with being a male.

``The time is ripe for people to think about the unspoken anti-male `ism` in our colleges and schools,`` she says. And in the rest of the popular culture as well.

John Leo

Aziz 786 - no no no... I DREW it from personal experience, not that it ditto happened to ME!! uff!

Hocie - ;P

ugg ya! The typos are awful. I don`t know how to edit on here...still learning the ropes. Don`t mind pls..

Finally a sigh of relief from ana! No more complaining about not being rated and no replies. I think your portrayal of male homo partner, on the receiving end is quite accurate. It is well known fact that those people, called ``Bagga`` in England, have higher level of androgen hormones and relatively more interested in issues usullay considered feminine specialties like serious talk about color of clothes etc. Men usually, kind of, feel pity for them or sympathetic. The giver in gay relationship is more acceptable to male society than the one on receiving end. I think such clear discrimination is not common among females. They perhaps treat both gay partners equally?
DrDr: Strangely, the posts are picking up today. The drought seems to be subsiding. I woder if it is 9/11 or better opportunity to interact on favorite topics, Kashmir, Pakistan, India,......

heyloooo Ana...loved it...really well written...except for a few typos maybe....u know what though??? i think joe hired damen on purpose prolly to win over sana...or some twisted scheme like that....and what`s worse is that sana actually fell for it....i wanted to smack joe on that `naive` wala remark!!!...khair look forward to more stuff from you...waisay are u the same Ana who messages `hocie` at another forum?? ;) (if not then ignore the last bit! =p)

rgds,

Samina

LadyAna, your ramblings don`t make any sense at all. First you tell us that this is an actual experience and that you went to a school where 50% were homos including the professors. Why would a person exposed to homosexual people react in a way that Sana did?.

Just doesn`t make sense.