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Kissinger of Death

Rehan Ansari December 6, 2002

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#45 Posted by scout on December 9, 2002 7:23:11 am
who cares about miss turkey being muslim or not, beauty pageants should be banned, women should be encouraged to use their brains instead of boobs and hips and faces to get places. what message are little girls watching pageants getting? that in order to be loved you need to be a size 2, 34B, tall bimbo?

and urstruly is rite, beauty pageantry is just organized eye candy for men.
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#44 Posted by scout on December 9, 2002 7:23:11 am
hamidm2,

just a question....
would you be truly happy if your daughter decided to join beauty pageants instead of studying for her SAT`s and doing something intellectual and meaningful with her life?

how would you feel if she started all kinds of crazy diets, perhaps even became anorexic or bulimic to try and attain the figure of one of these bimbos?
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#43 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2002 9:40:15 pm
urstruly

......... i think i heard this very same hadith (sahih, i am sure) about snake-men without eyelids during a jumaa khutba in islamabad in july of this year ........ the rabid mullah was ranting and raving at the men-folk for not being able to control their women who were running around without hijab and generally being a public nuisance ..........he went on and on about the dubious manhood of his congregation and used some of your favourite words, like kanjar and pimp, to describe the faithful gathered to earn a few brownie points for entry into jannah........

..........so, i guess this story must be from the standard textbook written by imam ghazali and used by folks like the one-eyed mullah to terrorize the ummah..........doesn`t scare me one bit ........boo!
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#42 Posted by Urstruly on December 8, 2002 1:52:57 pm

hamidm2

I used to think that these beauty pageants were demeaning and insulting to women until I attended one. It wasn’t a contest for Miss World, or Miss State or not even Miss City; it was one of our own Desi Miss Something beauty pageant. I was caught off guard when a friend dragged me into the show telling me that it was Moeen Akhtar’s stand up comedy show. Well, once I was in there I thought how bad could it be; lets do in Rome what Romans do; but what I thought would be something disgusting, turned out to be a frightening experience. I was actually so choked with fear that it left me breathless. It wasn’t that the girls weren’t pretty or attractive, they were actually fruit plates that made me salivate….or it could be the tandoori chicken…..I don’t know….but the girls were very attractive…..no doubt there.

It was a humbling experience also, because I could over hear the running commentary from some teenage testicles sitting on the table close to ours. According to them a couple of beauty contestants were desi strippers in the local titty bars and most of them had their parents sitting in the audience. That was a unique experience to see “Mahmood” and “Ayaz” together on one stage. Half way through the show I knew exactly which contestant’s parents were sitting at which table.

It wasn’t long enough when I noticed a very strange thing. I couldn’t believe my eyes to see that some of the men in the audience were not blinking their eyes…….not even a single blink. You might say that it wasn’t a big deal; what man would wanna blink his eyes in a beauty pageant. But let me tell you that I mean something else when I say that they were not blinking their eyes. When I noticed that, I looked hard, and noted this strange and unbelievable thing that the people who were not blinking their eyes actually did not have eyelids.

I rubbed my eyes and looked hard again and found what I observed was true – those men did not have eyelids. Suddenly I found my heart sinking into a bottomless pit. How could that be, I thought? How could those people not have eyelids? They were all middle aged men, bald, potbellied and fermented. They were the parents of those scantily clad girls who were putting out everything they had onto the stage. These men were looking at them with their snake eyes and I swear to God I could hear them hiss. From time to time they applauded each others daughters on the stage staring them with their hungry eyes….eyes without eyelids. Their applause sounded like rattle of rattlesnakes, who also lure their prey with their applause.

Those men, at one sight seemed to be really frightening, like rattlesnakes, who devour their own offspring but when I looked hard they looked pathetic too. They were like the rattlesnakes, which are kept in a glass box and are fed a mouse everyday. When it is feeding time they become ferocious, start hissing, and sense the things around them with their forked tongues. They jump on the scared mouse with a ferocious leap but from outside the glass box they look like a harmless piece of rubber.

I was on the verge of screaming hysterically when I imagined my daughter Vaneeza who is not even born yet, being put in one of those glass boxes full of serpents. She was like a little mouse, cringed in a corner, waiting to be devoured. And you know what left me gasping for air, was not the fact that I was one of the serpents, I was one of the mice.

I had to run from that house of serpents. Later I thought that may be my experience would have been different, had I gone to one of white man’s beauty pageants. I am ashamed to tell you that in some murky corner of my heart I did wish for once to be a serpent; but then I realized that I could never be one, since I have the eyelids.


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#41 Posted by tahmed32 on December 8, 2002 11:55:26 am
hamidm2: So the Mrs. thinks the wrong beauty queen thingy won? I think Ms. Turkey is cute, and if I was not happily married etc. would gladly have had her for thanksgiving.
urstruly: On referring to hamidm`s vaxing lyrical about drugs, you write ``baasi qari ko obaal aana``. Heh! heh! . Never heard this one before. urstruly 1, hamidm 0.
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#37 Posted by nasah on December 8, 2002 11:05:23 am
````by the way, what do you think of miss turkey winning one for the ummah````(hamidm)

a small step for miss turkey -- but a GIANT STEP for Muslim Womanhood:-) --

Lo and behold! -- the SUN of Bint-e Islam’s LIBERATION rises --

BEWARE -- the bearded Draculas of Islam -- put HIJAB on YOUR face -- and RUN for the CAVES of Tora Bora. –

the MOST beautiful WOMAN of the WORLD -- miss turkey is coming – miss turkey is coming ...
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#36 Posted by nasah on December 8, 2002 11:05:22 am
miss turkey -- is certifiaby the MOST beautiful woman of the world -- if not the most intelligent woman of the world --

but who cares -- it is still a Victory for Islam
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#35 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2002 8:28:52 am
urstruly mian,

``who knew that just mentioning the word ``bhang`` would raise a rebel``

..... some things are sacred - a derogatory remark about any fermented liquid would have provoked a similar reaction ......... you see, it is almost like insulting the propet by denigrating dates and camel milk ........

........but you must admit that allah`s warriors have a lot in common with the kissingers and jerry falwells of this world ........ they only cry foul when they are on the receiving end of righteous violence ..........so it is really quite unbecoming for the watwani crowd to throw stones at other people ............on the other hand the bhangis, pathetic and ineffectual as they might seem, are on firm moral ground when they criticize dr strangelove and the equally bizzare mullahs from hell .............

......... by the way, what do you think of miss turkey winning one for the ummah .......... i am conducting an informal survey and so far have concluded that most muslims of your ilk are deeply offended and think it is yet another attempt at fitna creation ............mrs hamidm is the only one who is upset because thinks miss columbia should have won ............
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#34 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2002 8:28:52 am
sadna,

...good post .....i find myself agreeing with a lot of your stuff .......... if only we could put kashmir behind us we could gang up on urstruly.......... unfortunately, chowk realpolitik dictates that i ally myself with a lovable looney like jay to combat his soul mates on our side..........
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#33 Posted by ferozk on December 8, 2002 8:28:52 am
Kissinger is the doyen of Republican foreign affairs pundits and it is a tradition in the Republican party ``never to leave its wonded on the battlefield``. He is being resurrected for his past deeds and being awarded a final swan song.

To understand Kissinger, it is instructive to undertand Prince Klemens von Metternich, the Austrian foreign minister who created and administered the European politics from 1814-1848. Kissinger identifies with Metternich, because Metternich fled the Rhineland ahead of the French armies in 1789 just like Kissenger fled the German Wehrmacht. Mettermich was a Prussian who became influential in the service of another nation like Kissinger, a German, who ended up serving the United States. The Holy Grail of Kissinger is the Treaty of Westphailia of 1648, which created the idea of the balance of power and status quo ante in international diplomacy. Metternich revived these concepts in 1815 and Kissinger, would labor similarily and the results would be the Helsinki Accords of 1974, which divided Europe and ipso facto the world between the United States and the Soviet Union.

Kissinger, as the head of the 9-11 commission, will seek to rationalize the present American policy and sanction the doctrine of pre-emption as a means of self-defence. He will argue for a new version of Pax Americana, which facilitates a new global balance of power with the United States as its final judge, jury and where possible, as its self appointed executioner. Kissinger will offer President Bush a sense of legitimacy in the international affairs and thus, allow Bush to have a legal argument, within the penumbera of international law, to reinforce his actions in the post 9-11 environment. Kissinger will allow Bush to create a new world order, which would please the ghost of Metternich.

The results of this commission will be really interesting and will imply a paradigm shift in international relations.

Ciao
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#29 Posted by sadna on December 8, 2002 2:32:44 am


Post Sept 11, and before the Afghan campaign, I found that there are Americans who are deeply cynical about the decisionmaking process in Washington DC and the role of media in disseminating information about those decisions.

People recalled Robert McNamara, and the way his view prevailed wrt the Vietnam war(?), and how inspite of his great credentials to form those views, how the decisions he advocated turned out to be badly wrong for the US. Tthe 50s-60s war experiences have taught people old enough to remember to worry about the process of US going to war, about whether they are being given enough information to decide, what can they do about the decisions being made if they disagree, whether what their leaders say through the media can be believed.

IMO, the worry has not translated into public empowerment either in the matter of information or influence. Ordinary dissenting and cynical Americans(not just the counterculture fringe) donot have ways of influencing the high powered decisionmaking process in Wash. DC nor what is fed through their just as high powered media wrt foreign policy.

The `civil society` protest about treatment of Afghan women which prevented an American oil company from making a deal with the Taliban is one example of ordinary people influencing the govt when the govt. wanted to go another way, but that was at the much slower pace of peacetime. A decision to go to war brings many more powerful interests into the picture than a few oil interests.

Right now, the American public shows an independent mobilization of opinion, only when their own soldiers begin to arrive in body bags, so the US govt. has learnt to avoid at any cost, this provocation whatever other devastation it carries out.

And if you notice, officially the US has been refusing to give estimates of civilian death tolls in the regions of conflicts it has engaged in, as well as other damage in the war zone. The US media, too doesnot choose to talk about losses (except American)caused by US military action. This was true even post Cold War in Kosovo when the US acting on behalf of NATO and in Iraq where US/UK patrol the no fly zones on behalf of the UN and cannot be said to have any obvious legal liability. This is simply to save the US government the inconvenience of US public opinion.

If US citizens and activists do indeed want to change the way US decides to go to war and conducts the war, IMO they need to begin by demanding that their government and the media give them better information about war damages and casualities. Only after the US public stops being insulated from such war damage and the aftermath of conflict, will it begin to demand better answers BEFORE going to war.

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#28 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2002 8:46:29 pm

oh wow, who knew that just mentioning the word ``bhang`` would raise a rebel out of chowk`s chief obscurantist and recycler par excellence, Mr. hamidm2; formerly known as hamidm. We have a urdu proverb for the occasion, which goes like this `` baasi kaRhi maiN ubaal aana``. jeez.

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#27 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2002 5:09:41 pm
kashaziz #25 I think the ``famous mujahid leader`` you quote had been sniffing too much of the Afghan poppy flower. Also, it seems from your post that you are awaiting the second coming of mullah omar: the learned (assuming that the ability to count to three without making too many mistakes qualifies one to be considered learned) mullah was last seen hightailing it out of town on the back seat of a motorcycle. I dont think he is coming back anytime soon (he may be brought back in handcuffs perhaps, but that would not count as the second coming of mullah omar).
PS: As for beating the Russians (and before them the Brits in the 19th century), I suggest you study the facts in both cases to satisfy yourself that Afghans are not exactly the unmatched warriors some of them like to think themselves to be. And let us pray for the Afghan`s sake that the Americans and other nations (ANYONE, other than our paki generals who foisted the taliban on the Afghans to begin with) stay around long enough to move them out of the stone age.
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