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Truth Hurts

Hira Nabi September 18, 2002

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#46 Posted by LadyAna on September 21, 2002 2:27:04 pm
Umm.. another thing. I haven`t watched the movie (I`m assuming it`s Addictive). But why for the love of God does it ``hurt``? I mean, we ``easterners`` have been wearing undergarments, jeans and tee shirts like forever na? In the East, I don`t think people used to wear bras and undies a long history ago. So, that`s a good thing, ain`t it, that the west gave us this etiquette. And they (westerners) sure as hell didn`t have any problem with us using their ideas and stuff. So, when it didn`t hurt them to see us adopt their cultures, why does it hurt the author to see them adopt ``our`` stuff? We all still live on the same planet, don`t we? Or am I missing something here??
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#45 Posted by LadyAna on September 21, 2002 1:56:04 pm
Chowk has smileys now? Jeez. :rolleyes: And this used to be a high-funda site. It`s like totally bigRufied now. (bigard - spoil).



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#44 Posted by anNy on September 21, 2002 12:21:14 pm
noorie, harpreet
you guys lagaofying english nice n proper...jaldying please and ublofying and taizing are personal favourites..once heard little 6 year old cousin with strong roots in bombay say smthg like `mamma drive car more taizing no warna roadaan par kaaraan ka rush lag jaain ga and we`ll be late..`...go figure that out
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#43 Posted by Naqshbandi on September 21, 2002 11:33:54 am
The difference between Abrar ul Haq and the Brit-Asian pop [paap!?!]/bhangra/God-knows-what-it-is! singers is that he sticks firmly to his own roos and language and doesn`t try to be a black gangsta from the East Coast at the same time. The same is true for Indian Punjabi singers like Gurdaas Maan. It is the mixing of genres from totally opposite cultures and music styles which I am against. It ruins both! )IMHO).

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Drums--I have heard enough of this type of music to have an opinion --so whether I have heard a particular singer or not is irrelevant; the arguments still apply to the archetype.

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#42 Posted by Prem on September 21, 2002 11:33:54 am
re:Dost-Mittar # 39

Don`t you think Chowk should REQUIRE all its interactors to pass an exam on the basics of simple data analysis, hypothesis testing, and Baysian reasoning?

Heck, that shouldn`t be so hard as passing a graduation examination!
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#41 Posted by nooralain on September 21, 2002 11:33:53 am
harpreet..
as long as the ideas are ublofying..there is hope...mine seem to be thandofying, or should i say they have thandofied!
:D...like the `wickedly mengaa-fied`.
noor
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#39 Posted by Harpreet on September 21, 2002 7:20:03 am
nooralain

The writing is coming out in fits and starts...but the ideas are ublofying in my brain nicely...

:)


[More fusion in languages, like ublofying and karoing, and one we used often as children when we would stare at each other..`why are you takoing?`]

- I was in a department store in Birmingham afew weeks ago and this 16 year old Punjabi girl was looking at a pair of expensive shoes for like £200 pounds and said ``No way man...thats wickedly Mengaa-fied!!``

(mengaa= expensive)

-h-

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#38 Posted by semipreciousme on September 20, 2002 10:42:48 pm
…the song, albeit with a colorful video and catch beat, is nothing much to write home about…missy e’s subtle use of the sitar in “get your freak on” was, imho, much better…

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#37 Posted by roohi on September 20, 2002 9:33:01 pm
Dost #33

Right you are re: Do Boond Pani ... Pital ki mori gagri, Dilli sheher se mol mangai ... a big fave of mine is from that movie !
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#36 Posted by nooralain on September 20, 2002 2:21:03 pm
reading previous posts, i had to chuckle when i read, `look dekho aasman sky, pigeon kabootar udan fly`...i haven`t heard that in years! great way to learn two languages, na? More fusion in languages, like ublofying and karoing, and one we used often as children when we would stare at each other..`why are you takoing?` :)
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#35 Posted by nooralain on September 20, 2002 12:41:51 pm
ZafarA
[Fadela’s voice rules]--doesn`t it just though? N`sel Fik is one of my favorite songs. I agree with you about her later stuff not being as good...Khaled falls somewhat in that respect as well.

Harpreeto...
Hi baby right back at you. How`s the writing going? How am I? Interesting q. jee, will let you know when I`ve figured it out :)....and as those old colorful trucks, and my dad said, last i saw him...`khair naal aa, te khair naal ja!`

Stuka,
I knew that both about Mami and Ofra Haza...they used to play her `Galbi` (among other songs) at nightclubs here. Like her stuff as well.
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#34 Posted by Prem on September 20, 2002 12:41:51 pm
re: Dost-Mittar # 32

You are a genuinely good person; and THAT is very scary for those whose every waking moment is dedicated to waging 1000 year wars with their shadows.

I, on the other hand, have just not been evil enough :(
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#31 Posted by stuka on September 20, 2002 8:47:37 am
I don`t get this. Why is the author ``hurt`` by the fusion of Western and Eastern culture? The author says:

``Watching ‘Addictive’ hurt. Yes, it did. Our culture being embraced by ‘foreigners.’ Watching the ease with which they carried it off. Is nothing sacred anymore? Motis, cholis, gota even our thumkas and jhatkas…things, which are held so close to one’s heart. Things taken for granted. But loved all the same. ``

Why does it hurt to see your culture being adopted by firangis. Why be so mean spirited about our culture that we refuse to share it? Our motis and thumkas are still sacred to us, and hey, if others enjoy it so much the better, doesn`t take away the value of those things from us.


And Scout is right about Missy Elliot. Damn Scout, you`re quite ``with it`` I must say :)

And from a previous board, an Agnostic does not deny God, that`s an atheist. You can simply be agnostic about organized religion.

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#30 Posted by stuka on September 20, 2002 8:47:37 am
``The 500 million dollar suit states that Truth`s lyrics offend Hindu culture (what the fukk does that mean?). ``

??? Damn!!! What the hell is that??? The Guardians of Hindu Culture have no idea what offensive is till they listen to me recite the Gayatri Manter in my Punjabi Accent with Trance music playing in the background. Now THAT hurts.
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#29 Posted by stuka on September 20, 2002 8:47:37 am
``Thus compare poetry and music from the Punjab: though both Punjabi the music and poetry of Muslim Punjab `West Punjab` is of a spiritual nature whereas that of the non-Muslim punjab is mostly of a carnal and sensual nature. ``

Accha?? Then how come rate of population growth in ``Muslim Punjab`` or West Punjab as I prefer to call it is so much higher than ``East Punjab``...looks like that may have to do with a bit of carnality and sensuality, right???

Also, to get an idea of Pop culture from West Punjab, listen to Abrar Ul Haq, esp songs like Majajani and Billo Dey Ghar. If you get offended, and wanna listen to some religious/nationalist Music, the same guy also sang ``Allah Allah Allah, Yeh Pyara Pakistan``, which is actually a pretty cool song, though I`m sure you find it understandable if I`m not a big fan of it`s lyrics. :)
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#28 Posted by stuka on September 20, 2002 8:47:36 am
Noor Alain:

Mami is Algerian. Maybe Mami was being confused with Ofra Haza, who is Israeli.
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