Games Generals Play

One major difference, author forgot to mention. Musharraf is the only one who resurrected himself following dismissal and risen to the Presidency. Now it is upto MQM to grant him virgin birth too. No, no, no! I take that back because virgin birth will exclude him from aslaaf.
By the way, Zia was also sitting back, relaxing and had the last laugh over the skies of Bahawalpur.
Does the author know what constitution says about grabbing power through back door? The dictator is a traitor and not a patriot.

as a grown-up (!) looking at pictures from her first six years of childhood spent outside of Pakistan..I always wondered why there was a picture of Ayub Khan on our wall...I have no recollection of it being in our apartment in Minnesota. I still don`t understand why it was there. I have heard more jokes about Yahya`s wine and women than I have about his competency in leading a country. I never had any respect for a surma-rimmed man who suggested on national television that non-Muslims convert to Islam, and whose idea of competency in leading a country was the promotion of jahiliya..the more things change..the more they stay the same. Am still waiting and hoping for the dawn...it`s been darkness for far too long, and these eyes are getting old.
thank you Nafees Ghaznavi.

obviously the faujiz will have the last laugh. they have successfully barricaded any institution from evolving. no country can succeed without independent institutions.

i guess the faujiz can afford to have a free `fourth pillar` of the state. when all the other major foundations have been ripped apart, the press is incapable of representing the people on its own- no matter how good it is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2509463.stm

unfortunately all we get is stale, cowardly generals from an incompetant who can`t even piss properly.

this Firdausi speaketh with a forked tongue -- like before -- your shahnama will do u no good -- your Ghaznavi WILL BE PROSECUTED -- this time -- for destroying the Temple of Democracy

nasah: The logic for supporting Musharraf given in this article or often presented by field marshal beats me. It is a standard line that politicians were bad, Asif Zardari 10 percent, baRi tind choti tind, 15th amndment and so onand ending up with statement that this one is a good general, rest were bad.
Don`t they realize that three COAS before this one saw all this what they are basing their arguement upon and preferred not to overthrow civilian governments. They were Asif Janjua, Wahid KakaR and Jahangir Karamat. I suppose they were not good because they opted not to do what Musharraf did.
Second point is their claim that this chowkidar is good. Chowkidar is a chowkidar at the bank. A good chowkidar at the door has no right to kick out manager because he thinks manager is no good.
Musharraf Ghaznavi is not going to sell his plots to pay Firdausi for writing Shahnama. One previous dictator wrote, ``Friends, not Masters`` and Musharraf will have his book, ``Friends not, Masters`` soon.

Gaznavi,

Another rant, repeated a thousand times. It is the educated confused pakistanis based in the west are worried about the generals. One has to look at it in terms of ground reality in pakistan, in terms of the demographics.

Half the population are women, they in any case have no role in anything other than producing children, which they are doing a good job. Of the remaining males, 30 percent are children, less than 18, another 20 percent are old and good for nothing types. That leaves only 25 percent of the population of some political susbstance.

A large part of them can be employed in the military and military related activities like making corn flakes ( hamidm fame). Remaining can be involved in the army of god.

This the emerging final shape of the beast created by one man on a typewriter. The educated like you have to ask the question, what is wrong with this, and this can survive till blasted to smitherin as part of war against terror. Instead of repeating what so many others have said, why cant you try and address the fundamental problem of jihadic value system that drives men to join the military, military of the generals, or that of god.

The presence of the american troops and the IMF noose is a good opportunity for pakistan to change only if the educated take the lead and show a way forward by declaring that the hindoos need not be killed for pakistan to prosper. Or at least as a first step, try and remove the school requirement of hindu identification.

While the generalas have only learned to withdraw, at least the army of god are manking some wins, LET and mujahideen have claimed responsibility for the temple attacks. The amry of gods of pakistan can be proud, what have the generals to show of.

A NEW GAME FOR THE GENERALS,

There is a new game coming up for the generals. It will start after the fall of Iraq. Already the generals are in a tight fix, more of it will come shortly as the war on terror rolls on.

Attack on the temples in India, two organisations in pakistan have claimed responsibility. The new game for the generals will be tretty simple, whom to surrender to, to the amricans or the indians. India has with drawn the troops because of US troops in pakistan, they have assured a slow return of pakistan to the early days of the book. The genrals game should be to achieve this as quickly as possible. If the americans do not deliver this india will have to do it.

Slowly the indians are realising that the issue is not kashmir, it is jihad, and there can be no solution other than a promise to deliver shehdad at the door step of every jihadist, the israeli way.

First things first. There is no subsitute for democracy. Secondly, Pakistan is not a democracy; it is a timocracy. Lastly, remember the salute given by the gladiators to the Roman emperor prior to their deaths, but above all else, consider the words of St. Augustine as he wrote them in his book, ``The Confessions`` and then quote the words of Sir Thomas More, which he said to the British parliament that condemned him to death and end your mediations with the curse shouted by Oliver Cromwell to the Long Parliament.

Ciao

re: nooralain


{suggested on national television that non-Muslims convert to Islam}

...what else is new...don`t you see, he was trying to show you the ``true path``...to ``save`` you...

``Thus the General deserves to be applauded for forcing a semblance of democracy to the working of political parties. ``

These political parties had to choose their Army-bootlicker-in-chief by ballot? How democratic of Musharraf to ask them to do so!

``Also at no time was the media, particularly television so free and so lively (in political debates and interviews) as it is at present under General Musharraf.``

Why be pathetically grateful for something which is every Pakistanis citizen`s right ? Ask the Army why this didnot happen before and what are the bounds they have set on this `freedom`?

``A great deal more has to be done to make these ‘champions of democracy’ democratic, tolerant and transparent first.``

As long as the `champions of democracy` have to prostitute themselves for the Army agenda(which is not transparent, tolerant or democratic) donot expect things to improve.

``However the results of the elections have made it possible for General Musharraf to sit back, relax and have the last laugh.``

Yes, first Zardari was released then Hafiz Saeed of LeT and the Sipah-e-Sahiba guy. Thats the cost of the coalition. How many people are going to pay in blood for this government?

And why does he still look so worried? Nuclear proliferation blues or Osama blues?

This is truly great wisdom. I suggest that there should be a pakistani delegation that would go around the world explaining how only military generals can save democracy. This will need a lot of explaining as most of us na-pak people seem to think that democracy is something you have to build step-by-step and over time.

But, of course, now there is a chance to enlighten us stupid folks by explaining how Pakistan, the leader in human rights, equal treatment of minorities and good relationships with its neighbors, has created its special system of khaki-ocracy.

This article would truly be hilarious and an amusing demonstration of political illiteracy, if only the kind of thinking it embodies were not the cause of 100s if not 1000s of deaths in South Asia.

``General Yahya Khan was a soldier of wine and roses.``

Stories circulating about our mard-i-momin(s) speak of the gilded age of Mohammed Shah Rangeela being born afresh. Crore commanders are parcelling out firing ranges to each other. Pimps are pulling the strings for all major transfers. And drunkards have the country in a choke-hold. Pakistan`s eventual tryst with the mullahs gets closer and closer. Nothing but pain and suffering lies ahead.

later
-sac

sameer

````Friends, not Masters`` and Musharraf will have his book, ``Friends not, Masters`` soon``

............ that is precious!

sax...#10
your wisdom never ceases to amaze me. how could i not have known that he, and others I went to school with were trying to show me the right path to salvation...*slaps hand on forehead*
;)

i agree with the author. mush’s presence can provide stability to the system.. in my previous life, i was a banker in pakistan and this role provided me with the opportunity to interact with some of the top paki entrepreneurs during a period which saw the reign of messrs. zardari, shariff and musharrif. to a person, the biggest reason cited for slow pace of investment by these entrepreneurs was the inconsistency in the government economic policy. the other big complaint was the unending hassle of dealing with leeches in public sector organizations like cbr, kesc/wapda and customs etc. there is no point in commenting on zardri’s tenure. (zardari actually cut the power supply to our building for two weeks in the middle of june because the owner of the building refused to sell him the property) n.s. did propose some bold economic reforms but he never implemented the bold part of his agenda. instead he just spent his time hounding his opponents while appointing his corrupt cronies on top of public sector organizations. cronies in turn turned a blind eye to the rot at the bottom because they themselves had their hands in the till. even when n.s. appointed decent people to organizations like ubl, his cronies never gave them a free hand. remember saifur rehman’s campign against ubl? if i remember correctly, saifur rehman actually kidnapped the ubl loan officer who was hounding him for loan repayments. mush on the other hand, while deserving gobs of criticism for being very timid on the political front does deserve credit for bringing about a semblance of sanity to the economic house. it is important to remember that he took power at a time when the banking sector was suffering from a serious crises in confidence because of default on foreign currency borrowed from individuals and foreign banks. mush’s team also deserves credit for the skillful handling of the riba issue because this was something that was giving rise to a great deal of uncertainty. mush’s team also deserves kudos for not squandering the aid that has flowed in after sep 11. god knows what bb/ns would have done with the money.

while a lot of good work has been done on the economic front, the real challenge now is going to be how the administration responds to the shenanigans of democratically elected ministers who are going to demand their pound of flesh. and since most of these ministers would probably be in power in a setup even without mush, the issue of comprises with the corrupt political class is moot anyway. having a clean person at the top can hopefully limit the damage these ministers are going to inflict.