Riffat Jahan November 20, 2002
#82 Posted by tahmed32 on November 23, 2002 11:46:18 am
Romair: Actually I would tend to join you in commending Musharaff for putting on the Jamali Fig Leaf. Certainly an improvement over the naked use of military power. And certainly good to see Maulana Fazloo denied his aspirations to becoming the Fig Leaf.
More seriously, if Musharaff continues steadily to promote the growth of healthy politics in Pakistan (meaning with basic freedoms of the people assured, with checks and balances within the government strengthened), then some of us may join you in your praise for this man. I fear that aint gonna happen, though.
More seriously, if Musharaff continues steadily to promote the growth of healthy politics in Pakistan (meaning with basic freedoms of the people assured, with checks and balances within the government strengthened), then some of us may join you in your praise for this man. I fear that aint gonna happen, though.
#83 Posted by tahmed32 on November 23, 2002 11:46:18 am
khamkhwa #72 It appears from your statement that you believe there is a positive correlation between military rank and tidy writing.
Hmmmm.....
Hmmmm.....
#84 Posted by meet_taimoor on November 23, 2002 12:27:55 pm
Bravo!! Coming Direct Dil Se... (or dimagh se?)
Anyway! A very well written piece of work!
Anyway! A very well written piece of work!
#85 Posted by hamidm2 on November 23, 2002 12:27:55 pm
this might help explain romair`s point of view
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23614-2002Nov21.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23614-2002Nov21.html
#86 Posted by nasah on November 23, 2002 1:38:05 pm
````LKAdvani has said in parliament that India will always be secular.`` (rsridhar)
If a Masjid Vandal and a miscreant like Advani -- can by civlized by the rigors of Deputy Prime Ministership -- there is hope for the Bamiyani Vandal Fazlurrahman Abu Omar -- when he takes the NEXT Prime Ministership of Pakistan -- sometimes soon.
If a Masjid Vandal and a miscreant like Advani -- can by civlized by the rigors of Deputy Prime Ministership -- there is hope for the Bamiyani Vandal Fazlurrahman Abu Omar -- when he takes the NEXT Prime Ministership of Pakistan -- sometimes soon.
#87 Posted by khamkhwa. on November 23, 2002 3:44:01 pm
tahmed32#73&80
Janaab-e-wala,
I have a great deal of respect for all humans specially the ones in khaki.
The rank came into question because of this prediction:
(I had predicted he would go after the mullah brigade, when everybody said he was a part of that brigade like Zia. And he did.)
To my knowledge none of the mullahs arrested after 9/11 is in jail or under house arrest,and I know for a fact that a gentleman officer of Pak army does not lie. As for my question mark on ``racistly hate``,it was a new word for me and has nothing to do with tidiness ;)
Janaab-e-wala,
I have a great deal of respect for all humans specially the ones in khaki.
The rank came into question because of this prediction:
(I had predicted he would go after the mullah brigade, when everybody said he was a part of that brigade like Zia. And he did.)
To my knowledge none of the mullahs arrested after 9/11 is in jail or under house arrest,and I know for a fact that a gentleman officer of Pak army does not lie. As for my question mark on ``racistly hate``,it was a new word for me and has nothing to do with tidiness ;)
#88 Posted by Ras on November 23, 2002 3:44:01 pm
Attended a gathering where Husain Haqqani spoke in Berkely recently.
Will send a ``politically incorrect`` version to CHOWK soon.
``Enough is enough``
Ras
#89 Posted by tahmed32 on November 23, 2002 6:53:51 pm
khamkhwa #88 Thank you for the explanation sir. It makes things worse, unfortunately, when you say that ``The rank came into question because`` of Romairs incorrect claim that Musharaff went after the mulah brigade and that you ``know for a fact that a gentleman officer of Pak army does not lie``. Exactly what rank does an officer need to reach before he becomes a gentleman-who-cannot-tell-a-lie? Is it when he receives the ``lal fita`` (full colonel an above), or is it from the day he recieves his commission?
And how about all those below the line? I assume they are advised that the are not gentlemen and so may lie whenever they please.
In any case, it is nice to know that we are being ruled by truthful gentlemen who perform a coup d`etat faster than Nur Jehan used to change lovers.
(Sorry to give you a hard time, but seriously - all men really are equal, whether they are generals or mere lance naiks).
And how about all those below the line? I assume they are advised that the are not gentlemen and so may lie whenever they please.
In any case, it is nice to know that we are being ruled by truthful gentlemen who perform a coup d`etat faster than Nur Jehan used to change lovers.
(Sorry to give you a hard time, but seriously - all men really are equal, whether they are generals or mere lance naiks).
#90 Posted by SameerJB on November 23, 2002 6:53:51 pm
Some worth reading articles from todays News and Nation are by Humayun Gauhar, Khurram Dastgir and Farrukh Saleem. Here is somethig interesting about Sardar Zafar Ullah jamali from Farrukh Saleem`s article:
[On the lighter side of the Prime Minister House, Ghous Akbar, the proud Pakistani joint-venture partner of McDonald`s, may soon be asked to build a McDonald`s right within the premises of the PM House. The House now hosts the biggest -- literally so -- Pakistani fan of the Big Mac. From among the 140 million Pakistanis spread over 778,720 square kilometres, Ghous Akbar is to become the largest supplier of fat, calories and cholesterol to the PM House. For the record, one Big Mac has 590 calories, 34 grams of fat and 85 milligrams of cholesterol. The PM`s standard snack of two Big Macs between meals means 1,180 calories, 68 grams of fat and 170 milligrams of cholesterol.]
As Humayun Gauhar said: ``Farce is piling upon farce`` for the last three years and continuing.
khamkhwa: It does not matter if Musharraf now dislikes mullahs because USA likes him now. The military-mullah nexus has been in existance for the last several decades. Field Marshal would not comment on the easing of graduation requirements for the sake of mullahs. The government directly interfered in many places to save mullah candidates from disqualifications by returning officer for not having anything closer to graduation degree. In the list of 102 seats to be rigged in Punjab and Sindh, not a single one effected a possible mullah victory.
[On the lighter side of the Prime Minister House, Ghous Akbar, the proud Pakistani joint-venture partner of McDonald`s, may soon be asked to build a McDonald`s right within the premises of the PM House. The House now hosts the biggest -- literally so -- Pakistani fan of the Big Mac. From among the 140 million Pakistanis spread over 778,720 square kilometres, Ghous Akbar is to become the largest supplier of fat, calories and cholesterol to the PM House. For the record, one Big Mac has 590 calories, 34 grams of fat and 85 milligrams of cholesterol. The PM`s standard snack of two Big Macs between meals means 1,180 calories, 68 grams of fat and 170 milligrams of cholesterol.]
As Humayun Gauhar said: ``Farce is piling upon farce`` for the last three years and continuing.
khamkhwa: It does not matter if Musharraf now dislikes mullahs because USA likes him now. The military-mullah nexus has been in existance for the last several decades. Field Marshal would not comment on the easing of graduation requirements for the sake of mullahs. The government directly interfered in many places to save mullah candidates from disqualifications by returning officer for not having anything closer to graduation degree. In the list of 102 seats to be rigged in Punjab and Sindh, not a single one effected a possible mullah victory.
#91 Posted by nasah on November 23, 2002 10:29:48 pm
The solemn occasion of Genral Musharraf administering oath to the prime minister-select Mir Jamali almost brought tears in our eyes especcially to see them stnding soulder to shoulder --
what a heartwarming sight!
aik hee suf meiN khaRe ho gaye mahmood-o ayaz!!!!
what a heartwarming sight!
aik hee suf meiN khaRe ho gaye mahmood-o ayaz!!!!
#92 Posted by faisaluno on November 24, 2002 12:48:00 pm
re tahmed32 (post # 59)
your response is typical of a kgs/kas democrat who has never missed a meal in his life and who probably never took the time to find out about the life of the driver who came to class each day after school ended to carry chotay sahibs basta. any idea of price of mutton in karachi? how much do you think does it costs to visit the neighborhood general practitioner? how about the price of a litre bottle of johnnie walker black in karachi? do you think the peon who works for habib bank and makes pkr 8,000 p.m. and supports a family of 7 including his sick mother really gives a rats a$$ about who is sitting on the throne in margala. do you honestly think having the prince of darkness lording over the current cast of whores will make pakistan a prosperous country twenty years down the road? and do you seriously think that the prince will voluntarily hold elections that will return a government that will throw his a$$ back where it belongs? might be a moot issue if you are one of those people who has benefited for the prince’s legendary generosity to his friends.
#93 Posted by S.P.Wakil on November 24, 2002 12:48:01 pm
tahmad #90
I am holding my breath to see the Pakistani counterpart [of sorts; after a fashion, that is] of the old ``Peter Principle``.
#94 Posted by faisaluno on November 24, 2002 12:48:01 pm
re tahmed32 (post # 59)
your response is typical of a kgs/kas democrat who has never missed a meal in his life and who probably never took the time to find out about the life of the driver who came to class each day after school ended to carry chotay sahibs basta. any idea of price of mutton in karachi? how much do you think does it costs to visit the neighborhood general practitioner? how about the price of a litre bottle of johnnie walker black in karachi? do you think the peon who works for habib bank and makes pkr 8,000 p.m. and supports a family of 7 including his sick mother really gives a rats ass about who is sitting on the throne in margala. do you honestly think that having the prince of darkness lording over the current cast of whores will make pakistan a prosperous country twenty years down the road? and do you seriously think that the prince will voluntarily hold elections that will return a government that will throw his ass back where it belongs? might be a moot issue if you are one of those people who has benefited for the prince’s legendary generosity to his friends.
#95 Posted by faisaluno on November 24, 2002 12:48:01 pm
re tahmed32 (post # 59)
Your response is typical of a kgs/kas democrat who has never missed a meal in his life and who probably never took the time to find out about the life of the driver who came to class each day after school ended to carry chotay sahibs basta. Any idea of price of mutton in Karachi? how much do you think does it costs to visit the neighborhood general practitioner? How about the price of a litre bottle of johnnie walker black in karachi? Do you think the peon who works for habib bank and makes pkr 8,000 p.m. and supports a family of 7 including his sick mother really gives a rats ass about who is sitting on the throne in margala. Do you honestly think having the prince of darkness lording over the current cast of whores will make Pakistan a prosperous country twenty years down the road? And do you seriously think that the prince will voluntarily hold elections that will return a government that will throw his ass back where it belongs? Might be a moot issue if you are one of the people who has benefited for the prince’s legendary generosity to his friends.
#96 Posted by rsaxena on November 24, 2002 2:12:13 pm
re: faislauno
...how`s that ``military`` government in south korea doing?...
...how`s that ``military`` government in south korea doing?...
#97 Posted by SameerJB on November 24, 2002 7:21:02 pm
S. P. Wakil: How are you doing? Long time no interaction.
Remember ``khar-e-mugheelaN lai bahar, te mele mitraaN de``.
Remember ``khar-e-mugheelaN lai bahar, te mele mitraaN de``.
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