Beynaam Badshah December 20, 2002
#17 Posted by AAmir on December 21, 2002 3:37:29 pm
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#18 Posted by AAmir on December 21, 2002 3:37:29 pm
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#19 Posted by kashaziz on December 21, 2002 3:37:29 pm
O` ignorant ones! Why dont you read Quraan? You have been told that kufaar are not your friends but you are still trying to make friends with your enemies....take heed or Allah will bring forward a new nation that will be more obedient than you
#20 Posted by harimau on December 21, 2002 3:37:29 pm
Ref Bhitai #14
[I wonder if your war criminal from Gujarat shows up at an American airport, would he be fingerprinted?]
The short answer is `No`.
The long answer is `No Frikkin Way!`
The reason is that they have no history of plane hijackings, suicide bombings or flying planes into buildings. Nor do they shed tears for Chechens, Palestinians, or any other part of The Ummah, which in Pakistan`s case, conveniently excludes Bangladeshis and the Uighurs of Xinjiang.
[I wonder if your war criminal from Gujarat shows up at an American airport, would he be fingerprinted?]
The short answer is `No`.
The long answer is `No Frikkin Way!`
The reason is that they have no history of plane hijackings, suicide bombings or flying planes into buildings. Nor do they shed tears for Chechens, Palestinians, or any other part of The Ummah, which in Pakistan`s case, conveniently excludes Bangladeshis and the Uighurs of Xinjiang.
#21 Posted by AAmir on December 21, 2002 3:37:29 pm
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#22 Posted by faisaluno on December 21, 2002 5:40:06 pm
i was actually referring to mr. dinesh d` ss ouza. statements like the one made in the last sentence of the article makes americans think that they are made of nur and this leads them to believe that normal human laws dont apply to them.
#23 Posted by ayeshakhan on December 21, 2002 7:10:20 pm
Arjun_m....dude I have never ever seen one logical and/or contructive comment escape your keyboard. You are like a little weakling peering through the window dissing the big boys knowing you are safe in your house. Stop using the word ``paki`` as it is derogatory and is similar to calling a black man a nigger. What is the problem my man? Why so much hatred of Pakistanis?
#15 by arjun_m on December 21, 2002 1:40pm PT
Mommy..why dont they love us anymore..we may cheer murdering jihadis but we are still lovable cute cuddly pakis...
http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id={35C86E9B-93AB-44C9-8F36-E1CE2989EDE5}
#15 by arjun_m on December 21, 2002 1:40pm PT
Mommy..why dont they love us anymore..we may cheer murdering jihadis but we are still lovable cute cuddly pakis...
http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id={35C86E9B-93AB-44C9-8F36-E1CE2989EDE5}
#24 Posted by AAmir on December 21, 2002 7:10:20 pm
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#25 Posted by adnan_rafiq on December 21, 2002 11:57:44 pm
ayeshakhan #24
[ ... Stop using the word ``paki`` as it is derogatory and is similar to calling a black man a nigger. ...]
Why else do you think he uses the word? The humiliation and sufferings due to the INS witchhunt, aka Special Registration Program, is affecting thousands and thousands of Muslims. Many of them do not even have an otherwise minor offense such as DUI. Most of them have no link to terrorism. Besides, no terrorist or shady person worth his salt is ever gonna come forward and walk into such a conspicous trap. Many of the men arrested for incomplete paperwork or minor visa problems have families - wives, children, old parents - either in the US or back home. The suffering even affects infants who are dependent on daddy`s income for milk and clothes.
But, look at the reaction of our Hindu chowkies. They are sitting on the sidelines, cheering and sneering at the Muslims. They could care less if a family who has nothing to do with Kashmir will suffer tremendously. On one hand, they say that their problem is with Pakistan and its alleged support for terrorism in Kashmir. But, their opinions and posts are enough to show that they are driven by blind hatred against ALL muslims, regardless of age, race and ethnicity. They want the Muslims of the 21st century to pay for the deeds of some of their forefathers who conquered the land now known as India.
Jinnah warned us against this a long time ago. In retrospect, his clairvoyance is obvious to even those Pakistanis who vehemently oppose the Two Nation Theory. As bloodthirsty BJP will continue to quench its frustrations and psychological problems with Muslim blood, Jinnah`s words will reveal the true wisdom of TNT. Listen to Vajpayee when he says that Muslims are the ones to blame for not condemning the Godhra incident .... forget about what happened later. India is well on its way to becoming a fundamentalist Hindu state and the minorities better open their butts wide open in anticipation of the Raam dundaa!
[ ... Stop using the word ``paki`` as it is derogatory and is similar to calling a black man a nigger. ...]
Why else do you think he uses the word? The humiliation and sufferings due to the INS witchhunt, aka Special Registration Program, is affecting thousands and thousands of Muslims. Many of them do not even have an otherwise minor offense such as DUI. Most of them have no link to terrorism. Besides, no terrorist or shady person worth his salt is ever gonna come forward and walk into such a conspicous trap. Many of the men arrested for incomplete paperwork or minor visa problems have families - wives, children, old parents - either in the US or back home. The suffering even affects infants who are dependent on daddy`s income for milk and clothes.
But, look at the reaction of our Hindu chowkies. They are sitting on the sidelines, cheering and sneering at the Muslims. They could care less if a family who has nothing to do with Kashmir will suffer tremendously. On one hand, they say that their problem is with Pakistan and its alleged support for terrorism in Kashmir. But, their opinions and posts are enough to show that they are driven by blind hatred against ALL muslims, regardless of age, race and ethnicity. They want the Muslims of the 21st century to pay for the deeds of some of their forefathers who conquered the land now known as India.
Jinnah warned us against this a long time ago. In retrospect, his clairvoyance is obvious to even those Pakistanis who vehemently oppose the Two Nation Theory. As bloodthirsty BJP will continue to quench its frustrations and psychological problems with Muslim blood, Jinnah`s words will reveal the true wisdom of TNT. Listen to Vajpayee when he says that Muslims are the ones to blame for not condemning the Godhra incident .... forget about what happened later. India is well on its way to becoming a fundamentalist Hindu state and the minorities better open their butts wide open in anticipation of the Raam dundaa!
#26 Posted by Ras on December 21, 2002 11:57:45 pm
Thanks for writing this Beynaam,
It is just the ``sign of the times`` till much to Arjun-m`s surprise
America will need the bearded boys once again to further its interests.
Moderates like most of us CHOWKIES always make lousy ``freedom fighters``. We ask too many questions and feel guilty about killing just about anything alive.
Ras
It is just the ``sign of the times`` till much to Arjun-m`s surprise
America will need the bearded boys once again to further its interests.
Moderates like most of us CHOWKIES always make lousy ``freedom fighters``. We ask too many questions and feel guilty about killing just about anything alive.
Ras
#27 Posted by nasah on December 22, 2002 7:39:55 am
in 70`s -- one of the foremost constitutionalists of the United States -- the late Senator Sam Ervin of North Caolina -- who presided over the Watergate Hearings -- used to say:
`` in a true democracy -- we must see to it -- that we do not have Laws -- that punish 90% of the population -- for the crimes committed by 10%.``
in 2002 -- we have a racist fascist attorney GENERAL Aschcroft who -- definitely thinks otherwise --
he believes for the crime of 0.1% -- 99.99% of the Muslims should be KEPT under the INS -- Gestapo WATCH.
THANKS to OSAMA BIN LADEN!!
`` in a true democracy -- we must see to it -- that we do not have Laws -- that punish 90% of the population -- for the crimes committed by 10%.``
in 2002 -- we have a racist fascist attorney GENERAL Aschcroft who -- definitely thinks otherwise --
he believes for the crime of 0.1% -- 99.99% of the Muslims should be KEPT under the INS -- Gestapo WATCH.
THANKS to OSAMA BIN LADEN!!
#28 Posted by rsaxena on December 22, 2002 7:39:55 am
re: 12-head
{THE IIMIGRATION CHANGES FOR MUSLIMS DOES NOT DISTINGUISH HINDIANS FROM MUSLIMS.}
...except that indians (muslims and hindus) in america don`t have to show up at the INS office like you do...
{THE IIMIGRATION CHANGES FOR MUSLIMS DOES NOT DISTINGUISH HINDIANS FROM MUSLIMS.}
...except that indians (muslims and hindus) in america don`t have to show up at the INS office like you do...
#29 Posted by rsaxena on December 22, 2002 7:39:56 am
re: bhitai
{I wonder if your war criminal from Gujarat shows up at an American airport, would he be fingerprinted? }
..they have not blown up things and themselves in any foreign country, nor have they hijacked international airliners...they are irrelevant to americans...
{I wonder if your war criminal from Gujarat shows up at an American airport, would he be fingerprinted? }
..they have not blown up things and themselves in any foreign country, nor have they hijacked international airliners...they are irrelevant to americans...
#30 Posted by Ralph on December 22, 2002 7:39:56 am
adnan_rafiq #25
Here you again blaming everyone but yourself. Do you ever ask yourself why not one country, Christian or Muslim, feels comfortable letting Pakistanis enter its borders? That`s because Pakistan has turned into the den of world-wide terrorism. It is a country whose intellectuals support terrorism in other countries, whose young men enter other countries to kill their citizens, and whose parliament pays homage to terrorists. It is a country whose name crops up in 90% of the cases of islamic terrorism anywhere in the world. More than anyone else, Saudis and Pakistanis are found spreading religious fundamentalism and violence abroad from South-east Asia to Africa.
Instead of tackling these problems at home you are busy fighting others. You are grateful to Jinnah and Jinnha would be grateful to you for carrying on his legacy. Why wouldn`t all Indians, not just Hindus, want to see a country that supports terrorism in India be made to pay for its actions?
Your freedom fighters continue their killing spree in Kashmir, shooting democratically elected representatives, killing girls for not wearing burqas, gunning down children. Jinnah and you can celebrate your achievements. Indians will do their best to pay you back in your own coin.
Here you again blaming everyone but yourself. Do you ever ask yourself why not one country, Christian or Muslim, feels comfortable letting Pakistanis enter its borders? That`s because Pakistan has turned into the den of world-wide terrorism. It is a country whose intellectuals support terrorism in other countries, whose young men enter other countries to kill their citizens, and whose parliament pays homage to terrorists. It is a country whose name crops up in 90% of the cases of islamic terrorism anywhere in the world. More than anyone else, Saudis and Pakistanis are found spreading religious fundamentalism and violence abroad from South-east Asia to Africa.
Instead of tackling these problems at home you are busy fighting others. You are grateful to Jinnah and Jinnha would be grateful to you for carrying on his legacy. Why wouldn`t all Indians, not just Hindus, want to see a country that supports terrorism in India be made to pay for its actions?
Your freedom fighters continue their killing spree in Kashmir, shooting democratically elected representatives, killing girls for not wearing burqas, gunning down children. Jinnah and you can celebrate your achievements. Indians will do their best to pay you back in your own coin.
#31 Posted by shankar on December 22, 2002 7:39:56 am
ferozk,
#9
{{That choice is that they have to choose - either they are loyal to the United States or their religion; assimilate or be segregated. There is no third option.}}
Jesus. H. Christ! Feroze !
You know what that statement sounded like ?!
PURE RSS PROPAGANDA!!!! Only you have inserted the US instead of Hindians!!
This is what I think the Hindutva-vaadis are telling Indian muslims---choose between a ``foreign`` religion like Islam or be assimilated with Hindus---the dominant religion of India!! (BTW, that goes for Indian Christians, Parsees, Jains, Sikhs etc etc). Decide whether your loyalities lie with Indian(hindu) state or be segregated. The only third option is ``go to Pakistan!``...but we`ll be DAMNED if you ask for land with it...If you want to be a proud Indian muslim (remember...Indian FIRST & FOREMOST---like Kalam)..then we`ll like you...heck we will even endorse you as President...Gee Whiz, then maybe the world will accept the fact that we Hindians are secular....but be WARNED!!..we are militant hindus & we refuse to take any sh*t from anybody---esp you muslims!
The BJP is only a ``benign`` political face of RSS...
Is that where the US is heading? in your opinion?...maybe I misunderstood your post...
I shudder to think what will happen is Al-Qeeda manages to strike America again!
#9
{{That choice is that they have to choose - either they are loyal to the United States or their religion; assimilate or be segregated. There is no third option.}}
Jesus. H. Christ! Feroze !
You know what that statement sounded like ?!
PURE RSS PROPAGANDA!!!! Only you have inserted the US instead of Hindians!!
This is what I think the Hindutva-vaadis are telling Indian muslims---choose between a ``foreign`` religion like Islam or be assimilated with Hindus---the dominant religion of India!! (BTW, that goes for Indian Christians, Parsees, Jains, Sikhs etc etc). Decide whether your loyalities lie with Indian(hindu) state or be segregated. The only third option is ``go to Pakistan!``...but we`ll be DAMNED if you ask for land with it...If you want to be a proud Indian muslim (remember...Indian FIRST & FOREMOST---like Kalam)..then we`ll like you...heck we will even endorse you as President...Gee Whiz, then maybe the world will accept the fact that we Hindians are secular....but be WARNED!!..we are militant hindus & we refuse to take any sh*t from anybody---esp you muslims!
The BJP is only a ``benign`` political face of RSS...
Is that where the US is heading? in your opinion?...maybe I misunderstood your post...
I shudder to think what will happen is Al-Qeeda manages to strike America again!
#32 Posted by ferozk on December 22, 2002 7:39:56 am
Re: AAmir # 16
If you believe in imagery over reality, then you will believe the White House PR campaign...right?
What is the reality? If Muslim of America are such a powerful force, then why is it only the Muslims getting this royal treatment from INS?
African American Muslims are different from other Muslims in United States, because they have been more successful in assimilating into the American maintream. They do not resist the influences of America to the same degree as the other Muslims do and they do not go around blowing buildings!
Yes; the United States and its president loves and respects the Muslims. It is a sign of that love and respect, which makes the United States treat the Muslims separtely from the others.
AAmir, please feel free to believe in your fairy tales, but not blame those, who opt not believe similarily believe with you.
For the record, I did not offer the choice; the United States did!
Ciao
If you believe in imagery over reality, then you will believe the White House PR campaign...right?
What is the reality? If Muslim of America are such a powerful force, then why is it only the Muslims getting this royal treatment from INS?
African American Muslims are different from other Muslims in United States, because they have been more successful in assimilating into the American maintream. They do not resist the influences of America to the same degree as the other Muslims do and they do not go around blowing buildings!
Yes; the United States and its president loves and respects the Muslims. It is a sign of that love and respect, which makes the United States treat the Muslims separtely from the others.
AAmir, please feel free to believe in your fairy tales, but not blame those, who opt not believe similarily believe with you.
For the record, I did not offer the choice; the United States did!
Ciao
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