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Games Generals Play

Nafees Ghaznavi November 24, 2002

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#7 Posted by jay on November 24, 2002 10:54:55 pm
Gaznavi,

Another rant, repeated a thousand times. It is the educated confused pakistanis based in the west are worried about the generals. One has to look at it in terms of ground reality in pakistan, in terms of the demographics.

Half the population are women, they in any case have no role in anything other than producing children, which they are doing a good job. Of the remaining males, 30 percent are children, less than 18, another 20 percent are old and good for nothing types. That leaves only 25 percent of the population of some political susbstance.

A large part of them can be employed in the military and military related activities like making corn flakes ( hamidm fame). Remaining can be involved in the army of god.

This the emerging final shape of the beast created by one man on a typewriter. The educated like you have to ask the question, what is wrong with this, and this can survive till blasted to smitherin as part of war against terror. Instead of repeating what so many others have said, why cant you try and address the fundamental problem of jihadic value system that drives men to join the military, military of the generals, or that of god.

The presence of the american troops and the IMF noose is a good opportunity for pakistan to change only if the educated take the lead and show a way forward by declaring that the hindoos need not be killed for pakistan to prosper. Or at least as a first step, try and remove the school requirement of hindu identification.

While the generalas have only learned to withdraw, at least the army of god are manking some wins, LET and mujahideen have claimed responsibility for the temple attacks. The amry of gods of pakistan can be proud, what have the generals to show of.
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#6 Posted by SameerJB on November 24, 2002 10:09:29 pm
nasah: The logic for supporting Musharraf given in this article or often presented by field marshal beats me. It is a standard line that politicians were bad, Asif Zardari 10 percent, baRi tind choti tind, 15th amndment and so onand ending up with statement that this one is a good general, rest were bad.
Don`t they realize that three COAS before this one saw all this what they are basing their arguement upon and preferred not to overthrow civilian governments. They were Asif Janjua, Wahid KakaR and Jahangir Karamat. I suppose they were not good because they opted not to do what Musharraf did.
Second point is their claim that this chowkidar is good. Chowkidar is a chowkidar at the bank. A good chowkidar at the door has no right to kick out manager because he thinks manager is no good.
Musharraf Ghaznavi is not going to sell his plots to pay Firdausi for writing Shahnama. One previous dictator wrote, ``Friends, not Masters`` and Musharraf will have his book, ``Friends not, Masters`` soon.
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#5 Posted by nasah on November 24, 2002 7:40:31 pm
this Firdausi speaketh with a forked tongue -- like before -- your shahnama will do u no good -- your Ghaznavi WILL BE PROSECUTED -- this time -- for destroying the Temple of Democracy
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#4 Posted by rozaiba on November 24, 2002 7:21:02 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2509463.stm

unfortunately all we get is stale, cowardly generals from an incompetant who can`t even piss properly.
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#3 Posted by rozaiba on November 24, 2002 4:40:48 pm
obviously the faujiz will have the last laugh. they have successfully barricaded any institution from evolving. no country can succeed without independent institutions.

i guess the faujiz can afford to have a free `fourth pillar` of the state. when all the other major foundations have been ripped apart, the press is incapable of representing the people on its own- no matter how good it is.
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#2 Posted by nooralain on November 24, 2002 4:14:12 pm
as a grown-up (!) looking at pictures from her first six years of childhood spent outside of Pakistan..I always wondered why there was a picture of Ayub Khan on our wall...I have no recollection of it being in our apartment in Minnesota. I still don`t understand why it was there. I have heard more jokes about Yahya`s wine and women than I have about his competency in leading a country. I never had any respect for a surma-rimmed man who suggested on national television that non-Muslims convert to Islam, and whose idea of competency in leading a country was the promotion of jahiliya..the more things change..the more they stay the same. Am still waiting and hoping for the dawn...it`s been darkness for far too long, and these eyes are getting old.
thank you Nafees Ghaznavi.
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#1 Posted by SameerJB on November 24, 2002 3:39:22 pm
One major difference, author forgot to mention. Musharraf is the only one who resurrected himself following dismissal and risen to the Presidency. Now it is upto MQM to grant him virgin birth too. No, no, no! I take that back because virgin birth will exclude him from aslaaf.
By the way, Zia was also sitting back, relaxing and had the last laugh over the skies of Bahawalpur.
Does the author know what constitution says about grabbing power through back door? The dictator is a traitor and not a patriot.
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