And then God Spoke!
Zeejah January 22, 2003
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#24 Posted by cUtEhIjAbI on July 8, 2004 12:23:38 pm
i have to say that your experience shot my iman( faith)
sky high... although i know u have wrote this long ago.... i just came across it
i feel as if i am not alone in actually hearing and feeling Allah.
sometimes i forget that i saw miricles at one time
i glad there are others... like u... who share these experiences
if you care to read one of mine... it is called until that day in the unplugged section- fiction
it would be great for some feedback
thank you
ma
sky high... although i know u have wrote this long ago.... i just came across it
i feel as if i am not alone in actually hearing and feeling Allah.
sometimes i forget that i saw miricles at one time
i glad there are others... like u... who share these experiences
if you care to read one of mine... it is called until that day in the unplugged section- fiction
it would be great for some feedback
thank you
ma
#23 Posted by zeejah on January 27, 2003 6:18:06 am
LOL....no_more_a_slave ... it is interesting how ppl go on the defensive when they hear someone has studied psychology... most ppl ask me if i can see all the skeletons rattling in their closets...i cant...:)
but, on the other hand, it does allow one to see more than a lay person would see... ;)
Zee
but, on the other hand, it does allow one to see more than a lay person would see... ;)
Zee
#22 Posted by no_more_a_slave on January 26, 2003 3:21:40 pm
nasah # 19
You may know that the profession of psychology draws many people who themselves need pyshological help.
I would keep a good eye on children around.
You may know that the profession of psychology draws many people who themselves need pyshological help.
I would keep a good eye on children around.
#21 Posted by nasah on January 26, 2003 5:28:52 am
what is the poin of ur Abidi story -- Are u implying, Mr/Ms Slave -- that our Zeejah -- is travelling down the paranoia/schizophrenia road? --
she is a psychologist -- did u know that?
she is a psychologist -- did u know that?
#20 Posted by isinicina on January 26, 2003 5:28:52 am
You are right Zee… Being human, in the course time each of us forgets the feelings of humility and awe. Each of us thinks that all “miracles” (a smile of child, a rain in the Desert, a love in our hearts…) were or are only strange “coincidences”.
God always waits with patience for us to wish His Love again.
Never say Never. Never say “I don’t believe in His being…” Look about you, look into yourself! One day you will feel and know, God is in each of us, each of us is in God.
I`ve been reading the article this morning and am enjoying that very much.
God save us!
Irina Guschina
from Russia.
God always waits with patience for us to wish His Love again.
Never say Never. Never say “I don’t believe in His being…” Look about you, look into yourself! One day you will feel and know, God is in each of us, each of us is in God.
I`ve been reading the article this morning and am enjoying that very much.
God save us!
Irina Guschina
from Russia.
#19 Posted by isinicina on January 26, 2003 5:28:52 am
You are right Zee… Being human, in the course time each of us forgets the feelings of humility and awe. Each of us thinks that all “miracles” (a smile of child, a rain in the Desert, a love in our hearts…) were or are a strange “coincidences”.
God always waits with patience for us to wish His Love again.
Never say Never. Never say “I don’t believe in His being…” Look about you, look into yourself! One day you will feel and know, He is in each of us, each of us is in Him.
I`ve been reading your article this morning and am enjoying that very much.
Irina Guschina
From Russia.
God always waits with patience for us to wish His Love again.
Never say Never. Never say “I don’t believe in His being…” Look about you, look into yourself! One day you will feel and know, He is in each of us, each of us is in Him.
I`ve been reading your article this morning and am enjoying that very much.
Irina Guschina
From Russia.
#18 Posted by mbenzenglish on January 25, 2003 9:32:47 pm
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#17 Posted by no_more_a_slave on January 25, 2003 7:42:33 pm
Then Allah Really Spoke
http://www.irishabroad.com/news/breakingirish/olstory.asp?article=1934388
``Man claims spirits told him to hit his son
A Somalian man today admitted holding his baby son by the feet and hitting his head off a wall after evil spirits told him to ``hit him, hit him``.
Yusif Ali Abdi told the Central Criminal Court that he took 20-month old Nathan from his bed and killed him as the evil spirit `Jinn` was telling him to ``take him, take him, take him``.
As the accused told the court how he killed Nathan, the toddler`s mother Ms Amanda Bailey - Ms Abdi`s estranged wife - broke down and had to be helped from the courtroom.
Mr Abdi said he felt he was ``possessed`` when he heard the voices. Questioend by defence counsel Mr Tom O`Connell SC he said: ``I was like in sombody`s else`s body and I was just following the order...with the voice.``
Asked with what he felt possessed, the accused replied: ``By the spirit.`` He said the spirit, known by the Arabic name of ``Jinn`` was an evil spirit. He heard voices saying ``hit him, hit him.``
The accused, a Muslim, said he awoke at around 4am on the day of the killing for early morning prayer. After he heard the voices he went into the bedroom, where Nathan was sleeping beside his mother, and took him into the kitchen. ``I was holding him with [my] hands on the [child`s] feet.
The accused was handed photographs of the apartment and he identified a wall near the cooker where he had swung the child.
The court has heard medical evidence that Nathan died from gross brain damage and multiple fractures of the skull caused by severe violent impact.
The accused told the court he experienced paranoia and depression since arriving in Ireland from Somalia in June 1996. He had suffered persecution in Somalia and members of his family had been killed there.
The jury heard that he was seen by GPs and by the psychiatric services at Mater Hospital.
He agreed with Mr O`Connell that he had given the gardai a false account of the killing when he claimed it was an accident. He was afraid of the gardai following an incident in November 1999 for which he was convicted of assaulting a police officer.
Mr Abdi told the court he was ``still afraid of the garda``.
Asked how he felt after killing Nathan, he said he panicked. Then he felt ``a blanket of cold over me`` and the voices stopped.
Cross-examined by Mr Michael Durack SC prosecuting, he said he had heard the same voices many times prior to the killing but agreed he had not mentioned it to any of the psychiatrists.
Mr Durack quoted from a report from Dr Sheehan, psychiatrist with the Mater Hospital stating that while the accused had displayed some features of post traumatic stress, he found ``no evidence that of a depressive illness or psychosis``. This related to the period of November 1999 to February 2000.
Asked why he never told Dr Sheehan about the voices he replied: ``at the time I did not see the voices as a problem``.
Mr Durack then put it to the accused that a report from Dr Lynch, a GP, described the accused ``as essentially normal``. This was dated 6 April 2001, 11 days before the killing.
``I wasn`t feeling normal`` the accused replied.
``Did you ever tell your wife about the voices?``
``No`` he replied.
Mr Abdi agreed that when he had taken Nathan into the kitchen he had locked the living room door and his wife, Ms Amanda Bailey could not get in.
The accused said he could not remember if he and his wife had discussed custody of Nathan on the evening of the killing.
Asked what he did after he killed the child he replied: ``I think I prayed.``
Asked if he could hear his wife ``hammering on the door`` he said he did but he could not walk or talk while praying.
``Your child is seriously ill on the floor, your wife is knocking on the door, are you telling us that you it`s not permissible to interrupt your prayer to deal with that?`` asked Mr Durack.
``That`s right``, the accused replied.
The jury was told that Mr Abdi was detained initially in Cloverhill Prison but tried to injure himself twice. They also heard that he is currently detained in the Central Mental Hospital.
Mr Durack put it to the accused that he was moved to the Central Mental Hospital after an incident with a prison warder.
``Did you bite a prison officer?`` Mr Durack enquired, to which the accused replied:``I fought back``.
He claimed the prison oficer had shouted racist abuse at him.
``So you bit him?``
``I might have``, he replied.
Yusif Ali Abdi, (aged 30) with an address at The Elms, College Road, Clane co Kildare, has pleaded not guilty to the murder of Nathan Ali Abdi at College Road, Clane on 17 April 2001.
The trial continues on Monday.
online.ie
http://www.irishabroad.com/news/breakingirish/olstory.asp?article=1934388
``Man claims spirits told him to hit his son
A Somalian man today admitted holding his baby son by the feet and hitting his head off a wall after evil spirits told him to ``hit him, hit him``.
Yusif Ali Abdi told the Central Criminal Court that he took 20-month old Nathan from his bed and killed him as the evil spirit `Jinn` was telling him to ``take him, take him, take him``.
As the accused told the court how he killed Nathan, the toddler`s mother Ms Amanda Bailey - Ms Abdi`s estranged wife - broke down and had to be helped from the courtroom.
Mr Abdi said he felt he was ``possessed`` when he heard the voices. Questioend by defence counsel Mr Tom O`Connell SC he said: ``I was like in sombody`s else`s body and I was just following the order...with the voice.``
Asked with what he felt possessed, the accused replied: ``By the spirit.`` He said the spirit, known by the Arabic name of ``Jinn`` was an evil spirit. He heard voices saying ``hit him, hit him.``
The accused, a Muslim, said he awoke at around 4am on the day of the killing for early morning prayer. After he heard the voices he went into the bedroom, where Nathan was sleeping beside his mother, and took him into the kitchen. ``I was holding him with [my] hands on the [child`s] feet.
The accused was handed photographs of the apartment and he identified a wall near the cooker where he had swung the child.
The court has heard medical evidence that Nathan died from gross brain damage and multiple fractures of the skull caused by severe violent impact.
The accused told the court he experienced paranoia and depression since arriving in Ireland from Somalia in June 1996. He had suffered persecution in Somalia and members of his family had been killed there.
The jury heard that he was seen by GPs and by the psychiatric services at Mater Hospital.
He agreed with Mr O`Connell that he had given the gardai a false account of the killing when he claimed it was an accident. He was afraid of the gardai following an incident in November 1999 for which he was convicted of assaulting a police officer.
Mr Abdi told the court he was ``still afraid of the garda``.
Asked how he felt after killing Nathan, he said he panicked. Then he felt ``a blanket of cold over me`` and the voices stopped.
Cross-examined by Mr Michael Durack SC prosecuting, he said he had heard the same voices many times prior to the killing but agreed he had not mentioned it to any of the psychiatrists.
Mr Durack quoted from a report from Dr Sheehan, psychiatrist with the Mater Hospital stating that while the accused had displayed some features of post traumatic stress, he found ``no evidence that of a depressive illness or psychosis``. This related to the period of November 1999 to February 2000.
Asked why he never told Dr Sheehan about the voices he replied: ``at the time I did not see the voices as a problem``.
Mr Durack then put it to the accused that a report from Dr Lynch, a GP, described the accused ``as essentially normal``. This was dated 6 April 2001, 11 days before the killing.
``I wasn`t feeling normal`` the accused replied.
``Did you ever tell your wife about the voices?``
``No`` he replied.
Mr Abdi agreed that when he had taken Nathan into the kitchen he had locked the living room door and his wife, Ms Amanda Bailey could not get in.
The accused said he could not remember if he and his wife had discussed custody of Nathan on the evening of the killing.
Asked what he did after he killed the child he replied: ``I think I prayed.``
Asked if he could hear his wife ``hammering on the door`` he said he did but he could not walk or talk while praying.
``Your child is seriously ill on the floor, your wife is knocking on the door, are you telling us that you it`s not permissible to interrupt your prayer to deal with that?`` asked Mr Durack.
``That`s right``, the accused replied.
The jury was told that Mr Abdi was detained initially in Cloverhill Prison but tried to injure himself twice. They also heard that he is currently detained in the Central Mental Hospital.
Mr Durack put it to the accused that he was moved to the Central Mental Hospital after an incident with a prison warder.
``Did you bite a prison officer?`` Mr Durack enquired, to which the accused replied:``I fought back``.
He claimed the prison oficer had shouted racist abuse at him.
``So you bit him?``
``I might have``, he replied.
Yusif Ali Abdi, (aged 30) with an address at The Elms, College Road, Clane co Kildare, has pleaded not guilty to the murder of Nathan Ali Abdi at College Road, Clane on 17 April 2001.
The trial continues on Monday.
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#16 Posted by mbenzenglish on January 25, 2003 9:01:24 am
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#15 Posted by zeejah on January 25, 2003 7:52:07 am
aaisha... maybe you were led to this article becoz He wanted to cheer you up and tell you too, that He loves you?...:)
Zee
Zee
#14 Posted by aaisha on January 25, 2003 12:19:42 am
Sniff, this is so moving...
And you know what Zeejah, I was feeling extremely low today, things couldn`t have gone worse from what they already were, and just when i log onto Chowk, I see this and reading through it reconfirmed my belief that the Almighty does indeed love us. It is only that in this hectic lives of ours, we ignore the subtle signs from him and his love for us...
Who cares what crap the world may throw at us, when we knwo that His love is forever shielding us from the worst.
Many thanks again, for being a waseela and brightening my dark day
And you know what Zeejah, I was feeling extremely low today, things couldn`t have gone worse from what they already were, and just when i log onto Chowk, I see this and reading through it reconfirmed my belief that the Almighty does indeed love us. It is only that in this hectic lives of ours, we ignore the subtle signs from him and his love for us...
Who cares what crap the world may throw at us, when we knwo that His love is forever shielding us from the worst.
Many thanks again, for being a waseela and brightening my dark day
#12 Posted by Ras on January 24, 2003 2:48:40 pm
When god even hints at the ``I am``, all mortals listen.
Ras
#11 Posted by zeejah on January 24, 2003 8:25:55 am
Doubt is very understandable... but if u stop and listen, who knows wot u will hear?...;)
u cant see with your ears...u cant hear with your eyes... and u need to experience certain things with more than your mind... i guess thats wot your soul is for?...:)
u cant see with your ears...u cant hear with your eyes... and u need to experience certain things with more than your mind... i guess thats wot your soul is for?...:)
#10 Posted by nasah on January 23, 2003 7:47:29 pm
dear zeejah seriously -- ur experiment is scientific -- ur conclusions -- well -- let`s say a -- a -- little skewed? --
once upon a time there was a scientit who wanted to know how spiders hear --
he placed a spider on a lighted table under the magnifying glass -- then tapped the table two times --
the spider moved --
now the scientist wanted to know if the spider heard the tap thru its legs -- perched firmly on the table --
to get that incontrovertible proof -- the scientist cut off the spider`s two legs -- then tapped the table twice --
the spider moved --
then he cut two more legs -- and tapped twice --
and the spider moved --
then the scientist removed the spider`s remaining two legs -- and he tapped the table twice --
lo and behold -- the spider DID NOT move!
Conclusion -- spiders DO hear through their legs -- and hear thru every pair of legs to boot --
Eureka -- Eureka ...
once upon a time there was a scientit who wanted to know how spiders hear --
he placed a spider on a lighted table under the magnifying glass -- then tapped the table two times --
the spider moved --
now the scientist wanted to know if the spider heard the tap thru its legs -- perched firmly on the table --
to get that incontrovertible proof -- the scientist cut off the spider`s two legs -- then tapped the table twice --
the spider moved --
then he cut two more legs -- and tapped twice --
and the spider moved --
then the scientist removed the spider`s remaining two legs -- and he tapped the table twice --
lo and behold -- the spider DID NOT move!
Conclusion -- spiders DO hear through their legs -- and hear thru every pair of legs to boot --
Eureka -- Eureka ...
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