Gujrat - The Verdict Of God

re: veeresh

//Reportage on why more and more airline passengers of all sorts are ordering ``Hindu veg`` while flying, India and abroad, and inferences therein. //

just curious...what`s Hindu veg? In fact, what`s this whole issue?

Thanks!~

Thank you for your views Parthasarthy B, now would you, again on behalf of your Court of God, consider similar articles on . . .


a) Reportage on Catholic deaths in violence in Ireland on behalf of Indian Catholics . . . and/or . . . reportage on Protestant deaths in violence in Ireland on behalf of Indian Protestants.

b) Reportage on Israeli and American atrocities in Angola on behalf of Indian Jews and Malayalees.

c) Reportage on Saudi atrocities towards Muslim Hajj visitors from India on behalf of Indian Muslims.

d) Reportage on US, Canadian, Russian and Japanese joint atrocities towards the Innuit Race on behalf of all the indigent people of India, especially genetically linked people from Ladakh/Gilgit.

e) Reportage on Japanese atrocities towards the Ai-noos of Hokkaido on behalf of all animists in India, especially genetically linked Nagas.

f) Reportage on British & American media selective tirades against ``Bobby`` Mugabe while ignoring De Beers, on behalf of suffering diamond workers of Surat.

g) Reportage on demographic break-up by religion and community of soldiers who died on duty in/for India, as against similar break-up for soldiers who died on duty for/in Pakistan, and any inferences therein.

h) Reportage on why Indian motoring media tends to glorify foreign automobiles while ignoring or bad-mouthing Indian makes/models.

i) Reportage on why more and more airline passengers of all sorts are ordering ``Hindu veg`` while flying, India and abroad, and inferences therein.

j) Reportage on atrocities committed against Catholic Basque independence seeking victimised people of Spain/France on behalf of all Catholics in India.

Please frgive me if I have left out Baluchis.

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#17 by Tipu

What the hell are you talking about ? I am not justifying what happened in Gujrat. All I am saying is that keep it in perspective. Anyway there are not too many non muslims that are left in Pakistan whose asses can be kicked anyway.

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What happened in Gujrat was appalling and disheartening - both Godhra and Post Godhra. However, I do find it intriguing that post Godhra is termed as Progrom or Ethnic Cleansing Campaign. What Language Inflation. Hindus who were 32% in Pakistan and were brought down to less than 2%,that was ethnic Cleansing. Hindus who were 15% in Bangladesh and Kashmir and have been brought down to less than 5% in BD and nearly zero in Kashmir Valley - that is a Progrom and Ethnic Cleansing. We have to look at what happened in Gujrat as an aberration. If a definite Progrom was in place then Muslims would be at the Gujrat Pakistan Border - trying to get into Pakistan. I do not think that there has been a single case of a Muslim leaving Gujarat to go to the ``land of the pure``

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A small clarification :

By `MEDIA`, I refer ONLY to the Gujarati press ( Gujarat Smachar, etc.), which were squarely criticised by the Editors Guild and PCI.

NOT the main stream media - which by most accounts did an excellent job at unbiased reporting, and by and large brought down the numbers of those killed.

Brat you write ``we need more balanced Indian viewpoints on Chowk. ``
Amen:
Let the mice
(i.e. Indian and Pakistani ``normal people`` like you and, I hope, me)
play
While the cat
(i.e. the jays and arjuns from the saffron side, the waqars from the green side)
is away
And Before Chowk returns
To its usual dull hindu-muslim heartburns.

At least, that is what I say.

Samina #9
``Does anyone seeing this state of breakdown being repaired? Is this a priority of the current Indian leadership?``

No it isn`t a priority, IMO. The reason is the current Indian leadership of all shades of the political spectrum is itself a beneficiary of this state of breakdown.

There was for example, rare unanimity among MPs and leaders of ALL parties in rejecting Election Commission recommendations for preventing criminals or lawbreakers from contesting elections. My remarks on Dsouza`s board and the John Doe board were also in this context.

As things stand presently, I don`t trust either the BJP or the Cong leadership to get their priorities right, and I meant that even the Indian left too gives more priority to its own ideology than to meaningful constructive contributions to solutions to real problems facing India, particularly the economy, the breakdowns of law and order machinery or violations in the secular spirit of the Indian constitution from any religious quarter.

Politicians are more interested in winning their ideological turf battles than in delivering solutions and many ordinary Indians also seem to lose their sense of priority thinking politics is a spectator sport with no connection with the problems in their real lives.

So a Mumbaikar may care more for leaders who promise them Marathi pride than question how Marathi pride can coexist with inadequate public sanitation, or fault these leaders for not tackling the underworld extortionists who turn up at his shop to ask for hafta or to the proliferation of slums he sees in his neighbourhood.

A VHP grassroots member for example would rather shout slogans to press for a Ram temple than shout slogans for pragmatic and good governance so that his younger brother(for example) can find a good job. If roused up enough, he will do something illegal, and his leader can him as willing cannon fodder to get reelected. His younger brother is still unemployed, but hey at least there is the comforting brotherhood of ideology and his leader is in power.

Like many Indians in recent times, I am forced to wonder who or what is going to lead my country safely out of this morass of meaningless ideologies, right and left, which offer no real solutions, and serve only to acerbate the real problems that we face.

Shouldn`t Mr Parthsarathy let ``god`` do his own job and desist for writing judgements on ``god`s`` behalf?

Looking at the silver lining that is believed to come with every cloud...the rest of India did not go up in communal flames when the Gujrat pogroms took place. And there are people like Parthasarathy around. The majority of Indians are, I think, appalled like Parthasarathy at what happened, and not gleeful or who condone these massacres as a justified result of the attack on the Godhra train by muslim nuts. This is my guess based on various indications, although I have never been to India for more than a couple of days, but I do know a bit about human nature, I think.

If you start compiling the different points of view around the various issues circulating the the rise of a rightwing government, you`d come to the conclusion that the writer has; an apparatus has developed in which innocent people regardless of what religion they are, (altho I am beg. to believe that the status of Muslims in India isnt as easily determined as some would claim) are being victimized by extremist groups while the normal functions of this govt whose job it is to protect its citizens has been severely compromised. Does anyone seeing this state of breakdown being repaired? Is this a priority of the current Indian leadership?

Hi Umer # 6 . . . you are correct! Spoken like an indian, if I may add?

cheers/veeresh

Look people,

I gotta agree with Harimau. India is a secular country to the max. It kills everyone: Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, Hindus... it doesn`t discriminate.

Ha ha. Couldn`t resist.

Hey, here`s another joke: What do you a call a country with a population problem?

The biggest Democracy in the world.

Boom boom!

Umer M