What I Saw In Okara

prem
`I may be wrong, but I have a strong feeling that I am not. The gentleman truly is dumb`

LOL

ive met the gentleman twice and he is quite dumb..once was about 7-8 years ago when he was starting off his shaukat khanum campaign and one recently..he is sincere, well mannered, has just the right amount of obnoxiousness, charm and arrogance to attract those willing to be attracted..but if u talk to him for a while, he`s overall quite stupid..he banks too much on himself: how people will believe what he says because he says it..he doesnt understand why ppl wouldnt want him keeping im mind his sincerity i.e. all he has done for the nation, won us the world cup (he actually said that once i red in an interview somewhere) made the hospital etc...so while he is probably our only chance at a decent honest (not to mention sexy) ruler, he knows nothing about ruling and being a leader from what i can tell...but one cant help and feel really bad for him..aik tau he means well and then he just sounds and looks so nice :(
hope all is well with you
anNy

pmishra -- while u missed the demented headlines of the pakistani media i certainly did not miss your demented remarks on this forum -- hahah

From DAWN


Imran, Jemima hostile to Islam, Chaudhries clean politicians: PML-QA`s fits of insanity- LAHORE: Sept 23:

Imran, Jemima hostile to Islam, Chaudhries clean politicians: PML-QA`s fits of insanity- LAHORE: Sept 23: The PML-QA command has decided to file a reference with the Election Commission of Pakistan against Tehreek-i-Insaaf Chairman Imran Khan. This was announced by PML-QA Punjab Secretary Information Kamil Ali Agha while addressing a Press Conference at Muslim League House. He said through the reference, the Election Commission would be asked to take notice of Imran Khan and his wife Jemima Khan`s activities which are hostile to Islam. He said Imran Khan has become a security risk; and through the reference, his source of income and personal character in the light of Article 62 and 63 of the Constitution are also being raised. The PML-QA leader said that the party is also issuing a white paper against PPP Parliamentarians through which their black deeds would be highlighted. He went on claim that there is no corrupt man in the PML-QA which has neat and clean leadership at all levels throughout the country. He, however did not specifically mention as to when this reference will be filed and what relief the PML-QA will seek from the Election Commission in this respect. (Courtesy: THE STAR) (Posted @ 14:50 PDT)

There can be little doubt that Imran Khan is well-meaning, has made significant positive contributions in a number of areas, and is far less likely to be corrupt than many other politicians.

That may well be reason enough to vote for him. I personally won`t make that choice, but I am not in Pakistan. The best judge of such things will always be the average Pakistani - the small shop keeper, the office goer, the day laborer, the housewife (or househusband), the farmer. It is their native wisdom that we must learn to respect.

I have often wondered why people become corrupt. I am told that Nawaz Sharif, Benazir Bhutto, and Imran Khan share one common trait - they are all filthy rich. The same is true of many so-called leaders in India. Why do these people need more money, particularly money acquired at the cost of selling their souls to the devil? If it is drive for power motivating them, one can gain more power by giving things away than by hoarding silly trinkets that money buys.

In any case....

And I am in perfect health. Thank you.

LOL anny!
The friday times has a funny top ten reaons this issue about Imran that is worth a look. In any case, Imran is not very intelligent and he is very arrogant as well. Running a cancer Hospital is different from running a country, but arrogance and lack of intelligence are far from the exlusive preserve of Imran, to his credit at least he doesn`t have their other trait of corruptability..just yet!

Hmm I hope Omair isnt reading this..I`ve started defending Imran Khan!!!

Just curious about about apprehensions expressed in Pakistani newspapers about `pre-poll rigging` and `King`s party`?

Suppose there is a healthy turnout and there is no `significant` ballot box stuffing, would people indeed choose to vote for only the military- `approved` candidates? One would think BB/ NS or others should at this time be issuing strident and repeated calls to vote to ensure a good turnout.

american express 56

Here is a defining moment for the pak society, a proud moment for the educated pakistanis like you.

A young girl was killed by her own parents in the office of a well known human rights activist, asma jahangir. Un like the indian news report you quoted, the police declared that it is a common paki past time caleed honour killing. No one was arrested, police refused to file a case.

The entire democratically elected parliment with nawaz as prime minister passed a resolution supporting the non- criminality, read favourite past time, of honour killing.
Nawaz aws overthrown by a military dictator. With in the first three months he invited the parents, the killers for a photo shoot into his office, once again up holding the essential values of pakistanis like you. ( on chowk there is an article, 100 days of mushy and read about honouring of the killers by mushy)

My dear american express, here waht we have in pakistan is the killing as a legitimate sport. If you are a pakistani, you should know that honour killing is defined by the brutality and the public display of the crime. That is what makes it legal, and it is the mullah who declares the killing as related to honour, no police action. Learn about pakistan before reading indian news papers.
Read and be proud of the pak legal system that every pakistani is so proud, the great military ois proud to defend, the one every kashmiri is looking forward to.

Ref Zero-Credit #5620, 2002 8:47am PT
[Sanghi Parivar are killing for Infedility ...read the news below ?
http://www.mid-day.com/news/city/2002/september/32056.htm
A man killed his pregnant wife last night suspecting her of infidelity and surrendered to police. Police said Mahendra Atmaram Mayekar (36) was married to Prajakta (29) in December 2001.
Last night, when the rest of the family members were out of the house for Ganpati immersion, Mahendra slit his wife`s throat with a sickle, killing her on the spot, police said.
He then locked the main door, went to a nearby police chowky and confessed to the crime, police added.]
A man killed his wife because he thought his wife was cheating on him? In India, that would be a case of murder and the killer even promptly confessed to the murder, making his trial simple.
In Pakistan, this would be honor killing and the police would not arrest the man even if he confessed. Why, Musharraf might meet with the man for a photo session, like he did with the parents of that girl murdered in Asma Jahangir`s office.
I am curious, would you want the husband to have called the local mullah to pronounce the sentence of death by stoning and then collected a crowd to carry out the punishment?

Prem, anNy,
Please define dumb. If dumb is the abscence of enough political savvy to know say what the people want to hear (``no new taxes``, ``roti, kapra makaan for everyone in six months``, and ``freedom for Kashmiris`` in two) then yes, I agree Imran is `truly dumb`.
Ok, so he`s not the smartest man in the whole wide world. Guess what, you don`t HAVE to be-- not in a sitaution like Pakistan`s where the only real solutions are tough and lie in getting the basics right and dropping the BS about instant salvation (which, btw, Premji, is exactly, what most `common` Pakistanis, it appears, WANT to hear no matter how many times the like of NS and BB pull the wool over their eyes. Pakistani political sentiment is dictated way too much by familial affiliation to the `dynasties`. Whatever `dissent` is shown comes in the form of abstinence rather than the honest look for alternatives. That, more than anything else may be the tradegy of that heroic figure Imran khan.
So tell me, anNy, if Imran Khan knows nothing about `ruling`, which of his opponents have demonstrated or indicated a higher aptitude, such as to explain his relative unpopularity?
rgds,
PM

#55

Like PM said, ``define dumb``. Is it because his ``looks`` tend to get women all sweaty, his pretty wife tends to them all jealous, and they expect him to be some Scarlet Pimpernal-type hero spewing verse and rescuing citizens?

Get real. He`s just as smart or dumb as the rest of us, and just as human. I detest it when people talk about his (or anyone else`s) personal affairs - he married a ``jewess`` (btw not true, and even if he did, so what), he married for money, blah blah.

The guy built a hospital, in case u all forget. A FREE cancer hospital.. for hundreds and thousands of people. How many of u smarty-pants did that recently?

He played a game that thousands of people love, and won for his side so many times. He gave laughter, smiles, joy, happiness, and a future to many many people. WHAT MORE DO U WANT?

In today`s day and age, if a person like that cannot be called a leader, NO ONE deserves to be called a leader.

Everyone makes politics out to be this dirty dirty game, and it has gotten to that level simply because of smart people like u all.

We need leaders who will give people light, and hope, and reach out and touch them on a personal level. Not monsters.

For ALL the wonderful things he has given the world, Imran Khan is the smartest bestest man alive, because he has shown that he cares. So there! :P

# 61 Prem

U are SO right.