Zia Ahmed September 13, 2002
#19 Posted by hobbes on September 15, 2002 8:10:02 pm
The Pakistani left is so out touch with the people of Pakistan it`s sad how ineffectual they have opted to be - such an abdication of responsibility. On Chowk, readers may imagine that the armed forces of Pakistan are despised by ordinary pakistanis - but the truth is that generally, they are held in high esteem by ordinary Pakistanis.
The Pakistani left has in reality one goal, that is to see Pakistani society fail - in this failure will be their realization of a ``tabla rassa`` - they theorize. This same thinking has failed in all places where it was implemented. It is to the credit of Pakistan that they are tolerated and even given an opportunity to govern.
DOes it pay to be related to a army general in Pakistan? Does it pay to be related to a bank vice president? Does it pay to have connection in society? Duh?
#17 Posted by harimau on September 15, 2002 5:15:56 pm
Ref Hydra #10
[Binalshibh Captured in Pakistan
Imagine if Bush had chosen Atal over Musharaff...
Atal & bush would be just wringing there hands together !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only b/c of Musharaff war on terrorism is sucess so far........... ]
For one whole year after WTC, who do you think helped Binalshibh hide? And in what country?
Now can we all believe when RAW says that Osama bin Laden is alive and well and living in Pakistan?
[Binalshibh Captured in Pakistan
Imagine if Bush had chosen Atal over Musharaff...
Atal & bush would be just wringing there hands together !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only b/c of Musharaff war on terrorism is sucess so far........... ]
For one whole year after WTC, who do you think helped Binalshibh hide? And in what country?
Now can we all believe when RAW says that Osama bin Laden is alive and well and living in Pakistan?
#16 Posted by LadyAna on September 15, 2002 3:00:04 pm
I don`t think in 1971 that ``the destruction was mutual`` (between Pakistan & Bangladesh). More one-sided, no?
#15 Posted by rsaxena on September 15, 2002 7:18:20 am
...has urstruly been arrested and/or deported yet?...
#12 Posted by harimau on September 14, 2002 5:11:30 pm
Ref Hydra #7
[Nincompoop the Mianwalla case in Pakistan 6 people got Death Sentence .How many of your criminal who killed 2000 (just as much as 9-11) in gujjuriots,got even jail time ,dude???]
The 2000-strong Muslim mob that burnt the train in Gujarat has not been sentenced either. (Don`t tell me you have already forgotten the fact that Islamist thugs started the whole thing. Never start something that you can`t finish.) So, the Hindus and Muslims are just about even, I think.
By the way, do you think the courts have any validity in Pakistan? How about that poor girl who was shot dead in the offices of Asma Jahangir? her parents who ordered her killing are yet to be arrested. Oh, her mom is a gynecologist and her dad is the president of the Chamber of Commerce. I suppose their modern education has led them out of 7th century barbarities such as tumbling walls on wayward girls and instead humanely shoot them.
[READ HARAMI OU]
Right there you have identified yourself as the Hydra.
[?s split personality was on full display this week. While the reverberations of India Fashion Week, with beautiful Indian girls in their scanty dresses walking down the ramp...]
Would you rather have them wear a burqa?
Note to Chowk editors: I noticed that there are times when as soon as I open up Chowk, it says ``welcome harimau`` even before I sign on and then the name disappears. Is this a bug? Are you using cookies to identify visitors to Chowk? If so, how is 12-head still able to post under multiple nicks?
[Nincompoop the Mianwalla case in Pakistan 6 people got Death Sentence .How many of your criminal who killed 2000 (just as much as 9-11) in gujjuriots,got even jail time ,dude???]
The 2000-strong Muslim mob that burnt the train in Gujarat has not been sentenced either. (Don`t tell me you have already forgotten the fact that Islamist thugs started the whole thing. Never start something that you can`t finish.) So, the Hindus and Muslims are just about even, I think.
By the way, do you think the courts have any validity in Pakistan? How about that poor girl who was shot dead in the offices of Asma Jahangir? her parents who ordered her killing are yet to be arrested. Oh, her mom is a gynecologist and her dad is the president of the Chamber of Commerce. I suppose their modern education has led them out of 7th century barbarities such as tumbling walls on wayward girls and instead humanely shoot them.
[READ HARAMI OU]
Right there you have identified yourself as the Hydra.
[?s split personality was on full display this week. While the reverberations of India Fashion Week, with beautiful Indian girls in their scanty dresses walking down the ramp...]
Would you rather have them wear a burqa?
Note to Chowk editors: I noticed that there are times when as soon as I open up Chowk, it says ``welcome harimau`` even before I sign on and then the name disappears. Is this a bug? Are you using cookies to identify visitors to Chowk? If so, how is 12-head still able to post under multiple nicks?
#11 Posted by harimau on September 14, 2002 5:11:30 pm
Ref Hydra #10
[Only b/c of Musharaff war on terrorism is sucess so far...........]
You think Mushy could then stop the infiltrators into Kashmir?
[Only b/c of Musharaff war on terrorism is sucess so far...........]
You think Mushy could then stop the infiltrators into Kashmir?
#8 Posted by arjun_m on September 14, 2002 6:42:09 am
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#6 Posted by harimau on September 13, 2002 9:02:41 pm
Ref Salwar #4
[None of these stories live to see the US papers........]
The vernacular newspaper ``Dinamalar`` (literally, ``Daily Flower``) reported it with big headlines. The lead-in stated: ``We have heard of such barbarity only from Pakistan but it also happens in Madhya Pradesh...``.
The fact remains that while the woman was sentenced to be raped, she was able to escape and get justice from the courts. Therein lies the difference.
[None of these stories live to see the US papers........]
The vernacular newspaper ``Dinamalar`` (literally, ``Daily Flower``) reported it with big headlines. The lead-in stated: ``We have heard of such barbarity only from Pakistan but it also happens in Madhya Pradesh...``.
The fact remains that while the woman was sentenced to be raped, she was able to escape and get justice from the courts. Therein lies the difference.
#4 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on September 13, 2002 7:23:34 pm
None of these stories live to see the US papers........
Daniel Lak, BBC correspondent in Delhi
A court in India is considering taking action against a village council accused of ordering a woman to be raped.
The woman accuses elected councillors of ordering that she be raped by five men after she was accused of sexual misconduct in a public meeting in Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh.
Women often face abuse and oppression in India
The court in Jabalpur has ordered local officials to submit their version of events.
Some of those officials have denied any wrongdoing but have yet to explain the situation in court.
The woman in question says the rape did not take place after other villagers intervened.
Court order
The woman, a married 27-year old teacher, has asked the High Court in Jabalpur to take action against her local council.
She told an Indian satellite TV news channel that young schoolchildren were forced to give evidence against her in a public meeting, alleging that she had had illicit sexual relations with a man in the village.
She says she was ordered to pay a large fine or be raped.
The council and local officials have denied doing anything wrong but earlier this week, the High Court of Madhya Pradesh ordered various government officials to give evidence in response to the allegations.
Compensation
The woman`s lawyer says she is entitled to compensation because her constitutional rights have been violated.
There have been previous cases in that part of India and brutal punishments ordered by local councils or political leaders over women accused of sexual misconduct, but nothing like a rape.
Women`s rights activists say rural women in many parts of India suffer daily indignities and cases like these are firm evidence of their low status in village society.
Daniel Lak, BBC correspondent in Delhi
A court in India is considering taking action against a village council accused of ordering a woman to be raped.
The woman accuses elected councillors of ordering that she be raped by five men after she was accused of sexual misconduct in a public meeting in Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh.
Women often face abuse and oppression in India
The court in Jabalpur has ordered local officials to submit their version of events.
Some of those officials have denied any wrongdoing but have yet to explain the situation in court.
The woman in question says the rape did not take place after other villagers intervened.
Court order
The woman, a married 27-year old teacher, has asked the High Court in Jabalpur to take action against her local council.
She told an Indian satellite TV news channel that young schoolchildren were forced to give evidence against her in a public meeting, alleging that she had had illicit sexual relations with a man in the village.
She says she was ordered to pay a large fine or be raped.
The council and local officials have denied doing anything wrong but earlier this week, the High Court of Madhya Pradesh ordered various government officials to give evidence in response to the allegations.
Compensation
The woman`s lawyer says she is entitled to compensation because her constitutional rights have been violated.
There have been previous cases in that part of India and brutal punishments ordered by local councils or political leaders over women accused of sexual misconduct, but nothing like a rape.
Women`s rights activists say rural women in many parts of India suffer daily indignities and cases like these are firm evidence of their low status in village society.
#3 Posted by Godot on September 13, 2002 6:46:48 pm
satyavadi, #2
Those who don`t change with time, perish. The sad evidence of it is the Islamic world, from Indonesia to Morocco.
Those who don`t change with time, perish. The sad evidence of it is the Islamic world, from Indonesia to Morocco.
#2 Posted by satyavadi on September 13, 2002 2:49:27 pm
Not about the article:
Can Chowk revert to the old interface and format? Whats with these girly colors and clunky formatting. The makeover sucks.
Satyavadi
Can Chowk revert to the old interface and format? Whats with these girly colors and clunky formatting. The makeover sucks.
Satyavadi
#1 Posted by nooralain on September 13, 2002 2:01:43 pm
Asad`s mono M word responses, and those too in the form of questions heighten the disconnect here.
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