Truth Hurts

Mami is Israeli!!! Ohmigoodness, this is news to me. Mami is Algerian. He sings of his `bledi` Al-jazay`r. from whence came this information that he is Israeli??? With his gorgeous voice, it wouldn`t matter if he was from Antarctica...but someone should get their facts straight. Mami was born and raised in Algeria :). I love Rai music...especially Khaled, Mami and Fadela!

Dost-Mittarji – First Ali_1 calls you poisonous, then Mr Nasbandi accuses you of carnality (taubah!) – what have you done to offend these people?!!

Nooralain

“I love Rai music...especially Khaled, Mami and Fadela!”

Fadela’s voice rules…sadly I like her earlier stuff better (N’Sel Fik, Hana Hana)…later stuff is too smooth and…a bit vapid…

Reply Prem #13

[``Truth`s lyrics offend Hindu culture (what the fukk does that mean?)``
“Can`t stop laughing......DRUMZ`s inimitable, unerring words”]

Mashallah. What more can one say?

Reply Harpreet #8

…when I was growing up in Birmingham half my school were goray and kale and lots of them could speak Punjabi because we would teach them the swearwords…”

If it`s not too much of an inconvenience, would you be so kind as to provide Punjabi dialogue for Ali G interviewing Cherie Blair/Margaret Thatcher?

Lets not ignore that a lot of this East/West fusion (who gives a fukk about Kipling`s foolish azz) has taken place for hundreds of years in he Caribbean. Reggae (RAGA) and Soca have subtle NDN themes. CHUTNEY Music is mainly West Indian and uses NDN beats/instruments (see this at any W. indian club).

Asif: If i recall correctly, Asian Dub Foundation did a song WITH Nusrat so i dont know what the hell ur talking about.

``Why on Earth Pakistanis and Indians in the UK want to dress like and behave like NY gangters is something which completely puzzles me!``

People generally live by the culture which is prevelent in their day/place. Of course western desi`s would dress western (WHY are we discussing this)???

PS: Does Sufism tell u to speak on things u ADMITTEDELY know NOTHING about (she sang neither rap nor reggae). Please check urself before acting all holy on a computer. And isnt Music HARAM?

Zafar;

hehehe!! Loads of people thought that Ali G was a Pakistani when he first came out, they said he was a Pakistani taking the mickey out of wannabe gangsters and it turns out he`s a dark skinned Jew from Hampstead!!

nooralain;

Hello baby how are you?? I like your new name.

DRUMZ;

You crack me up man. Did you ever hear of this New York punk band the called the MC5?? The name of their album reminds me of you: ``Kick out the Pricks, Motherf*****s!!``

Yeah and you are right ADF are a phat band

(But Nashqbandi wont like them because they are all Hindus...)

Nashqbandi;

I totally agree with you. Pakistanis in England should be very weary of associating themselves with non Muslim Punjabis...we are like the pied piper of hamellin who with our boliyaan and dhols and bhangras will turn Pakistani boys and girls into whisky~drinking, sex~crazed bacon~eating maniacs!! Our plans have been foiled.

(From now onwards I appoint DRUMZ to answer every point you raise on my behalf, because he is the man...)

take care

-h-

Guys - Hindustani Classical Music is fusion too ... so are violin recitals in Carnatic Classical Music and Indian Film music has been ripping off western tunes (and story lines) for ever so why get worked up if the pendulum is swinging the other way now ? BTW to the ``aaja nach lay`` = east punjab music/culture ... hello ? .... ever heard of Gurbani ?

How`s this for Desi-Western integration:

``Udan Kabootar Pigeon Fly

Look Dekho Asman Sky``

and ``Take na hai to Take, nahi tey aglee dukan vekh``

Noor Alain:

Mami is Algerian. Maybe Mami was being confused with Ofra Haza, who is Israeli.

``Thus compare poetry and music from the Punjab: though both Punjabi the music and poetry of Muslim Punjab `West Punjab` is of a spiritual nature whereas that of the non-Muslim punjab is mostly of a carnal and sensual nature. ``

Accha?? Then how come rate of population growth in ``Muslim Punjab`` or West Punjab as I prefer to call it is so much higher than ``East Punjab``...looks like that may have to do with a bit of carnality and sensuality, right???

Also, to get an idea of Pop culture from West Punjab, listen to Abrar Ul Haq, esp songs like Majajani and Billo Dey Ghar. If you get offended, and wanna listen to some religious/nationalist Music, the same guy also sang ``Allah Allah Allah, Yeh Pyara Pakistan``, which is actually a pretty cool song, though I`m sure you find it understandable if I`m not a big fan of it`s lyrics. :)

``The 500 million dollar suit states that Truth`s lyrics offend Hindu culture (what the fukk does that mean?). ``

??? Damn!!! What the hell is that??? The Guardians of Hindu Culture have no idea what offensive is till they listen to me recite the Gayatri Manter in my Punjabi Accent with Trance music playing in the background. Now THAT hurts.

I don`t get this. Why is the author ``hurt`` by the fusion of Western and Eastern culture? The author says:

``Watching ‘Addictive’ hurt. Yes, it did. Our culture being embraced by ‘foreigners.’ Watching the ease with which they carried it off. Is nothing sacred anymore? Motis, cholis, gota even our thumkas and jhatkas…things, which are held so close to one’s heart. Things taken for granted. But loved all the same. ``

Why does it hurt to see your culture being adopted by firangis. Why be so mean spirited about our culture that we refuse to share it? Our motis and thumkas are still sacred to us, and hey, if others enjoy it so much the better, doesn`t take away the value of those things from us.


And Scout is right about Missy Elliot. Damn Scout, you`re quite ``with it`` I must say :)

And from a previous board, an Agnostic does not deny God, that`s an atheist. You can simply be agnostic about organized religion.

re: Dost-Mittar # 32

You are a genuinely good person; and THAT is very scary for those whose every waking moment is dedicated to waging 1000 year wars with their shadows.

I, on the other hand, have just not been evil enough :(

ZafarA
[Fadela’s voice rules]--doesn`t it just though? N`sel Fik is one of my favorite songs. I agree with you about her later stuff not being as good...Khaled falls somewhat in that respect as well.

Harpreeto...
Hi baby right back at you. How`s the writing going? How am I? Interesting q. jee, will let you know when I`ve figured it out :)....and as those old colorful trucks, and my dad said, last i saw him...`khair naal aa, te khair naal ja!`

Stuka,
I knew that both about Mami and Ofra Haza...they used to play her `Galbi` (among other songs) at nightclubs here. Like her stuff as well.

reading previous posts, i had to chuckle when i read, `look dekho aasman sky, pigeon kabootar udan fly`...i haven`t heard that in years! great way to learn two languages, na? More fusion in languages, like ublofying and karoing, and one we used often as children when we would stare at each other..`why are you takoing?` :)