Unraveling Pakistan: Taming The Shrew-Mare

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#5 by pmishra2 on October 9, 2002 2:03pm PT

``And what of LK Advani? Your
proposal will leave him bereft of any agenda, he can no longer just sit
on his ass and grumble all day about the bad, bad Pakis.``

Hey, we can ship him off to lead Pakistan once someone has belled Musharaff the cat. He is technically a Pakistani, right?

Tahmed32

Indeed. My condolences and sympathy.

#4 by stuka on October 9, 2002 1:16pm PT
Temporal:
``The people of Pakistan should demand that senior military officers get the same salaries and perks that the officers of the Indian Army get....no land grants, no deputations to civilian posts, no foreign postings...``
Well said.
I read somewhere in an Indian newspaper how an Indian General was asked by a Pakistani journalist how he and other Indian generals fared compared to Pakistani generals, considering the latter were ``gloriously rich``. ``Gloriously poor`` was his answer!
Sridhar

hobbes: Still trying to construct a legible sentence, I see.

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So unlike utopians! - lets neuter the armed forces? Why, misery love company?
So unlike Utopians - destroy it all, lets star all over again, a clean slate!
Oh, and that India thing - get your behind in Gujjrat and help out those people - and then there may be credibility to your ``concern``.

#21 by nasah on

[… when the Thief is the Chief -- and the Chief Justices are Thief`s chelum orderlies -- where the CC will takes it case -- in whose court?…]

---nasah sahab yeh pakistan hey…yahaaN court-wourt ki nahiN chalti hay…welcome to this pakistan where the power flows from the barrels…

hypothetically two scenarios are possible:

a: those barrels can be blocked/stolen and re-targeted at the perpetrators

b: the bare-chested awam come forward in droves offering them as targets…no army...in the present day context can contitnue to openly butcher its civilian populace at will and survive the international wrath for long...

#22 by Layman:

[…I am not sure however, if it is not wishful thinking…]

---wishful thinking?…you and I were a glint in our parent’s eyes once!…all movements (loathe to call this a movement) do start as an idea before other forces sweep them away…this is an idea am floating among Pakistanis…

#24 by sac: on October 10, 2002 7:01am PT

[…Pakistan is a modern day Rome where the Ceaser of the time allows his gladiators to fight amongst themselves with HIS set of rules. The public watches the gory spectacle and goes home to its miserable existence day in and day out. These things can last for a long long time…]

---yes they can last a long time…and they HAVE lasted a long time…and like the pressure cooker with no safety valve…the time may be sooner my friend…

mattress?…how ‘bout sleeping bag?

#35 by dost-mittar:

bhai aap aur hum sub kabhi kisi ki ankhyouN main chamak (glint) thay!…yeh khaab aisa hay jis ki taabeer ashadd zaroori hay…haaN aap baja farmatay haiN…is dafa gar haath aaga`aye ghalat logouN kay tou woh log under kar kay chaabi phank daiN gay!

#36 by tahmed32:

[…A bold, honest, and undoubtedly a painful article for the writer…]

---‘writer’?….hmmmmm……itni bayzaari?;)


…anyway, thank you and others who have participated here…

rgds,

t

This ought to shut up Field Marshal Romair who used to claim that Pakistanis never elected any Islamic parties to their National Assembly and how Musharraf is just the right person to lead Pakistan away from fundamentalism and into the modern world. From BBC:

[Islamic parties surge in Pakistan poll

Islamic fundamentalists have made a strong showing

Anti-American Muslim fundamentalist parties are making a surprisingly strong showing in Pakistan`s general elections.
With more than a third of the results counted, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), or United Action Front, has won at least 27 seats.]

The Field Marshal must now come forward with a statement explaining why the MMA is better than the BJP. Please also explain how the MMA is a progressive party that will carry Musharraf`s flag of modernization forward.

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A bold, honest, and undoubtedly a painful article for the writer. But you are right. The Pakistan military has become a problem. A big problem. No way should Musharraf be allowed to live out his dream of ruling Pakistan on the strength of guns. The religious nuts in Pakistan are the creation of the military, and are flourishing since Musharaff realizes that only by invoking the spectre of nuclear-armed religious nuts in Pakistan can he continue getting international support for his usurping of power in Pakistan. The Pakistani people have gotten rid of one military dictator before (Ayub Khan). They can do it again. Again, a salute to you for saying what is increasingly in the hearts of all true Pakistani patriots.

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temporaloo..
aap ne farmaya: ---what is the alternative for a country that has nuclear weapons?...we have to get US and others onboard if this clean-up and good-riddance operation has any chance of success...---

Will have to think of alternatives...but given what has happened in Latin America, in Nicaragua, and what is about to happen in Iraq any day now...the question of how Uncle Sam will get onboard remains.

banjara

thanks for the correction.

I think raqs is a metaphor in this case for Ishq. (But my omission was not deliberate)

# 25 & # 30

Tu ke na waaqif-e- adaab-e ghulami hai abhi
raqs zanjeer pahen kar bhi kiya jaata hai

Ras

``Ishq zanjeer pehn kar bhi kia jaata hay``

....but you gotta have Ishq.