Standing Up to a Bully

Oh that`s great finally, I have found a Hindu who claims to know every thing. Arjun would you or any other Hindu who claim to be the world expert on terrorism would care to explain what is this:


http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm


what hit pentagon? If it was a boeng 747 then where the hell is its debris. And if it wasn`t a boeng 747 that hit pentagon then where the hell is the boeng 747 that was allegedly hijacked from logan airport with 163 of its passengers and if it wasn`t a boeng that hit the pentagon then there cannot be arab hijakers, couldn`t they. I want some answers before I deliver my guilty verdict

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further rantings of loony left media:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usoil0110,0,3745888.story

Plan: Tap Iraq’s Oil: U.S. considers seizing revenues to pay for occupation, source says
By Knut Royce, Special Correspondent
January 10, 2003

Washington -- Bush administration officials are seriously considering proposals that the United States tap Iraq`s oil to help pay the cost of a military occupation, a move that likely would prove highly inflammatory in an Arab world already suspicious of U.S. motives in Iraq.

Officially, the White House agrees that oil revenue would play an important role during an occupation period, but only for the benefit of Iraqis, according to a National Security Council spokesman.

Yet there are strong advocates inside the administration, including the White House, for appropriating the oil funds as ``spoils of war,” according to a source who has been briefed by participants in the dialogue.

``There are people in the White House who take the position that it`s all the spoils of war,” said the source, who asked not to be further identified. ``We [the United States] take all the oil money until there is a new democratic government [in Iraq].”

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re slave driver #16:

You haven`t answered any of my questions yet. Anyway let me keep giving you more rope.

``22% may sound like a low number but these are the people who vote``

And you actually went and asked these 22% if they voted or not. Maybe one of your minions on the bench is working on this project right now. Have you actually ever ventured out of your familiar environs of Edison and Jersey city to have an idea how diverse America really is and how insular the life of an ordinary American is?

Now stop googling and looking for articles to malign Muslims and Pakistan and start thinking. Stop looking at CIO magazine also. It doesn`t carry any dirty pictures.

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re slave driver #14:

``popularity determine relevance``

I see. Here`s another exercise for your towering intellect. What percentage of American public watches Fox or NBC or any other media outlet with any degree of regularity? What is the most popularly watched news program on any TV/cable channel? What does it mean in absolute numbers?

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P.S: The answer is not in CIO, your favourite magazine that already has severe doubts about your English skills.

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it is simplistic to blame uncle sam for every evil found in the muslim world. in many respects, uncle sam is similar to homer simpson. like homer, sam is well meaning (i.e. not evil) but dumb. like the travails of homer, sam`s well intentioned actions mostly produce disastrous results (ex. cuba, phillipines, vietnam, support for shah, mujahedin, zia, saddam, house of saud, india, likud etc, etc). homer has an insatiable appetite for donuts and he likes to stuff himself without realizing the consequences. similarly uncle sam has a huge love for oil (arising out of a love of money) and does all he can to insure a steady supply. this is not necessarily bad because it keeps the world economy lubricated. unlike the simpsons, sam controls the world like mr. burns controls springfield. therefore sam’s actions do 10 times the damage in comparison to the damage done by homer. on occasions however, homer does some real damage like when he floods springfield in the name of art.

in the simpsons world, muslims would be bart because bart does not play by the rules and cause grief to homer. tony blair would be abe ‘grand pa” simpson, a once proud veteran who is now reduced to muttering inanities. hindus would be smithers because smithers like banias tries to get a piece of the action by being swarmy and by sticking close to seth burns. u.n would be chief wiggam because of its ineffectiveness in resolving dispute of any consequence. what is missing from the current picture is the presence of marge because it is only she who can restore a bit of sanity to the current mess.

The ambiguosly gay duo of arjun_m and Jay need serious therapy. Here is the body-shop proprietor smugly informing us that village voice and the others are *irrelevant*. I dare him to inform us who actually owns the Village voice. If by some odd chance he does, I`ll be more than happy to help him shove his unattended foot where the sun never shines.

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sobia # 5, bat # 3

Whether you like it or not Musharaff agreed to US demands because he is scared to death of what USA might do to Pakistani strategic assets in tandem with Indian government.

I have no problem with the NY Times. Definitely they are pro-establishment, pro-Israel. They do report what goes on in kashmir, Palestine, Chechenya etc. There are plenty of columns opposing attack on Iraq, questioning the link between Al Qaida and Iraq etc. I could not say that for the Pakistani newspapers on the web. They also report on the Taleban, Pakistan`s Islamic parties, Pakistan`s nuclear exports to the North Koreans, Saudi financing for Wahabis. I am sure some of that has driven Pakistanis nuts.

bat # 3

If you like the regimes of Taleban, Iraq and North Korea feel free to live there. Or we can write letters to our local newspapers advocating all the illegal Pakistani immigrants be deported there.

I think Pakistanis care about Iraq, North Korea to the extent it gives them another state to trade nuclear technolgy with.

hi sobia, good to hear from you, i hear your back now -- arjun man frankly speaking your talking BS -- i dont think anyone is being hypocritical because we would take the same stand if this kind of stuff happened to indians or pakistanis or whoever -- thanks for telling me about the nation, mother jones and working for change and all, i know and read them all the time but in case you forgot to notice, the article deals with MAINSTREAM US MEDIA (DUH!) and in fact it mentions the websites that you mentioned in your post -- clearly u read probably the first paragraph and then wrote your rant -- the rest of your drivel i rather choose to not waste my time responding to -- and to the editors of chowk -- no offence but i really see no point in carrying an article that was submitted such a long time ago and which I later asked that it be withdrawn -- i mean this was written like six weeks ago --