The Discovery

Yes I agree with Anny & Cyma, why not talk about lesbos as well, if one is right the other cannot be wrong.

regardless of what is right and wrong, feeling repulsive is very understandable for us since we live in a conformist society whose hallmark is hypocrisy. Nothing should stop us from questioning and debating such things.

Its understandable that these people are different in their attitude towards sex but people normaly start avoiding them. This attitude is not understandable. Then there are lots of girls who are known and professed lesbians. They are also different from the stereo type.
They are not different from these guys in their attitude towards sex but nobody avoids them. Why?

homosexuality is not seen as something pleasant here,simply because the person is different... and the stereo type.......things go much deeper then dressing , cooking and husbands......is that all what a feminity is about..? not convincing.... sana was dizzy because the person looked normal initially......which dictionary told her that gays have horns on their heads......why do people want every aspect of people` life apparent......their sexuality .....their lifestyle.....should be aparent in their pastel shaded shirts? and everyone in the office is failing to mind their own bussiness when they have to and waiting for the two weeks to be over so the guy leaves....now that hurt me....the gay male has feelings..mean bunch....i would never fret about what genitals the spouse of my friend has......its as bad as racism....gays are intresting, multi faceted individuals....different from us and from each other......and sharing meals with them is not harmfull.....every gay reading this is invited to eat at my place......
ammara

I dun understand... suddenly the world is against gay guys???

sameer bhai,

Nahin, no big s for you....especial qualifications required...card carrying member of socialist party kae vada karna hain....vasai, lets see if Nooralain Bagi is amenable to a well mannered reprobate such as yourself :)

anNy: ana with small a, anNy with small a? Sameer used to be with big S but somehow in the new format, they changed my login name from SameerJB to sameerJB and gave my big S to saminashah for the price of small h; now she is Saminasha. Samina, how can I get my big S back without giving up either of two lovely small a - nooralain and quratalain? Who is making all these new rules: big S only for Syeds, big G for God, small g for Damen with or without pimples. How come scout got back to scout from scout (new)?
anNy, sweetheart, what is wrong with the big A. Big A used to mean A grade but now it is politically incorrect and technically makes no difference for login on internet; I can login with sameerjb, sAmeerJB or whatever. A ko A hee rehne do koi naam na du. Anybody out there with big B, as in JB or J & B?
So what is cooking, anNy? I know Samina has been cooking for a while lekin daal naheeN gul rahi. Lekin Sal an is cooking fine and roast Salim chicken with Salsa. Yum, yum. Right!
[Challo Sameer Sahib, get moving! Jaldi] ``Take your time Sameer Sahib. He is gone for Isha prayer and not likely to come back any time soon.``
``Why doesn`t he go for Haj, so that we can go to Las Vegas.``
Sameer Jal`d Baz

anNy,
I think Sameer Sahib and ana would be delightful together!

Challo Sameer Sahib, get moving! Jaldi!

samina what u think of sameersaab and our ana with the small a? jaldi batana, he`s getting old you know...woh kya tha, seniority and senility..?

Lady Ana
This wasnt a very nice read..i thought sana a very artificial and forced charactor (also somewhat abnormally budtameez and immature) and the story didnt have too much of a story line either..also yaar, did the end have to be so very predictable..beaming? thought ud never ask? tom and jerry scene ho gaya

Uh, Lady Ana,
With all due respect, I agree with Bina....while I appreciate what you are trying to do, you might want to do some research on some of the ideas in your play....let us know if you want some of our feedback...

Sameer Bhai,
Very funny! :) I think I like your version better for its whimsy...and yes, you clever gentleman you, the way to a woman`s heart is through her mind....as you all know, the great seduction takes place up there and not any lower!

Ana Bint J.

Gaydar is gay radar....to be possessed by gay people who recognise their own; as in ``Will thinks he`s straight, but apparently he`s the last to know the truth``. Straight people who have gaydar are either 1. off the money/don`t know what they are talking about or 2. maybe are the really the last ones to know about themselves....
Of course, you could always read the theorists who argue that sexuality is a construct anyway, and everyone has the capacity to be bisexual. Hope that doesn`t frighten the baabaas out of you farangi kush.

Ana,
This was certainly interesting! Though, like some others, I was surprised by the way Sana reacted to Damen. You sure it wasn`t the Ajinomoto (monosodium glutamate) in the Chinese food making for all the gurrhburrh? :)
Cheers,
Aamir

This whole piece had me kind of shaking my head and wondering, but this comment from the author leaves me in shock!

``Middle-class gays typically have spots or acne-type growths on their faces, or bodies, because unlike richer closet gays (who usually maintain a wife, two kids and a porsche), the middle and lower classes can`t always afford the expensive drugs that keep their system ``healthy``. So, they breakout a lot. They live also in a manner that no normal female would like her house to be in. Incense, perfumes, etc.. mask smells.``

Wouldn`t this be typical of middle class men in particular, not just gay men? What exactly is a ``normal female``? Exactly what kind of smells were you implying gay men are trying to mask?

The stereotyping leaves me in shock. This piece is sadly lacking in subtly or any kind of real sophistication in understanding the subject it attempts to portray.

#26 by Saminasha on September 11, 2002

Q: What is the fastest way to a man`s heart?
A: Through his chest with a sharp knife.

[Professor sahiba: The age-old problem again. Sawal gandum, jawab jou! Talk about the abstract, get an answer in the literal!]

Never trust a man who says he`s the boss at home. He probably lies about other things as well. [How true!]

Scientists have just discovered [just? Men or women scientists? Or, mixed teams?] something that can do the work of five men.....a woman.



Three fishermen were fishing when they came upon a mermaid, the mermaid offered them one wish each so the the first fisherman said: ``double my I.Q``..so the the mermaid did it and he started reciting Shakespeare. [I have heard perfectly illiterate individuals recite the Qur`an! They are called Hafizs. Did they run into mermaids too?]

Then the second fisherman said`` ``Triple my I.Q.``..and sure enough the mermaid did it and amazingly he started doing math problems he didn`t know existed. [Are those the kind women/mermaids do? I mean the ones that do not exist? E.g. 2+2 = 5 7/9?]

The third fisherman was so impressed that he asked the mermaid to quadruple his I.Q and the mermaid said: ``Are you sure about that? It will change your whole life!``..the fisherman said yes so the mermaid turned him into a woman. // To do mathematics, in particular//

#30
[Fastest way to a woman`s heart is thru a man`s pocket. (Velcom). :) ]
Nops! I specifically mentioned heart, not................the fastest way to a woman`s heart starts with the choice of woman. Somebody like myself...........short, obese, ugly, balding,.......proposing to marry is the fastest way.
from saminashah`s post:
[Scientists have just discovered something that can do the work of five men.....a woman.]
Do you know what kind of ``work``, scientists had in mind?

A fishermen was fishing when he came upon a mermaid, the mermaid offered him one wish.....so the fisherman said: ``build me a road to Hawaii, because I am sacared of flying but wish to go to Hawaii``........the mermaid went to her computer, crunched some data and came back with an apology.....``sorry it is too expensive and beyond my capabilities....please wish something simple and cheaper``. The fisherman thought for a moment and asked ``okay, I wish to understand woman`s mind``.....the mermaid went back to her computer, crunched some data and came back with her reply: ``Sir, would you prefer two-lane or four-lane highway to Hawaii``.

Allo Allo :)

Thanks for the welcome Saminasha!. Hmm... lessee how to go about addressing the concerns.

1. what is gaydar? (I do not know the meaning)
2. I can`t make Damen smart and funny now na, because already posted the story. Maybe next time...;)

3. I tried to give a couple of clues as to Damen`s and Sana`s respective behaviors. In my experience, gay men in a husband-wife type relationship usually have clearcut demarcation lines that u can distinguish which partner is what from. The ``females`` usually are overly-feminine. Excessive hand-movements, excessive gestulations, facial expressions, esp. mouth expressions. They like to chatter a lot, more than normal females do. They display an over-active interest in all things feminine, and this includes being fussy about their hair, clothes, make up (yes, they wear do make up.. lipstick, mascara, etc..), and foodstuffs. I started by making Damen have a pimpled face, that leading up to the ``musty`` atmosphere in his flat and the bold colors, would give an outright impression that this is a different sort of person. Middle-class gays typically have spots or acne-type growths on their faces, or bodies, because unlike richer closet gays (who usually maintain a wife, two kids and a porsche), the middle and lower classes can`t always afford the expensive drugs that keep their system ``healthy``. So, they breakout a lot. They live also in a manner that no normal female would like her house to be in. Incense, perfumes, etc.. mask smells. So, I tried to bring that out in the story. I guess, not an effective attempt.

I also tried to give clues to Sana`s personality. Yellow teeshirt, bright, floral.. springtime freshness... spring in her walk, her manner of meeting people around her... implying innocent trusting attitude.. as a contrast to the bold red and black colors in Damen`s apartment.. a hellish combination colors in a way, and red being the color of blood, black being the color of death, white being a bit of light that is trying to mask the sordid atmosphere. So.. contrasting innocence with sin.

And then the way Sana doesn`t touch anything fearing she`ll get polluted.. I thought people might pick up on that, but guess not. She goes back to work and washes herself up as if she`s taking a shower.. to get ``clean`` again.

Wasn`t trying to undermine the intelligence of the readers, just portrayed things as I saw them. Hmm...did try though to put some depth of feelings into this piece, sorry if it didn`t carry thru. Anyhoo, I`ll try for a better job next time. Cheers! :)

#28 Fastest way to a woman`s heart is thru a man`s pocket. (Velcom). :)