Bina Shah December 24, 2002
#18 Posted by Tidbit on December 26, 2002 1:56:08 am
waisay have u all noticed kay the West is also into gora rang what with the loreal whitening creams and wonder pearls that promise chittapann???
or are these products specifically designed for South Asian markets where light skin is the order of the day?...i swear every where u look there`s this revolutionary new `imported` cream that`ll make u fair....
any ideas?
or are these products specifically designed for South Asian markets where light skin is the order of the day?...i swear every where u look there`s this revolutionary new `imported` cream that`ll make u fair....
any ideas?
#17 Posted by GhalibZaman on December 25, 2002 6:32:25 pm
This reaaly is the biggest dillema for the Indi-Pakis. The only racists, in the world who avoid the black population anywhere, as if their dormant melanin would somehow ooze out.
This most wretched and vile bunch on earth is somehow bent upon `correcting` their genes by any means fair or ugly. They claim that somehow they have been able to master the Amreeekan `accent`, gotten themselves hambugarised & frenchfried themselves ad nauseum, and revealed their wheatish (mexi-pak variety) skin to the desired englo-oglers.... But this damn Desi-pun just go away. ..what to do?
The third rate Bollywood (now Mollywood?---- oh how shamelessly they want to revert to their colonial keepers), with its low-class `english-knowing` nautankee-valee & valaas have suddenly become someone which might be confused with those who still take pride in their class & culture...which no money or `decent`-exposure can ever emulate or act-out.
So when DID this `advanced` stupidity creep in among muslims? Hindus must be excused for obvious reasons.
Laila was black as night , so much so that now her real name is history. Laila means dark-night. MajnouN ( Quias) was crazy for her.
Razia Sultana married Yaqoot, her negro military trainer.
Maria Qubtia ( Maria the coptic) was known for her beauty... All muslims know her
Qaloopatraa was black, negro
Queen Sheba , malkaa-e Sabaa of Yemen was black.
( & none of them are exceptions or newsworthy in history for color reasons. When this stupidity started. I think near abouts 1857 may not be a bad idea... when the muslims started emulating the english. It may shock someone to know today but even the black madrasee baboos put white talcum powder & cream on their faces and even light-red lipstick as late as early-fifties(dominion-days).
Is there any other country ( except these blighted ones) where Stillman`s & EU-cream and other such `` Aa tujhhay bughair goray baap kay goraa bunaadooN`` culture exists.
THe title should have been: Fair & Lusty.
What has LOVE got to do with it?
This most wretched and vile bunch on earth is somehow bent upon `correcting` their genes by any means fair or ugly. They claim that somehow they have been able to master the Amreeekan `accent`, gotten themselves hambugarised & frenchfried themselves ad nauseum, and revealed their wheatish (mexi-pak variety) skin to the desired englo-oglers.... But this damn Desi-pun just go away. ..what to do?
The third rate Bollywood (now Mollywood?---- oh how shamelessly they want to revert to their colonial keepers), with its low-class `english-knowing` nautankee-valee & valaas have suddenly become someone which might be confused with those who still take pride in their class & culture...which no money or `decent`-exposure can ever emulate or act-out.
So when DID this `advanced` stupidity creep in among muslims? Hindus must be excused for obvious reasons.
Laila was black as night , so much so that now her real name is history. Laila means dark-night. MajnouN ( Quias) was crazy for her.
Razia Sultana married Yaqoot, her negro military trainer.
Maria Qubtia ( Maria the coptic) was known for her beauty... All muslims know her
Qaloopatraa was black, negro
Queen Sheba , malkaa-e Sabaa of Yemen was black.
( & none of them are exceptions or newsworthy in history for color reasons. When this stupidity started. I think near abouts 1857 may not be a bad idea... when the muslims started emulating the english. It may shock someone to know today but even the black madrasee baboos put white talcum powder & cream on their faces and even light-red lipstick as late as early-fifties(dominion-days).
Is there any other country ( except these blighted ones) where Stillman`s & EU-cream and other such `` Aa tujhhay bughair goray baap kay goraa bunaadooN`` culture exists.
THe title should have been: Fair & Lusty.
What has LOVE got to do with it?
#16 Posted by ilyaskhan on December 25, 2002 4:17:21 pm
Dont blame the Fair and Lovely wallahs. The wedding photographers have started creating hollywood class beauties by paling and airbrushing the brides so that even their husbands do not recognize them the day after...and wonder, ahem, have they been cheated!
#15 Posted by scout on December 25, 2002 4:17:21 pm
umermurdasa,
yeah man.....it sucks ;)
i`ll take some pics and send them to u
yeah man.....it sucks ;)
i`ll take some pics and send them to u
#14 Posted by hamidm2 on December 25, 2002 4:17:21 pm
......... honestly, i don`t know what everyone is complaining about ...... there are certain accepted standards of beauty in every society and then there are some absolute standards that are quite universal ........... ethiopian and somalian women with perfectly symetrical features can be very attractive to anyone ....... on the other hand, i am sure only bushmen lust for four foot tall bush women with flared nostrils even as they dream of nubian goddesses to the north ............. and even chinamen find michele pfeifer attractive ........... wrong?
............ so we prefer gora rang ........ personally, i am okay with a sanwali saloni mehbooba, but most women from multan/dg khan can be quite frightening .......... as for women from way down south in kerala, what can i say ......... once in a while you see a real beauty inspite of the dark complexion, but generally speaking, it is probably safer staying this side of the jehlum .......... and this is not a sexist thing .... it is true for the men folk as well ........ after all hanuman did go south to procreate ..........
........ but look on the bright side ......... natural selection has a way of fixing things in the long run ......... since all of us prefer gora rang, over the long run all our descendants will be white, or at least wheatish ............
............ so we prefer gora rang ........ personally, i am okay with a sanwali saloni mehbooba, but most women from multan/dg khan can be quite frightening .......... as for women from way down south in kerala, what can i say ......... once in a while you see a real beauty inspite of the dark complexion, but generally speaking, it is probably safer staying this side of the jehlum .......... and this is not a sexist thing .... it is true for the men folk as well ........ after all hanuman did go south to procreate ..........
........ but look on the bright side ......... natural selection has a way of fixing things in the long run ......... since all of us prefer gora rang, over the long run all our descendants will be white, or at least wheatish ............
#13 Posted by khamkhwa. on December 25, 2002 1:57:53 pm
The obsession with `gora` rung is more in the minds of the boy`s mothers than the boys.Unfortunately, girls in our society have also fallen prey to the universal standard of beauty which starts with ``white`` colour, ``hour-glass`` figure followed by social status, education, Biradri etc etc. Sad to say, most of the problems faced by the gori or not-so-gori daughters- in- law are created/generated by the women and sometimes their UKP sons.Ironic but true.
#12 Posted by UmerMurtaza on December 25, 2002 1:57:53 pm
Aw Scout,
What`s wrong? No one sending Rishtas your way. Bua ha ha ha ha haaaarrrr :)
Umer M.
PS. Send me your works. You promised!
What`s wrong? No one sending Rishtas your way. Bua ha ha ha ha haaaarrrr :)
Umer M.
PS. Send me your works. You promised!
#11 Posted by scout on December 25, 2002 8:37:42 am
can someone translate this into urdu and give it to all those desi aunties looking for a `gori chitti` for their ukp sons
i think the older generation is in desperate need of this enlightenment....no matter how educated they get, for them a gori`s a better `catch.`
oh and `wheatish` is j-lo, or salma hayek
i think the older generation is in desperate need of this enlightenment....no matter how educated they get, for them a gori`s a better `catch.`
oh and `wheatish` is j-lo, or salma hayek
#10 Posted by westwind on December 25, 2002 8:08:55 am
It` an enlightening essay exposing the shallowness of our society.
#9 Posted by cmp99 on December 25, 2002 7:03:08 am
Funny that people dont realize the importance of sunscreens.... boys included.
Any articles on female obsession with hair removal ? And how it makes them look darker.
EU cream, Silk-e-pil ...etc.
Time to shave my chest & go to the beach (with sunscreen protection).
#8 Posted by Tidbit on December 24, 2002 11:03:40 pm
Bina u have a very candid way of writing...love it...:)
on a `lighter` note (or is it darker??)...there`s this new magic potion in town...a mixture of a gazillion bazillion creams....apparently most of the half ass dermatologists recommend it to all women desperate to become chitti...i know stillman`s cream bleach is one of the things that goes into that infernal concoction....anyways so u mix all the creams and apply it to your shakal before going to bed at night...results guaranteed...i know of people whove become chitti within a week using it...there`s a catch however...(isn`t there always?)....once u stop using the foul-smelling(?) shit it gives u pimples, horrendously dark facial hair and *drumz roll* skin cancer ladies and gentlemen....but pagal ass friends of mine still continue to apply generous quantities on their munh, haath and paon...
my attempts to chastise them are met with udunhavetobesocattyjustcuzthestorkaccidentallydroppeduinableachcreamkifactory kinda jawab.
Dun u just lurrrrrrrrrvvvvvve being a chitti? *grin*
on a `lighter` note (or is it darker??)...there`s this new magic potion in town...a mixture of a gazillion bazillion creams....apparently most of the half ass dermatologists recommend it to all women desperate to become chitti...i know stillman`s cream bleach is one of the things that goes into that infernal concoction....anyways so u mix all the creams and apply it to your shakal before going to bed at night...results guaranteed...i know of people whove become chitti within a week using it...there`s a catch however...(isn`t there always?)....once u stop using the foul-smelling(?) shit it gives u pimples, horrendously dark facial hair and *drumz roll* skin cancer ladies and gentlemen....but pagal ass friends of mine still continue to apply generous quantities on their munh, haath and paon...
my attempts to chastise them are met with udunhavetobesocattyjustcuzthestorkaccidentallydroppeduinableachcreamkifactory kinda jawab.
Dun u just lurrrrrrrrrvvvvvve being a chitti? *grin*
#7 Posted by _digit on December 24, 2002 4:47:38 pm
In response to Umer, who wrote in #6:
``Personally, I think this dark-light stuff will go away when women get a little more independence so their beauty becomes a secondary issue. ``
Hmmm...I dunno if this desire to go/stay fair, or image consciousness in general, is a function of female independence.
Anyhow, fair skin is beautiful...or so Pakistani`s are taught...where does this attitude come from? Age old Pakistani/Indian attitudes? Our colonial past? Inferiority complex created in part by beamed-in images from the west? Pakistani`s racist nature? Something else? I can`t figure it out...but I have my suspicions...
Umer also wrote:
``There is, of course, the other side to the story where pale skinned people want darker shades of skin. Maybe we should extend this article to people not being happy with what they have and wanting more: Dark skins want to be lighter, light skins want to be whiter, boob jobs, cosmetic surgeries etc. etc...``
Well...I have this nagging feeling that Pakistanis want fair skin to be more ``gora``-like, where Caucasians subscribe to a more internalized beauty myth.
``Personally, I think this dark-light stuff will go away when women get a little more independence so their beauty becomes a secondary issue. ``
Hmmm...I dunno if this desire to go/stay fair, or image consciousness in general, is a function of female independence.
Anyhow, fair skin is beautiful...or so Pakistani`s are taught...where does this attitude come from? Age old Pakistani/Indian attitudes? Our colonial past? Inferiority complex created in part by beamed-in images from the west? Pakistani`s racist nature? Something else? I can`t figure it out...but I have my suspicions...
Umer also wrote:
``There is, of course, the other side to the story where pale skinned people want darker shades of skin. Maybe we should extend this article to people not being happy with what they have and wanting more: Dark skins want to be lighter, light skins want to be whiter, boob jobs, cosmetic surgeries etc. etc...``
Well...I have this nagging feeling that Pakistanis want fair skin to be more ``gora``-like, where Caucasians subscribe to a more internalized beauty myth.
#6 Posted by UmerMurtaza on December 24, 2002 1:25:47 pm
Bina,
The only way I can describe wheatish to you is to get about 100 fire matches, decapitate them and stick them, side by side, on a piece of wood. Voila! That is wheat!
As for the whole colour thing, yeah, during my surgery days, a lot of black people used to ask for Hydrocortison creams which peeled off their upper skins and made them look red like a tomato or as I would say, a baboon`s azz. There`s a great little advert I sometimes see: Dark and Lovely.
In the late 80s, there was a Black singer called Yazz who went completely white (and boys and girls, it was a lil scare watching a black who looked like a fearsome albino) but it was sad to know that she did so cos she felt she was being abused for her original skin.
Personally, I think this dark-light stuff will go away when women get a little more independence so their beauty becomes a secondary issue.
There is, of course, the other side to the story where pale skinned people want darker shades of skin. Maybe we should extend this article to people not being happy with what they have and wanting more: Dark skins want to be lighter, light skins want to be whiter, boob jobs, cosmetic surgeries etc. etc...
Umer M.
The only way I can describe wheatish to you is to get about 100 fire matches, decapitate them and stick them, side by side, on a piece of wood. Voila! That is wheat!
As for the whole colour thing, yeah, during my surgery days, a lot of black people used to ask for Hydrocortison creams which peeled off their upper skins and made them look red like a tomato or as I would say, a baboon`s azz. There`s a great little advert I sometimes see: Dark and Lovely.
In the late 80s, there was a Black singer called Yazz who went completely white (and boys and girls, it was a lil scare watching a black who looked like a fearsome albino) but it was sad to know that she did so cos she felt she was being abused for her original skin.
Personally, I think this dark-light stuff will go away when women get a little more independence so their beauty becomes a secondary issue.
There is, of course, the other side to the story where pale skinned people want darker shades of skin. Maybe we should extend this article to people not being happy with what they have and wanting more: Dark skins want to be lighter, light skins want to be whiter, boob jobs, cosmetic surgeries etc. etc...
Umer M.
#5 Posted by Minhaj on December 24, 2002 1:10:27 pm
Easy to read, funny ..Loved it. The ending is GOOD:
``Because everyone knows that God only admits the fair to heaven, doesn’t He? The rest of us, the ones a little on the dark side, belong somewhere else``
At this stage it does not matter what the author intended when she wrote these last lines. This is impossible to pull of I think for a person, to write some thing open to interpretation but also make it entertaining at literal level. Frankly these kind of lines just come to the mind from ``somewhere`` they can not be constructed. I think Its a feeling that shows up on the monitor. Unfortunatey it does not happen all the time. But when it happens the writer can identify ``it`` and quikly click on save.
``Because everyone knows that God only admits the fair to heaven, doesn’t He? The rest of us, the ones a little on the dark side, belong somewhere else``
At this stage it does not matter what the author intended when she wrote these last lines. This is impossible to pull of I think for a person, to write some thing open to interpretation but also make it entertaining at literal level. Frankly these kind of lines just come to the mind from ``somewhere`` they can not be constructed. I think Its a feeling that shows up on the monitor. Unfortunatey it does not happen all the time. But when it happens the writer can identify ``it`` and quikly click on save.
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