A Classical Revival?

Stuka,
Check under Jade DuBoir & AJ Khan.
While you`re at it, search for Minnie Gupta o ASU. She was in playboy & she`s gorgeous!

Verghese

``Equally funny is the fact that these people did not choose to object to the fact that a porn star is named Indie or India or whatever? ``


Hmmm, and how would you know that??? :) Kidding...the Porn star is called India...one Indian programmer I know went ballistic trying to scour Desi porn on the web and his initial searches threw up an Arfican-American porn star. LOL

Quite the compliment I think it is. BTW, have you heard of that well known Arab Porn star : Sheik MyBoob

``I was referring to the mass rapes commited by communalist Muslim hating lynch mobs in Gujarat and the repeated references to sexual molestation in the discourse of hate mongers eg: Ali1.``

I`` am sure the Amritsari Air force men are jolly good chaps but you must know that they arent the problem in India at the moment. ``

Okay, I was on a totally different plane. You are talking about hatred for communities, individuals etc. The rage I am talking about is against the Pakistani military-jihadist establishment. Though, the latter does turn into rage against individuals/people as well if there is no people to people contact. We, in the west are lucky that way, coz we all meet and interact as individuals. I wouldn`t be so quick to judge a bigoted Indian or Pakistani if they have no individual concept of the ``other``.

Also, not being a very religious person myself, I find it very difficult to even conceptualize relationships/ pre-concieved notions built on religion alone. Have an easier time doing it in terms of culture, nationality and the like. That`s why I misunderstood your post the first time round.

[[ #100 by Harpreet
SatyaVadi;

That wasnt humour it was expressing my contempt at real obscenity.

Anyway, sorry for the cock up (oops!) you wilting petal.
]]]

Here is my post:
[[There is a way to make a point without using gutter language. Its too easy to get carried away in your own self righteousness.]]

Whoever said it was humor? Clean shaven you might be, but a Surd you still remain.

Cheers!!
Satyavadi

Reply Stuka #89

“BTW, WOMEN DO START WARS. Think Indira Gandhi, Maggie Thatcher, even Golda Mier.”

Whut you are say? HaiN? If Indira Gundhi is womon, so is Deepka. Ha! Everybodys are know that Magret Thatcher etc were big Macho only.

Harpreet,

Ha ha, very funny that analogy of rockets and what-have-yous. One clarification though: cock$ are weapons of mass creation whereas rockets are weapons of mass destruction :)

Umer M.

Stuka;

[It is easy to convert real issues into some sort of a joke, but to say that the popular rage against Pakistan is fuelled by some sort of sexual inadequacy is misleading.]

- I was referring to the mass rapes commited by communalist Muslim hating lynch mobs in Gujarat and the repeated references to sexual molestation in the discourse of hate mongers eg: Ali1. And my general point stands, that misogynistic societies are the most backward societies, and there is a close correlation between the two phenomena, of objectification of women and repression therein and the ease with which hatred for other groups is disseminated. Because the subjugation of women in the cloak of culture or religion and tradition impedes general societal progress. It is the mentality of the feudal master who focuses his rage on the other...castration is a good metaphor for the paranoiac hysteria that is masked by Hindutva or Islamism or whatever.

It is all MALE rage.

I am sure the Amritsari Air force men are jolly good chaps but you must know that they arent the problem in India at the moment.

-h-

SatyaVadi;

That wasnt humour it was expressing my contempt at real obscenity.

Anyway, sorry for the cock up (oops!) you wilting petal.


-h-

Pankaj;

I am not a pacifist, and I am not such a big fan of Arundhati Roy. Please explain Steven Pinker though, I am not aware of him??

-h-

Verghese:

“I cannot help recollecting this humorous incident. It seems the Pres or the VP has a dog named India.”


…dubya has a cat named india…

Harpreet, Samina

Patanjali (I think) said (I paraphrase): The Gods delight in places where women are revered, but where women are not revered all (religious) rites are useless.

Walk in beauty (wib) doooooooooooooooooodes

re: Pankaj # 95

``the cause of anger amongst a lot of Indians against Pakistan is to a large extent genuine.``

A good post, but you know well that many Pakistanis feel exactly the same way about India. We may claim that their belief is based on disinformation, but that argument is unlikely to cut ice with many Pakistanis. After all, their belief about the culpability of India in Pakistani affairs is as strong and genuinely felt as is ours about Pakistan`s culpability in Indian affairs.

This is what I call the ``uselessness of information`` - additional information does not necessarily change people`s minds: it is simply discarded if it does not gibe with people`s prior beliefs. Since that is a generic argument, I expect it to be applicable to both Indians and Pakistanis.

If you ask me personally - me as a person with personal biases - I would say that Pakistani army uses this extremely effective ``information stonewalling`` in a masterful way, much to the detriment of Pakistani people. But you see the trouble - the same argument can be switched and applied to the other side, so that no learning takes place even at this level of abstraction. Isn`t that wonderful? :)

Aur nahi bhai, I am no social scientist! I am just intrigued by men, women, and their socities.

Regards.

Harpreet

``On independance day, the models of Gauris and Prithvis in the parades should be replaced with models of Vajpayees and Musharaafs cocks. They should raise models on roundabaouts and in schools of these missiles, the great powerful cocks of our leaders, who has the biggest one, one with hood, one without. These are the priapic toys and joys of our nations, look at the beauty and size of our leaders cocks. We will blast you to kingdom come with these nuclear cocks of ours. ``

Ha ha. Dear, dear, let`s not get too carried away by our own analogies. Btw you seem to be reading a lot of Arundhati Roy methinks :-). Okay, on a sober note, the cause of anger amongst a lot of Indians against Pakistan is to a large extent genuine. Not everybody is afflicted by ``castrated frustated feudal master`` syndrome. The grievances are real and not something created by our politicians or their Generals. And you do need to have a solid defence if you want to enjoy the fruits of freedom.


``Women wouldnt fight each other. They have more sense. ``
Steven Pinker wouldn`t agree with you:-); I mean on the cause...


``Misogynistic, macho cultures will always be backwards.``
Very true. Infact the status of a women in a society is a better social indicator of development than all the other fancy criteria. Yatra Naryastu pujyante, ramante tatra devatah. And the same is true for the macho cultures. People who try to show off excessive machismo are basically the ones who dont have confidence in their own capabilities...But a little knowledge of game theory and the world history also tells me that the alternative is not a ``feminine`` culture. A strong nation should always strive for peace but should be nevertheless prepared for a disastrous war. The nations which swing to the either side- ie being too ``macho`` or being too ``feminine`` , are condemned to suffering and possible annihilation.

Harpreet and the Lingams of various people:

There is a way to make a point without using gutter language. Its too easy to get carried away in your own self righteousness.

Satyavadi

Harpreet #86

I hear you.

I cannot help recollecting this humorous incident. It seems the Pres or the VP has a dog named India. So what do the keepers of India`s honor do in the streets of Bombay - they name a dog Bush or something.

Seriously - I am not sure who should be angry or may be angrier - India for having a dog named after it or its neighbor which was apparently not considered for that honor.

Equally funny is the fact that these people did not choose to object to the fact that a porn star is named Indie or India or whatever?

Sridhar:

``While a Punjabee is comfortable in his sherwani``

Hain??? Punjabis don`t wear Sherwanis. That is the dress of some other people, I think Pakistanis of UP origin. Nehru wore a Sherwani, but that`s coz his family was influenced by UP culture. I go to Punjabi weddings, nobody wears Sherwanis. Everyone wears suits. Occaisional Salwar Kameez, or as Temporal says Shalwar Kameez.