Were We Too Hijacked by 9/11?

Ref jay #61
[With in a span of fifty years, two countries with common heritage have evolved so differently. Vajpaye wqas in new york attending a service for the twenty indians who died, while in pakistan, al jareeza was interviewing the masterminds of the terror attack. In itlay 15 pakistanis were getting arretsde for al quaida links.
No romair or ylh wants to tlak of the values that brought about this difference]
The great irony that our dear boy Yasser doesn`t appreciate is that the Congress that led an extra-constitutional mass movement for independence ended up giving India a strong constitution while the strict Constitutionalist Jinnah ended up with a country where the Koran is the constitution, unless of course even that is superceded by a Provisional Constitution Order as issued by Pervez Musharraf.

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ferozk,
#73

Wiser words were never heard on Chowk. Kudos, I think you hit the nail on the head.

in his enthusiasm in putting down pakistan, he`d better remember that India is falling (& fallen) in the same gutter as Pakistan.

Re: arjun_m et rsaxena

You are more than welcome to call me names. I have no objections to it. Please feel free to insult me to your heart`s content. :-)

You are free to disagree with me and I welcome your disagreements, because this what makes Chowk such an interesting and instructional place to frequent.

You might not like hearing it, but India does have a problem with extermism. India is slowly assuming the characteristics of a facist state and there is a distinct intoleranace in the politics of India that was not present 10 years ago. Except for Hinduvata (sp) there seems to be no other debate in India and even the Indian newspapers are refering to the systematic manner in which BJP`s political ideologue, RSS and Sang Parivar, is posioning the Indian political debate.

About twenty years ago, we in Pakistan also refused to read the signs, which were clearly visable when Zia-ul-Haq started his policies of turning Pakistan into the nation that it is today. We also turned a blind eye to the events and now we have to pay for it; the payment of which can be measured in the terms of how the world sees us internationally.

I will give the credit to the Indians that they have done an excellent job of masking the image of India internationally. India maybe beautiful on the outside, but there is a rot inside India. India is merely twenty years behind Pakistan in this regard and if it continues with its present policy, India will be one day, where Pakistan finds itself today.

Ciao

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re:#61 by jay
Jay,
Sometimes, complements come from unexpected quarters. I was waiting in the Dept of Transportation to register my car when an elderly white American started talking to me. He had taken part in the second world war and remembered vividly all the German towns which the allied army captured before reaching Berlin. Then he wanted to know where i was from. Upon learning that i was from India, he said that it was perhaps among the very few countries in that part of the world that has not taken to terrorism as an answer to problems. This was a senior citizen. This is how an average american feels about India. Need i care what Mushy says or what Koffi Annan is saying? Heck, no.
Sridhar

re:#48 by rsaxena
Great news about the launch, Saxena. It is incredible how much these guys are able to accomplish with a limited budget.
Sridhar

Asia Times online says

India isolated - Kofi Annan says interantional community must have a say in the future of captive kashmir - Will hindu fanatics come to their senses and negotiate? Now that Pakistan has (actually India has) successfully internationalized the issue of captive Kashmir, and India has raised international fears of state terror (events of Gujjrat) and Hindu fanatics in link to acts of terror in India has been established - what can Pakistan expect? Will the Hindu fanatics deescalate? Will the long suffering and destitute Indians (largest number of absolut poor in the world) get answer as to why Billions of Dollars were wasted in the effort to coerse Pakistan? I doubt very much if any answer will be forthcoming from the Hindu fanatics - but that is for indians of good will to ponder.
All the while, Musharraf, is feted, lionized in the US - gets standing ovations, is sought out to address the American think tanks and media outlet -
Hindu fanatics must, because it is their part of their agenda, to raise the temperature with Pakistan, The international community, especially Amnesty international cannot post inspectors in captive kashmir, they cannot monitor the so-called ``free and fair`` elections, the Indian hopes to engineer in captive kashmir. We should be vigilant, the indian will start some mischief soon.

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British Indians turned off flight from Spain for they ‘looked suspicious’

Press Trust of India

Madrid, Sept 13: Four Britons of Indian origin were prevented from returning home to UK because a number of fellow passengers on their charter flight thought they looked suspicious and threatened to leave the aircraft, Madrid daily El Pais reported on Friday.

The newspaper said the four men, whose travel documents were in order, were victims of ``September 11 syndrome``.

Tsk, Tsk - really sad, no, arjun - but they must have muslims

Another smart move by India. Basically give access to all the foreign diplomats who want to see the elections in Kashmir while officially maintaining policy of not extending ``formal invitation`` that would undermine our own Election Commission. Our sovereignity should be guarded zealously while allowing those who are interested to see the fairness of the process. :

http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=241899

EC permits visits by envoys during
J&K polls, advances poll timing
Shahid K Abbas in New Delhi

The Election Commission on Friday announced that foreign diplomats would be given access to polling centres in Jammu and Kashmir during the Sep-Oct assembly elections.

It has also decided to advance the poll timing to 0700-1600 hours IST (from 0800-1700 IST announced earlier).

``For a request, the Commission has issued special passes to 28 diplomats to visit the polling centres,`` Deputy Election Commissioner and official EC spokesman A N Jha said.

The countries that had sought these passes are US, UK, Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the representative of the European Commission, he said

...holy $hit...this is so sad...when, why, and how did this ferozk fellow become a fanatic?....

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Vajpayee should have been in Gujjrat - attending a service for more than 2000 Indians, fellow Indians burned to death - because they were of the wrong confession.

A QUESTION OF DESTINY,

With in a span of fifty years, two countries with common heritage have evolved so differently. Vajpaye wqas in new york attending a service for the twenty indians who died, while in pakistan, al jareeza was interviewing the masterminds of the terror attack. In itlay 15 pakistanis were getting arretsde for al quaida links.

No romair or ylh wants to tlak of the values that brought about this difference