Sohail Rabbani December 17, 2002
#17 Posted by Urstruly on December 19, 2002 7:34:49 am
Role reversal in gender struggle was imminent so SR`s vision is not quite far fetched. There is no one to blame for this reversal of roles but men. As men, as Dr. Frankenstiens we are the one who created this monster; we are the one who let this monster out; we are the one who raised it, nurtured it and gave it the strength so now it can squeeze the shit out of us.
Story is poorly written. I think SR has deliberately tried to dumb it down so that the ``intellectuals`` at chowk could understand it. Never forget that a copmpromised art is not art, its business - the show business.
#16 Posted by semipreciousme on December 18, 2002 10:32:11 pm
...why is everyone so worried about the symbolism in this piece?...just read it and enjoy it for the great piece, albeit a bit off-the-wall, of writing that it is...
#15 Posted by soldotna on December 18, 2002 10:32:11 pm
RE ... ``The little plastic jesuses are imported from Taiwan and the wooden crosses come from Yakima, Washington...``.
Reality Check: Makah Native-American Sovereign Tribe of Yakama does make wooden crosses or Totem Pole Crosses in Yakima, Washington. It is the mainstay of their tribal economy. Well researched article!
Reality Check: Makah Native-American Sovereign Tribe of Yakama does make wooden crosses or Totem Pole Crosses in Yakima, Washington. It is the mainstay of their tribal economy. Well researched article!
#14 Posted by soldotna on December 18, 2002 10:32:10 pm
Lord God Bless You Please, Doctor Rabbani,
I`ve SoHail`d You in Ways You`ll Never Know!
In the heart that magic touches,
a mystical spell drifts
through that soul:
to urge and drive
the hand of craft
to completeness
in the finishing
of one precious article.
The soul cannot live
without writing,
write without living,
to inhale breaths of splendor
that moves not the physical,
but the spirit of the writer
in his creating:
Hiding but ....
symbolizing the truth of fantasy.
I`ve SoHail`d You in Ways You`ll Never Know!
In the heart that magic touches,
a mystical spell drifts
through that soul:
to urge and drive
the hand of craft
to completeness
in the finishing
of one precious article.
The soul cannot live
without writing,
write without living,
to inhale breaths of splendor
that moves not the physical,
but the spirit of the writer
in his creating:
Hiding but ....
symbolizing the truth of fantasy.
#13 Posted by Saminasha on December 18, 2002 4:24:15 pm
Afrasiyab,
I quite understand your point and appreciate your reference to Rabelais. And yet I cannot mask the sheer joy I have in daydreaming in response to this particular piece, of how the world would be so different if men could have babies the way we can...and yes, we are better than the male gender, simply because we put up with missiles, billy clubs, oil rigs and that hideous creature called Howard Stern. In an honest world, there would have been reckoning a long time ago and I wouldnt have to worry about my President`s really stupid missile Star Wars plan...
EW:
I`m sure Hamidm2`s Notes would do...
Hydra,
What I love about this is that you`ve got the hard science delusion that social sciences are ``easier`` and more ``rational`` and ``linear`` and you arent even a prof!
I quite understand your point and appreciate your reference to Rabelais. And yet I cannot mask the sheer joy I have in daydreaming in response to this particular piece, of how the world would be so different if men could have babies the way we can...and yes, we are better than the male gender, simply because we put up with missiles, billy clubs, oil rigs and that hideous creature called Howard Stern. In an honest world, there would have been reckoning a long time ago and I wouldnt have to worry about my President`s really stupid missile Star Wars plan...
EW:
I`m sure Hamidm2`s Notes would do...
Hydra,
What I love about this is that you`ve got the hard science delusion that social sciences are ``easier`` and more ``rational`` and ``linear`` and you arent even a prof!
#12 Posted by aicha on December 18, 2002 3:58:36 pm
I dont know about the others but I just thought this was a case of guilts on part of hte author !!
#11 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 18, 2002 2:36:50 pm
[ #7 by Saminasha on December 18, 2002 12:07pm PT
...
one of our interactors is so bechan with the idea of syphillis that he evokes it in almost every posts he writes in response to text that isnt the usual Islamo fodder....do you think he understood Ibsen`s Ghosts when he read it? Will someone buy him the Cliffs Notes? ]
I would like to study Quran. Do they have Cliffs Notes for Quran? -ew
...
one of our interactors is so bechan with the idea of syphillis that he evokes it in almost every posts he writes in response to text that isnt the usual Islamo fodder....do you think he understood Ibsen`s Ghosts when he read it? Will someone buy him the Cliffs Notes? ]
I would like to study Quran. Do they have Cliffs Notes for Quran? -ew
#9 Posted by afrasiyab on December 18, 2002 1:52:22 pm
Sohail, I am sure you have read Rabelais` Gargantua. If you haven`t, you should.
Samina, You may be oversimplifying the phenomenon and the repurcussions of a profound feeling called ``fear`` here. Fear is involved everywhere, in every social situation, interaction, gathering whatever you may like to study and it does not have to be between sexes alone or even one sided. Fear is one of the many forces that drove evolution and has contributed in human kind being where it is today. Just saying that women are afraid of men or vice versa does not say much. This can be stated for the purpose of oversimplification or for the purpose of exchanging knowing smiles while the ``weaker`` sex gets to ``gloat`` about an ``imaginary`` scenario. But as far as real value in gaining insight on the phenomenon of fear of objectification, role reversals, and other social phenomenons is concerned I am not sure where this would leave us. Anyway if the first case was the object of your statement then perhaps I should leave it here. (Do make note of where I have words in quotes. I hope you can understand what I am trying to say here)
Samina, You may be oversimplifying the phenomenon and the repurcussions of a profound feeling called ``fear`` here. Fear is involved everywhere, in every social situation, interaction, gathering whatever you may like to study and it does not have to be between sexes alone or even one sided. Fear is one of the many forces that drove evolution and has contributed in human kind being where it is today. Just saying that women are afraid of men or vice versa does not say much. This can be stated for the purpose of oversimplification or for the purpose of exchanging knowing smiles while the ``weaker`` sex gets to ``gloat`` about an ``imaginary`` scenario. But as far as real value in gaining insight on the phenomenon of fear of objectification, role reversals, and other social phenomenons is concerned I am not sure where this would leave us. Anyway if the first case was the object of your statement then perhaps I should leave it here. (Do make note of where I have words in quotes. I hope you can understand what I am trying to say here)
#7 Posted by GhalibZaman on December 18, 2002 12:07:54 pm
# 5
Same difference ;)
Gupt-roag(hindi/hindvi), or abla-e farangee(farsi/urdu); all are the gifts of the modern-day magis to the civilised worlds of Africa & Asia.-
Same difference ;)
Gupt-roag(hindi/hindvi), or abla-e farangee(farsi/urdu); all are the gifts of the modern-day magis to the civilised worlds of Africa & Asia.-
#6 Posted by Saminasha on December 18, 2002 12:07:54 pm
Actually this was well written, bright, humorous and creative. And yes, the writer is correct; y`all men are afraid of this scenario which is why we get to read such incisive, intellectual posts from the usual suspects....one of our interactors is so bechan with the idea of syphillis that he evokes it in almost every posts he writes in response to text that isnt the usual Islamo fodder....do you think he understood Ibsen`s Ghosts when he read it? Will someone buy him the Cliffs Notes?
#5 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 18, 2002 10:51:24 am
[ #1 by GhalibZaman on December 18, 2002 8:41am PT
SR:
Dry Fantasies of the Aids-prone? ]
Sounds more like syphilis in last stage. -ew
SR:
Dry Fantasies of the Aids-prone? ]
Sounds more like syphilis in last stage. -ew
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