Towards Greater Tolerance

Yasser, your article was most educational. The best aspect was the genuine attempt to reach out to true Indian intellectuals like K. Nayyar. I too am dismayed by the ``saffronization`` of India; a process by which the extremists there want to recreate an exclusionist and over-simplified brand of history and culture. Very similar to the Wahabisation/Talibanization of Pakistani society.
I was also touched by your admission that Shiite and Ahmadi muslims in Pakistan are victimized by extremists. As a recent expat, your writing brings back some optimism for a better Pakistan in the future.
Nonetheless, before we can achieve Jinnah`s vision of a pluralist and tolerant Pakistan, we have to deal (peacefully) with the ``JaisheMohammads`` who have hijacked our soceity.

To:
jaishemuhammad #86: ``I will not lie to please Shias (jews). Allah`s word is final. Learn more about shias (jews). See the proof. `

http://kafir.8m.net/ ``

Sir,

Are you that insecure about your beliefs that you have to manufacture lies against those whose beliefs differ from yours? Don`t you realize that your rabid intolerance and violence against shias (and ahmadis and Christains and Jews) actually makes their case stronger?

I saw your site and it was the cliched, divine hogwash that I had seen hundreds of times before. What about giving Peace a chance? After all, is that not what OUR common religious affiliation Islam translates to?

Back to Yasser, keep up the keep good work and really liked your letter in the Daily times.

Qambar Abbas

#61 by arjun_m on January 31, 2003 2:50pm PT

“President Muhammad Khatami of Iran, who has just concluded a state visit to India, told a gathering in New Delhi that Mahmood Ghaznavi was a marauder who plundered and destroyed Somnath. He added that Mahmood Ghaznavi did not represent Islamic values; he was a military invader and his 17 assaults on India have no relation with Islam or Islamic principles.”

Arjun..yes indeed there is no problem between the Muslims world over and India. And look at Pakistan…they name their missiles after Ghazni and Ghuari…so as to scare India.
The very invaders who are responsible for making paksitan what it is today are so dearly loved in paksitan. No wonder, the ancestors of pakisitni land (hindus) curse them.

Probably..this is the only way Paksitanis can feel happy about being Muslim, to try to truly belong. In order to love their current religion, they have to hate the religion of their ancestors otherwise they might feel guilty or may get confused.

#83 by Naqshbandi on January 31, 2003 8:14pm PT

“To Romair bhai
As to your general question the Muslim world is split generally into a number of sects the main, in our time, being Sunni (i.e. those on the aqida of Imam Ash`ari and Imam Maturidi AND who follow one of the 4 madhhabs of Sunni fiqh (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i, Hanbali) --including the Sufi tariqats within the Sunnis; the Shias (who are divided in subsects: Ithna Isharis[`Rafidis---but see quote below], Zaydis, Ismailis) and the Wahabis/Wahabi-influenced groups (eg some Deobandis, Ahle Hadis) and other ghair-muqallids (those who do not follow a single school of thought). About 90% of the Muslims by the above definition are Sunnis.”


Ufff…such an elaborate Caste System !!! Gosh..no wonder they kill each other. (unlike the caste systems in other religions)

“What happened to the Hindus of Pakistan, the largest group amongst minorities? I suppose they are wandering the desert in Balochistan”

harimau..the hindus were kicked out of the land of their ancient civilization by those who converted. (I am sure their souls are constantly cursing paksitan). And now the few of the leftover scared Pakistani Hindooooooooos hide somewhere so as to earn their bread and butter peacefully

Yaseer Latifey,
You are back to your naraa-bazi.
``Long live Khushwant Signh`s India``
Before it suits your distorted arguments. Your basic premise starts with a reference from Kushwant Singh who argues that Savarkar started of hindutva Hindutva and Bankim and other supported him. I have shown you that his facts are incorrect. Is it not sufficient for you to agree that Kushwant`s other premises may also be be wrong.

Selective quotations do not server any purpose. A pet slogan of yours is ``Jiye Bhutto`` and your pet author is Wolpert. I can quote from Wolpert where he says Bhutto to be a shallow character and basically proves him to be charlton. Will you agree with Wolpert in this case or with Bhutto?
Perhaps best will be to do your own research before shooting your mouth off.

An if selective quotations are what you want, I can quote from Karakoram Students Federations, Baltistan Lawyers Associations and dozens of other organization that state that Pakistan treats even its own muslim minorities like dirt. Would you be receptive to that?

Ref Romair #92

[To tell you the truth, I don`t really know. Nearly all the Hindus live in Sind, I believe. I have never lived in the areas they live in. You would have to ask someone from Sind. I have interacted with, and am friends with, a lot of Christians and a few Parsis (and Ahmedis, if you count them as minorities). I had only met two Hindus in my whole life, before moving to the USA.]

I can understand such a situation if you had lived all your life in small towns in Pakistan. For instance, I had not met a Parsi when I lived as a small child in Tamil Nadu and when I first saw Parsi names on billboards in Bombay, I actually thought they were names of Muslims. Much later, I managed to figure out the differences in the names of Parsis and Muslims.

But I had no problem identifying a Christian or a Muslim because we had them in abundance in the small town I grew up in. I even saw a Sikh there who probably was a government official, 1500 miles from Punjab.

Right now the provision merchant we have used for 20 years in Madras is a Muslim. From being a stone`s throw away from his store, we have moved about a mile but we still buy from him because we have been his customers for a long time. You will find this kind of close proximity between people of all religions in any place in India. In fact, there are definitely more Muslims in any part of Madras than Bengalis or Marathis or Rajasthanis. Walk down any street and you will see a hardware store owned by a Muslim next to a medical shop owned by a Hindu or some such thing. We pay no attention to it because it is not something strange like a calf with two heads or a goat with 6 legs.

Like Veeresh, I am just amazed at the lack of diversity in Pakistan.

Dear YLH,

``Long Live Khushwant Singh`s India``?

Which one is that?

From a family that ``commiserated`` Jallianwalah Bagh, presented a saropa to General Dyer and then got contracts from the Brits in return?

Or the sycophantic ex-Editor of the Illustrated Weekly?

Or the colonial remnants, ruing the day the Britishers left?

You want to have Khushwant Singh and his ilk, you can have him. we`ve taken almost five decades to clean up.

sincerely,

Veeresh

Ref YLH2 #94

[Only Nepal and Bangladesh to him represent cohesive nation-states...]

Bangladesh without West Bengal is a cohesive nation-state?

[even my rabid opponent Harimau has agreed with me on that one.. ]

I must point out that usually it is you who is foaming at the mouth, not me.

[...Lahore`s increasingly liberal night life...]

What`s the closing time for the bars?

[...unlike India where BJP has banned `preaching by visitors` through a central order as Sam Baidya`s letter in Dawn today indicates, Christians are free to preach and propagate their religion in Pakistan legally, though the rise in violence and sectarian terrorism has discouraged them from doing so...]

Yasser, dear boy, the BJP has NOT issued any order banning preaching by visitors. The externment order on the missionary in question, George Cooper, was issued by the local Commissioner of Police in his capacity as Registrar of Foreigners.

If you read the news item emanating from India as opposed to the twisted tales coming out of Pakistan, you will understand that Mr. Cooper had entered India on a 10-year, multiple-entry visitor`s visa which did not authorize him to engage in any activities other than tourism. Pakistanis who violate the conditions of their visas in the US are being held incommunicado in prisons by the INS. Some years back, the Indian guru Bhagwan Rajneesh was picked up by the INS on technical visa violation charges and held in jail for a couple of weeks. Rajneesh was shackled and handcuffed when he was brought in front of an immigration judge and was finally allowed to leave the US after he agreed not to enter the country again. Mr. Cooper was NOT jailed, he was NOT shackled, he was merely told that since he violated his visa conditions, he had to leave India within 7 days.

In fact, the issue of Mr. Cooper was raised in the Kerala Legislative Assembly and the person who defended the government`s action was the Chief Minister of Kerala, Mr. A. K. Anthony. You get no prizes for guessing Mr. Anthony`s religion.

As for freedom to preach and propagate religions in India, that is available to all Indian CITIZENS. Foreign evangelists need only declare on their visa applications that they intend to engage in propagating their religion during their visit to India. If they then get the appropriate visa, they are allowed to hold public meetings and preach to their heart`s content.

As for freedom of conversion, you might want to look at the Northeastern states of India and you will find that the Nagas, the Bodos, the Mizos and a whole host of tribals have converted en masse in the last decade to Christianity. The population of Christians is approaching 50% in some of those states.

You even see quite a few misguided souls in other parts of India signing up to be slaves of Allah in return for a job in Saudi Arabia.

I am delighted to learn that you are engaged in the study of law. I am saddened that you have a long way to go but I have faith in you and know that you will finally master the finer points of law such as staying within the bounds under which a visa is issued to a person. That would come in handy on your next visit to The Great Satan.

Alephnull,

My friend Prem Bodagala, aka Kabuliwallah, a one time Indian Nationalist, introduced to me to the idea of more autonomy and division of South Asia ... I actually argued against it for the ramnifications it might have for Pakistan... He is today committed to the idea of the break up of India and Pakistan into several new nation-states ... Only Nepal and Bangladesh to him represent cohesive nation-states...

By no means am I an advocate of the further disintegration of India and Pakistan, but I think both countries will have to opt for more decentralization than at present.... failing that, yes they might break up.

BTW I still haven`t received your apology wrt Sri Prikasa issue... even my rabid opponent Harimau has agreed with me on that one..


A General Comment:

I find it remarkable how while quoting directly out of the works of two internationally recognized Indian writers who happen to be icons for an age, I still am being accused of little minds of being `delusional` and `concocting half truths`. Let me make it expressly clear that the argument that Pakistan is not based on an exclusivist ideology is directly out of Khushwant Singh`s work especially his biography which is clear on the matter ...

P-Mishra wants evidence of Pakistan`s Hindus on Chowk. Amazing, that now that is the new objective standard to judge the pluralism of a nation by (though PM has effectively ruined that line of argument for him.. please read #56)... The presence of only 2 or 3 Muslims from India on chowk then is baffling... the great and secular nation of India with close to 130 Million Muslims and just two or three muslims with Internet access? Perhaps P-Mishra should have seen the inaugural session of Pakistan`s National Assembly ... There were many Hindus in that session... I am sure the presence of one `Devdas`, would have amused him as much as it amused all the Dilip Kumar Fans in Pakistan.. but then maybe for P-Mishra2, Dilip Kumar is a Pakistani agent and therefore the hit movie `Devdas` (Dilip starrer) was a Pakistani conspiracy anyway... what next ... Wait .... P-Mishra will now reveal to us that Devdas is an Islamic name. Don`t tell me that Justice Rana Bhagwandas of the Supreme Court of the `Islamic` Republic of Pakistan, is also an Islamic fundamentalist. I am sure everyone can see how skewed some people`s sense of judgement is...


But seriously which right minded Pakistani (or even Indian) would want to interact on chowk with a bunch of fanatics? Have you seen me interact here lately? If Chowk wants sanity to return and free speech to prevail it should consider what kind of interactors it wants here... No one has the time to argue with losers with nothing better to do then regurgitate on their diet of hate and rhetoric... After all the number 1 patriotic act for Indians it seems is to bash Pakistan... I know I don`t have the time for this.. between my job, my law studies, Lahore`s increasingly liberal night life and my brand new sporty Honda City of which I am immensely proud.

The reason why the very reasonable conditions of Pakistani Non-Muslims live in should be played down, is because we liberals don`t want the Mullahs to have an excuse to move towards more conservatism ... the legal discrimination against non-muslims needs to go... Non-Muslims should be allowed to run for the highest office of the land.. Even Liaqat Ali Khan, the architect of the first exclusivist document the Objectives Resolution, was very clear about that. He claimed very unambigiously that non-Muslims could be the head of states and the head of Governments in Pakistan.... So it is unfair both to our minorities and our history to refuse them equal citizenship in this regard....

However we are talking about the ground realities... On election day in October, I was going through the electoral rolls to find my name, and nothing made me prouder of my country than the fact that my name Yasser Latif Hamdani was the only Muslim name on the entire page .... the rest were a line of Masihs ... Akram Masih, Khalid Masih, etc That day as I sat in the PPP stall, I realized that in my locality there are more christians than there are Muslims... what I have called Faisal Town all my life, is actually more popular by its real name `Yusufabad` which is its official name, while Faisal Town is just the name of housing society.

A large part of my paternal family is Ahmadi all of them very patriotic Pakistanis... yet Jay constantly attacks me for not writing about Dr. Abdus Salam. I am sure Dr. Salam would be spinning in his grave with the knowledge that Jay of all people, a self committed Paki-Basher. That great patriot, Dr. Salam had stressed his Pakistani identity on more than one occasion and we know that despite official opposition he continued to represent his nation with courage pride and honor. Today, he is the most distinguished alumnus of GC, and every Ravian rubs it in your face that Abdus Salam went to GC in Lahore... every child knows of our great hero of physics and his portraits are displayed on national days.... yet some how jay figures he has a stick to beat us with. He asks us to tell us of one road named after this great Pakistani hero... I say I`ll show him one in every major city, and halls, and institutes and schools, and libraries named after the great man...

The large number of Christian and Sikhs that one sees in Lahore and parts of Punjab does not even match up to diversity of the great city of the South, Karachi... Karachi, Jinnah`s own city, has people from almost every religion of the world residing there... the beautiful churches of Karachi, the temples, the Parsi tower of silence are filled with worshippers even after the terrible events of last year... PM would be able to tell us about this much better, but there seems to be huge Syrian Christian (from South India) population located in Karachi Saddar... unlike India where BJP has banned `preaching by visitors` through a central order as Sam Baidya`s letter in Dawn today indicates, Christians are free to preach and propagate their religion in Pakistan legally, though the rise in violence and sectarian terrorism has discouraged them from doing so... yet even in the days of Zia it was not uncommon for one to open the door and find a beautiful gift of Bible with the most beaming smile of a very friendly belgian or german Nun. That was my childhood, spent in the heart of Lahore`s historic downtown area.

Our Republic, the (Islamic) Republic of Pakistan is a dynamic and liberal country... true that it has been pulled back by the excess baggage of history and people looking after their own petty self interests, but it continues to be a Dynamic country... Like Ayaz Amir has rightly pointed out in his article yesterday... an average voter in Pakistan remains committed to a fair and just Pakistan... Despite all the propaganda against him on religious grounds, Ayaz Amir still managed one of the largest vote banks in the country from a relatively backwater area like Chakwal....

The discriminatory laws, the abuse and exploitation of religion and the mullah`s attempt to Islamise our Republic will be short lived... the true liberal spirit of Jinnah`s Pakistan will persevere and you all will live to see the pheonix like rise of our civilization, the Pakistani Civilization, a civilization based on tolerance, equality, fraternity and justice... inshallah...






Dear Ana,

About the bias, ofcourse Hindus were the victims of similar butchery, that Muslims were ... I see how my sentence could have been misconstrued.

About the figures however, the displacement of between 9 to 10 million people is an accepted fact... Roughly 5.5 Million Muslims ultimately set out for Pakistan, whereas 3.5 Million Hindus and Sikhs set out in the opposite direction. These figures are not mine, these are accepted figures... As for the word ethnic cleansing, it is commonly used for evacuation of one particular group from a certain place, usually their place of birth or residence, based on ethnicity. This could be physical removal or this could be death. I am quite aware that ethnic cleansing is easily taken to mean `Killing`, as the Letters to Editor of Fridaytimes easily substituted killing for ethnic cleansing...

A request: please refrain from calling me beta. That shows an utter lack of respect on your part. Here I am not your beta whatever my age. Despite my best efforts to be friendly to you, you have always been remarkably caustic towards me, deliberately misconstruing my words.
Instead of asking me to check myself, you could have asked your loveable friends here who have once again shown us that intolerance wreaks from their very existence. But then you never did see anything wrong with that did you. Perhaps it would do wonders if you checked yourself, or got yourself checked up whichever maybe more apropriate...
Just some friendly advice.





Dear PM,

Thankyou once again for giving us a balanced and fair view... I think your response needs to be highlighted for all these freaks to chew on:


PM 56


``Gee, no one told poor ol me I was miserable all this time! Or any of my many Christian friends who`ve chosen to live in the land of the not-so-pure. How miserable is THAT!!
But seriously, I think what Yasser tries to drive home is that while institutional discrimination exists against religious minorities in Pakistan, the reality `on the ground` is different. While the ranks of religious bigots have been swelling at an alarming rate over the past two decades, IMO such folks still constitute a small minority of Pakistani Muslims.
And for the bloke who suggested that Pak Religious Minorities are relegated to the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, well, that`s quite untrue. Yes, the bulk of Pakistani Christians belong to the `sweeper class`. However, such has been their lot in life since before they converted to Christianity. Neither can it be claimed that Christians and Hindus are exclusive to such bottom-rung occupations.
And why are Pakistani Hindus not visible on the chowk? Well, statistics might provide a clue... Hindus form 2% of the population. Those with money are either ofthe wadera class in Sindh (read `paDha likhay jahil` --like most of this class) or urban businessfolks, the type you`d least expect to see on a forum such as this.
And just FYI, there WAS a Pakistani Hinud (patriotic one at that!) active here up to a year or so ago. ``


Just to add to that, I know many Hindus in Karachi who are doctors and teachers... Agha Khan Medical University, one of the highly respected and selective schools in Asia, has a lot of capable Hindus studying to be Doctors.

PS I seem to have lost your Email addy... please write to me... I will be coming to Karachi soon...



Note:

Everyone who read this article... I thank you ... and once again I apologize to those whose toes I stepped on, I apologize but truth does hurt.

:)

Long Live Khushwant Singh`s India...

Long Live Patrick Masih`s Pakistan!

Romair . . . I am very amazed without being in any way sarcastic at the simple fact that while living in Pakistan you met only two Hindus while you were growing up . . . a Pakistani I met in India told me in all seriousness that he expected India to be similar to the India he saw in Bollywood movies and that Muslims in India would not be visible . . . I can now sometimes understand maybe even sympathise with the views Pakistanis have on this board and elsewhere about Hindus and Indians.

Didnt you Hindu friends in schools/colleges? Friends of your parents? Or maybe as small shopkeepers, taxidrivers . . . all the sections of society you meet in the course of life?

I am keen to know this, would a young Pakistani growing up in Karachi or Lahore or Jhang not meet more than 2 Hindus (unless they went to UAE or USA or things like that?)?

This is amazing even for me.

Naqshbandi #83: Thanks for the detailed reply. Now can you answer the following question:

I have read the Quran in a lot of detail. I have researched some of it. I have read the views of many sholars, Western, Eastern, Muslim and non-Mulsim on it. I am a scientist by education and profession, and am fascinated by the many statements of the Quran related to science that would not be proved till centuries after its writing. Regardless of how one views it, I think it is the greatest book ever written, or at least that I have read (not that I have read all books in the world).

On the whole, seriously speaking, I consider myself more knowledgeable on the Quran (it is a small book, after all) than any Aalim that I have come across, primarily because the Aalims seem too disconnected from real life in present day, and hence I feel cannot interpret the Quran like I can. I say that with all seriousness.

I have yet to meet or read an Islamic Aalim who has impressed me. I have found all of them to be too self-righteous.

I have read quite a bit of the Hadith. I have my own copies of Sahih Bukhari and Muslim. I am close to being convinced that there is absolutely no way all the Ahadith can be authentic. Most of them, actually make a lot of good common sense. But some don`t. And, how in the world is it possible that all those verbal sayings of the Prophet could have been copied exactly, nearly two hundred years (the author of Sahih Bukhari wasn`t even born till 810 CE/ 194 AH) after the Prophet. There is absolutely no scientific way of proving that the sayings did not change, somewhere in between.

If I say something today, what are the odds that two hundred years later, it will be remebered exactly, regardless of the sincerity of the person trying to recall or research what I said. Can you even remember what you yourself said, two days ago, much less two hundred years ago? How can anyone else remember it? And what are the odds that the context in which I said it will be understood by the person recording it even now, what to talk of two hundred years later.

So regardless of how many Ahadith were disregarded by the writers of the Hadith, there is no way they can say with 100% certainity that the ones they did include in the books, are genuine.

Based on that, I think the usage of Hadith as the basis of so many Islamic arguments has caused more harm than good. So I do not consider Hadith an authentic part of Islam. They should be guiding common sense principles, but the ones that seem odd should be disregarded. So if people cannot find something in the Quran, they should look at the Hadith, but if what the Hadith says seems incorrect, they should disregard it, and figure the solution out on their own. Otherwise, they are giving Mr. Bukhari the same status as Prophet Muhammad.

As for the remaining Imams etc., I don`t even know who they are. I don`t follow any of them. Nor do I have any interest of doing so. Not because I dislike them, but because I think they are not required to be followed anywhere in the Quran. The Quran came before any of them.

And I consider the Ulema who pass fatwas to be an unnecessary beaurecracy, since they are spoiling the concept of a religion which is not even supposed to have fatwa-passing ulema to begin with. I will listen to their fatwas, if they promise to listen to mine, since I consider myself as big, if not bigger, a religious scholar as them.

So, basically Islam to me is the Quran, which I sincerely believe to be the book of God (the moment I stop believing that, I will leave the religion of Islam). The reason I believe in this is because of the scientific facts described in the Quran, which as I mentioned earlier, excite the scientist in me. As well as due to Islam`s concept of egalitarianism of all people being equal.

My imam/scholar/aalim/religious leader etc. is Prophet Muhammad. That is where I draw the line. I look at his life, through the Quran and Hadith, without giving the Hadith the status of law. Everyone after him, is a normal guy like me, as far as I am concerned - some of the people after him, like his close colleagues etc., obviously thru their actions have attained social stauses far higher than I ever will. However, the people/ulema/imams etc. (that you always list) have never appealed to me, and I consider them just like me. Neither of us (Imam Ghazali etc. and I) has a right to tell each other, how to be a Muslim. And no one gave us the right to pass fatwas. We should only pass fatwas on ourselves.

On all religious issues, I have never bothered to consult the, ``ulema.`` Considering myself an, ``ulema,`` and Islam an ulema-less religion, I just consult the Quran myself. It is quite easy to read and understand, and was written for the common man.

As for women, I look at the lives of Khadija, Ayesha etc. for practical examples (as well as Ayat in the Quran for theoretical examples). The first was a widowed CEO of her own multinational trading company, who liked one of her salesman employees and proposed to him. The second was a very confident, aggresive, scholarly lady, who spoke her mind to everyone, including to the Prophet.

Now, based on all of this, could you tell me exactly where I fit into the hierarachy/chart of Muslims that you described. I am asking this seriously.

Also, could you tell me, exactly why someone would have a right to put me in that hierarchy to begin with? How can they be sure they are better Muslims than I am, and thus have that authority? And could you tell, how the Hadith can be proven to be 100% unchanged and authentic?

Please explain the above, without using dreams and things of that sort as an argument. Islam is too practical and too scientific a religion, to be mixed up with fantasy.

jaishemuhammad #86: ``I will not lie to please Shias (jews). Allah`s word is final. Learn more about shias (jews). See the proof. `

http://kafir.8m.net/ ``

I am not a Shia. But I must say your arguments are all nonsense. It`s people like you who give Islam a bad name. You are a misguided soul. May Allah show you the straight path.

harimau #85: ``What happened to the Hindus of Pakistan, the largest group amongst minorities? I suppose they are wandering the desert in Balochistan.``

To tell you the truth, I don`t really know. Nearly all the Hindus live in Sind, I believe. I have never lived in the areas they live in. You would have to ask someone from Sind. I have interacted with, and am friends with, a lot of Christians and a few Parsis (and Ahmedis, if you count them as minorities). I had only met two Hindus in my whole life, before moving to the USA.

Romair
Islam is a complete code of life. No pick and choose like Hindu kafirs. Islam recognizes no boundaries. Those false boundaries are for kafirs. The nation of Islam is one. Shia (jews) can never be Muslim`s friends. Kafirs can not be allowed to hold Muslims hostatge in the conquered lands of Islam.

I will not lie to please Shias (jews). Allah`s word is final. Learn more about shias (jews). See the proof.

http://kafir.8m.net/

Yasser:

The more I read your article, the more convinced I am on the following:

1. Articles such as these are excellent for the consumption of Pakistanis, who get into debates and discussions face to face with Indians and others on an informal basis e.g. on college campuses. When it is face to face, Indians usually are receptive and understanding of their own weaknesses. Also, they are much more polite and humble, perhaps drawing their code of ethic from their religion.

2. In a virtual environment such as this interactive board, it is very difficult to engage Indians in a value added debate, as most of them are here to pass time and vent out their anger against Pakistanis on an unknown account (Kashmir seems to me as being the only one). I have a weird feeling that most of them are students or those having lot of free time to post messages after messages that only project hate and flare tempers.

3. Arguments can be used to project Pakistan on media. How can that be done is a question left for strategists. This task is going to be hard though given the totally unnecessary protest rallies and burning of flags by our Mullas, who lack wisdom for tackling enemies in the arena of diplomacy and media, where the wars are being fought and won these days.

Thank you once again for your excellent article.

Dear Harimau,

Many Hindu (and Buddhist) minorities in the Vedic Republic of Pakistan are actually disguised as high-caste Arabs & Americans, and are currently busy in Gilgit / Baltistan areas.

Baluchistan has been set aside for the time being.

sincerely,

Veeresh