Were We Too Hijacked by 9/11?

{{The `C4` part is telling though. }}

Actually in this case, it`s not. The C4 does not have a cryogenic stage...C4 is just a continuation of the numbering scheme. The first three Developmental launches were D1,D2,D3 and then next four launches have been named C1,C2,C3 and C4. (C for commercial? i`m not sure.)

And PSLV was always capable of launching to GTO (not GSO)... only smaller payloads. The uprated PSLV-C4 has been able to launch the 1060Kg METSAT. Further, ISRO argues that with some more modifications (but still without a cryogenic stage) the PSLV can be used as the launch vehicle for the proposed moon orbiter as well.

The GSLV (with cryogenic upper stages) will continue to be developed for heavier communication satellites.

rsaxena,

***{PSLV-C4 successfully launched}***

With GSLV`s success, I thought ISRO reached the end of its goals...but looks otherwise.

The original PSLV can reach 1000 km. So I was surprised to read that this one attained 36000 km (geo-synchronous). The `C4` part is telling though. That means they replaced the 4th stage of the original PSLV (which is a liquid motor) with a Cryogenic motor (thus the `C` and `4`).

If mid-sized PSLV can attain 36000, that`s great news! (I miss ISRO!)

cheers,

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Rejoinder to #49:
``...However, a Pakistani embassy official in Rome said there was no evidence the arrested men were Pakistanis and said his embassy had been allowed no access to the suspects to find out...``
Deja vu?
http://in.news.yahoo.com/020912/137/1v5h6.html

...neat...

{PSLV-C4 successfully launched

The Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle-C4, carrying the 1060 kg METSAT -- India`s first dedicated meteorological satellite -- soared into the azure sky at 1557 hours (IST) on Thursday, from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre from Sriharikota.

Carrying for the first time a 1000-kg plus payload, PSLV-C4, an improved version of India`s workhorse PSLV, injected the METSAT into a Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit 21 minutes after lift-off.}

Soon Italians will be joining Indians in accusing Pakistan of cross-border terrorism:
Police in Sicily have announced that they have arrested 15 Pakistanis on charges of conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism. (BBC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2253097.stm
What did Italy do to provoke Pakistanis` ire? Host the Pope?

Reply Ferozk, Nasah #36

“Personally, what is stopping the Americans from invading Iraq is the ``morning after`` syndrome. Attacking and defeating Iraq is not an American worry. Garrisoning Iraq for the next few years is a concern, which is causing the Bush administration to ponder the imponderable consequences of their action.”

Ferozk, Nasah, excuse me for jumping in, but IMO…

Domestic politics wise it would be very difficult for the US to actually quit Iraq after invading it without installing some sort of a democracy – and the “Hosni Mubarak won 98% of the Egyptian vote” type democracy wouldn’t stand up to the media’s scrutiny either. The consequences of a (large) genuine Arab democracy would be quite destabilising on much of the ME (can you imagine? Saudi next to a genuine democracy? With freedom of speech?) – so a democratic Iraq is contrary to (currently dominant) US interests in the short to medium term.

“Correct me if I am wrong, it seems that the above mentioned concern is slowly trickling into the American awareness and is causing the American public to question the tune played by the Bush-Chenny-Rumsfeld-Wolfwitz quartet.”

I think the ``aftermath must be democratic`` thing is more likely what is giving the US cold feet. The Administration, and those who contributed to its election fund, don’t suffer because of spending (so long as the country accepts it as necessary, for eg on the war on drugs) – on the contrary they profit from it. (jobs, promotions, contracts.) As someone who has worked for a Beltway Bandit, just MHO.

I get the feeling that the situation in Iraq is not comparable to Lebanon – with multiple private armies hardened by years of conflict, and several motivated against the US by religious conviction – if only because Saddam doesn’t tolerate these. The only exception to this are the Kurdish militias – who, for their own reasons, are unlikely to take on the US.

“The Taliban were removed, because they could not secure the country, end the factionalization of Afghanistan and create a peaceful environment, which would have allowed Unocal - the American oil company - to build an oil pipeline from CAR via Afghanistan to Multan and then onwards to India.”

Vaisai, that sounds like a good reason to get rid of them.

Regards.

Reply Frangki Khush #44

“Who is the real enemy of the entire humanity?”

Khushbai, I am guess…..Padro AlmodOVar for tharty thousands dollar…no, no, I am think….

…Frunkenfarter from Rocky Horrors Fillum Show, na….

…or maybe…Karl Poppers?

Oh…truck question, haiN?

But Iknow, iknow.

Answer is: DEEPKA!

I win!

Slaam!

(Idonut thinking Deepka is really enemy of the ENTIRE humantys, ok. I am think your question is little munhoos for this reasons. Yous hould saying eighty/niney parcent, then I tis ok. nowi tis not very niceness. YOush ouldapolgise to Deepka.)

Re: Dost-Mittar
``...it will also change for ever the rule of engagement in the world affairs...``
No, it won`t. The `rules of engagement` have always been the same -- might is right. And might has been accumulated by democratic societies (not by accident but because ideas, including technology, flow and faster in democracies) better Need proof -- read `Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power` by Victor Davis Hanson

Who is the real enemy of the entire humanity?

Read on! and check yourself if you are still shamelessly wiggling your Ba Ba Blacksheep fatass?

``The worse form of slavery is when the slave believes that he has his own mind---and turns against his own kind to persecute them. A satisfacory pat on his back is all he seeks from the master. ``--F_K

``(White) house nigger Mushharraf is awfully proud to be part of the anti-``terrorist`` program---because the WhiteyMaster has decreed it. It never occured to him before that.``----F_K

``Should war break out in the Middle East again,... or should any Arab nation fire missiles against Israel, as the Iraqis did, a nuclear escalation, once unthinkable except as a last resort, would now be a strong probability.``
Seymour Hersh

``Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches.`` Ariel Sharon

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Israeli Weapons of Mass Destruction: a Threat to Peace
by John Steinbach
DC Iraq Coalition, March 2002
Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca, 3 March 2002

With between 200 and 500 thermonuclear weapons and a sophisticated delivery system, Israel has quietly supplanted Britain as the World`s 5th Largest nuclear power, and may currently rival France and China in the size and sophistication of its nuclear arsenal. Although dwarfed by the nuclear arsenals of the U.S. and Russia, each possessing over 10,000 nuclear weapons, Israel nonetheless is a major nuclear power, and should be publically recognized as such. Since the Gulf War in 1991, while much attention has been lavished on the threat posed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, the major culprit in the region, Israel, has been largely ignored. Possessing chemical and biological weapons, an extremely sophisticated nuclear arsenal, and an aggressive strategy for their actual use, Israel provides the major regional impetus for the development of weapons of mass destruction and represents an acute threat to peace and stability in the Middle East. The Israeli nuclear program represents a serious impediment to nuclear disarmament and nonproliferation and, with India and Pakistan, is a potential nuclear flashpoint (prospects of meaningful non-proliferation are a delusion so long as the nuclear weapons states insist on maintaining their arsenals). Citizens concerned about sanctions against Iraq, peace with justice in the Middle East, and nuclear disarmament have an obligation to speak out forcefully against the Israeli nuclear program.

re: India`s muslims
Indian muslims are different from Pakistani muslims. Most of us in India know that. How different are they? Why is it that ,out of all those muslims interned in Montama Bay, not even one is from India? How come Indian muslims outside Kashmir do not empathise with Pak on Kashmir, a very emotional issue for the Pakistanis ? The following article tells it all.

http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/15072002/1507200219.htm

Despite this difference, we find Pakistanis shedding crocodile tears at the loss of muslim lives in Gujarat while thousands of Bihari muslims dream of coming someday to the ``land of the Pure``. Talk of hypocrisy!
Sridhar

#30 by emthree on September 11, 2002
FK: Who is Hussain Nasr? Thanks
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Please access:
www.nasr.org

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Arjun_m # 23,
How did you get the idea that I wanted US to import more from pakistan? My post showed no concern to that issue.
Adios

Re: nasah

Yaar, what happens if Bush invades before elections? LOL

Personally, what is stopping the Americans from invading Iraq is the ``morning after`` syndrome. Attacking and defeating Iraq is not an American worry. Garrisoning Iraq for the next few years is a concern, which is causing the Bush administration to ponder the imponderable consequences of their action.

Correct me if I am wrong, it seems that the above mentioned concern is slowly trickling into the American awareness and is causing the American public to question the tune played by the Bush-Chenny-Rumsfeld-Wolfwitz quartet.

Re: Drdr

The Taliban were installed to get rid of the warlordism, which was hurting the trade and to lower the cost of transporting goods between CARs, Iran and Pakistan.

The Taliban were removed, because they could not secure the country, end the factionalization of Afghanistan and create a peaceful environment, which would have allowed Unocal - the American oil company - to build an oil pipeline from CAR via Afghanistan to Multan and then onwards to India.

Taliban were removed, because they could not deliver the economic bonaza the Americans were hoping for and that was, establish peace in Afghanistan that would have allowed the Americans to transport CAR/Caspian crude via the shortest distence instead of building a pipeline via Turkey.

Ciao