The Kashmir Committee: Ram in U.S

Madrassas in India are not `regulated` in any way. Some states (such as my own Tamil Nadu) have what is called an Oriental Board of Education which regulates and conducts examinations for students who choose to take the traditional course of studies either thru Sanskrit/Tamil or thru Arabic/Persian/Urdu. In West Bengal when a comunist CM wanted to document and register Madrasas the politburo came down heavily on him. The madrasas in West Bengal are dens of hate. Although many of them teach in Bengali the standard texts of Vidyasagar and Tagore (that are used even in Bangladesh) are not used here. A virulently sectarian and parochial curriculum is followed. In a state like UP madrasaas have gone out of control. In contrast the religious schools I have seen in Tamil Nadu run for Muslim boys are very well managed - I shd know as I have been involved in teacher training for them. Children here are taught the Koran; Tamil, Hindi and English. The quality of instruction is quite good. Strictly speaking these are not madrasas as religious instruction is not the only activity here.

[ #10 by Shah on December 17, 2002 12:29pm PT
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Taking of extreme dergee of religious adherence the AAmish a christian EXTREMIST by this defenition dont use electricity or automobile or see movies or take photographs Neither do they marry outside the community (movie Witness of Kevin Costner?)

There are many religious extremist in Hindus who live thee kluife naked on ganges for the rest of thee lives.Is there any moral or legal opposition to man /woman going over board with WHAT THEY THINK is there linits to which they want to take the teachings of Bible /Koran or Hinduism ????I dont see Europe prosecuting AAmish or Shakers, Or other Factions of extreme christianity . ]

Yes but Amish do not go about killing people. As part of their religious training they are not being taught to kill. What article at the link posted by arjun_m shows is precisely such cynical teaching going on at a major Islamic teaching centre. And thre are I think at least 1000 such madrasah small and big where hardline Islam is being taught. The author of that article describes how his own teacing was by comparison quietist. Go and read that article before commenting on it. Some of these 1000 plus madrasah were also actually teaching about explosives, use of small arms, poisons, guerrilla techniques etc before 9/11.

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Ras,

The Pak Army/State will not wind up terrorism in JK or anywhere else for that matter on its own - it will be forced by the weight of circumstances some day. Apart from terrorism and running the fat business rackets in Pakistan the Pak Armed forces know nothing else. In the unlikely event that this does happen like one turns off the fan switch on getting up every morning the next task will be for Pakistan to withdraw from the parts of Jammu and Kashmir that have been illegally occupied by it for over 55 years. And then the real job of building a new nation state west of the Indus will begin - free of the grandiose notions of past bequeathed by Jinnah. The sooner nations learn their place in the world`s scheme of things the better and past glory is not necessary for economic or political power. Look at a nation like Singapore or Austria that despite being tiny lands have come to command weighty influence.

re: pmishra2
[ ... Untill Pakistan ends its terror war, and the people of India and Pakistan rise up and formulate a compromise, this murderous tamasha will continue... ]

So, lets say that the impossible does happen and Pak Army stops meddling in Kashmir. Lets say the fundamentalists limit their involvement to moral support only. What should be a fair compromise from the Indian perspective in such circumstances?

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If anyone is wondering about my last post,

here is one Link to the late Nani Palkhivala`s views on Kashmir:

http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/jun/05kash.htm

Ras

Important Pritish Nandy interview with the late Nani Palkhivala in 1998.

Please read his views on Kashmir at:

http://www.rediff.com/budget/1998/jun/05bud1.htm


Ras

This is one time I want to remember a great Indian that died recently.

Nani Palkhivala is no more, but both India and Pakistan could

benefit a great deal from additional people like him.

Mr. Palkhivala, may you rest in peace (Ameen).

Ras

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Romeet,

Ram Jetmalani is a senile constitutional lawyer trying to be in the lime light in the fading years of his life. He is a total stupid who has no idea about the social structure of pakistan of today, he lives in the yesterworld when Indira Gandhi was the PM, is totally unaware of the rise of the children of TNT in pakistan.
The fool of Ram jaetmalani has to account for why tens of thousands of pakistanis have voluntarily gone to afghanistan to get killed. he has to learn why several thousands are in prison in afghanistan. He should learn why pakistanis were in kenya. he has to read the news item and learn tha a pakistani went all the way to kill a few americans.

Then and then only the jetmalani will know why pakistanis are coming to kashmir. Afghan - pak border is porus, thousands of pak jihadists reached heaven through there. Next porus border is in kasshmir and again thousands are pouring in. Pak army prevents the construction of any fence on this border.

There is no kashmir issue, there is a jihadic issue, and it can only be contained, there is no solution. Attack on iraq, may be saudi and disarmamant of islamic countries are part of containing the jihad. Kahmir killing can only be understood in the context of jihad, in the context of 9/11, kenya and bali bombings.

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An article written by a politically naive and inexperienced person.

In Pakistan, the entire army and mullah complex is making its living off Kashmir for the last 20 years. They are going to listen to this or that proposal? The army generals estates and companies are worth billions. They will give this up for some half-assed compromise? Their boss Musharraf will go down in history as the person who organized a covert invasion of India which almost lead to nuclear war. He is waiting to listen to Ram Jethmalani??

In India, during the last 10 years we have an increasingly belligerent and narrow-minded nationalism that identifies all Pakistan (and often all muslims) as the enemy. Bal Thackery and LK Advani will settle for a compromise??

Ram Jethmalani is a fatuous egoist. He is ``dining out`` on his silly appointment. He is not in it for money but for access to the powerful. Like all washed up politicians he dreads losing access above all.

Untill Pakistan ends its terror war, and the people of India and Pakistan rise up and formulate a compromise, this murderous tamasha will continue...