How Muslims Can Win The Coming Wars!

I want to say that the importance of the spiritual revolution is that until our hearts are purified and until we internalise Islam and become Mu`mins we can never hope to achieve success as Allah has promised us victory in the Koran conditionally with the condition being that we are MUMIN. Those with Iman.

The `wars` in the title was deliberate to make the title more eye-catching as the main message of my essay was that Muslims have to return to Traditional Islam and that includes reintroducing the science of tasawwuf (sufism) into our lives; almost all the great Muslims of the past in every field including all the great ulama and fuqaha and the mufassireen and the great leaders and the great mujahideen have all been sufis as well. In fact it is probably correct to say that no great Muslim has existed who did not accept the importance and validity of Sufism. From the great Hassan Basri, saint and hadith scholar in the first century to Imam Shamyl the great Chechyn mujahid of the last century, they have all agreed that Sufism is central to Islam.

Sufism is the light in the heart of Islam and it is rooted in shariat and purifies the hearts of Muslims. Another benefit is that only by returning to Traditional Islam can we become unified and stop this internecine conflict which is tearing us apart.



Finally it is a misconception that a spiritual revolution is incompatible with self-defence too as brother Urstruly said. I am not saying do not defend ourselves in Kashmir etc but to fight with wisdom and with purified hearts. That needs Sufism.

(TAhmed:
There have indeed been times of great tolerance and respect for others in muslim culture)
If mere translation of some Greek/Sanskrit works makes the early Islamic period glorious and tolerant civilization, then what can we call the civilizations that really produced those works. Logic says that those civilizations must be much better than the Islamic civilization.

The above article is implying that Muslims should lay low and tolerant because they don`t have power. Does it mean that once Muslims get the big Mojo they should start pillgae, plunder and conversions.

This article explains why Muslims demand secularism when they are in Minority and start demanding Islamic laws once they come into majority

tahmed

``There have indeed been times of great tolerance and respect for others in muslim culture: After all, it wasnt the camels that translated ancient Greek and Sanskrit books into Arabic. ``

......... here we go again! ........ and what happened to the pre-islamic culture in arabia, iraq and persia ?........ what happened to the idols that the syeds and the quraish worshipped in the kaaba and what happened to the zoroastians who were virtually exterminated (or converted)? ..........there was a flourishing culture in persia and other parts of the islamic world before the muslims went on the war path (not like the wasteland of north america before columbus, give or take a few aztec pyramids ) ........ so who is to say the persians wouldn`t have translated the greek on their own - what does islam have to do with it? ...... one could say that, given the history of islam over the last six hundred years, the early days were an anomaly left over from previous civilizations ..........

........... all this talk about the glorious days of a tolerant islam, when pigs flew and caliphs ruled, is highly exagerrated - it makes the faithful feel better about themselves but it also pushes them onto sirat ul mustaqeem - the wrong path .............

.... of course, you could make the same arguments about mideval christianity, but the big difference is that they have come to accept the fallacy of their beliefs and superstitions while we still cling to ours ..............

A very good article and it does point out some of the root problems of the Muslims today and how this has affected the Ummah globally. How many Muslims do we see practicing even the basics of Islam today?

The Awliya-Allah have been proven to be the best example for Muslims to follow and Subhan’Allah you mentioned Hazrat Khwaja Moin-ud-Din Hassan Chishti Ajmeri (RA) who converted 9 million Hindus to Islam and also realise that it is not restricted to 9 million, mainly because of Hazrat Khwaja Ajmeri a third of the Muslim population lies in the sub-continent. Islam has spread through such personalities and those who they have inspired. I am not saying that the sword should be decommissioned in fact the so-called Muslims leaders should begin spending some of that mammoth wealth on weapons to at least INDPENDNTLY protect their own country.

My point is that if Allah Ta’la wishes there will be nothing left of USA no matter what weapons it has, if you don’t believe this then you are not entitled to call yourself a Muslim. The first stage is to have the correct Aqeedah and this is increasingly lacking more than ever in the Muslim world today. If we can’t get past the first stage how can we look at the final stages?

I randomly glanced through some of the replies and I was shocked to some extent, but I expected it some what; what can I say, after all this is why we are in such a mess.

Once we can solve the intra-Muslim problem, one cannot win

any wars.

Muslims need to look inwards first and develop tolerance for their

own before being critical of the non-Muslim world.

Ras

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A very good article and it does point out some of the root problems of the Muslims today and how this has affected the Ummah globally. How many Muslims do we see practicing even the basics of Islam today?

The Awliya-Allah have been proven to be the best example for Muslims to follow and Subhan’Allah you mentioned Hazrat Khwaja Moin-ud-Din Hassan Chishti Ajmeri (RA) who converted 9 million Hindus to Islam and also realise that it is not restricted to 9 million, mainly because of Hazrat Khwaja Ajmeri a third of the Muslim population lies in the sub-continent. Islam has spread through such personalities and those who they have inspired. I am not saying that the sword should be decommissioned in fact the so-called Muslims leaders should begin spending some of that mammoth wealth on weapons to at least INDPENDNTLY protect their own country.

My point is that if Allah Ta’la wishes there will be nothing left of USA no matter what weapons it has, if you don’t believe this then you are not entitled to call yourself a Muslim. The first stage is to have the correct Aqeedah and this is increasing more than ever in the Muslim world today. If we can’t get past the first stage how can we look at the final stages?

I randomly glanced through some of the replies and I was shocked to some extent, but I expected it some what; after all this is why we are in such a mess.

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Careful Pakistan --

dont touch the Holy Grail of ``American Interest`` -- hear loud and clear the Imeprial Order from Emperor Bush announed by his -- Imperial Orderly for Browbeating Asians -- the one and the only -- Zalilzad.

Musharraf MiaN -- don`t you ever think of touching Karzai:

``KABUL, April 19 (Reuters) - The U.S. special representative to Afghanistan warned Pakistan on Saturday after talks on border clashes that anything that undermined the Afghan government`s stability was a challenge to U.S. interests.

Zalmay Khalilzad said Washington wanted good relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the consolidation of the U.S.- backed government of President Hamid Karzai was in Pakistan`s interests.

He was speaking in Kabul after talks with Pakistani officials in Islamabad.

``Success of the new Afghanistan`s stability is in America`s interests and any effort that undermines that stability, that threatens it, is a challenge to America`s interests,`` he said.

nasah #70 She is the green tea specialist. I am the Lipton black tea expert (220 seconds in the microwave, let stand for a couple of minutes, reheat if you wish, add sugar to taste).

Hamidm (continued after tea break): Coming back to hamidm who seeks, like Halaku Khan, to burn, pillage and destroy anything having anything remotely to do with Islam: OF COURSE there is plenty of good in every culture, including islam. There have indeed been times of great tolerance and respect for others in muslim culture: After all, it wasnt the camels that translated ancient Greek and Sanskrit books into Arabic. And Maimonides flourished in muslim Spain like immigrants flourish in the anglo-saxon countries nowadays.
I think your concern is that with people who try to sneak in the bad with the good in Islam, with the latter serving as the Trojan Horse in which the former hides. I guess one has to be careful here, but let us not throw the horse out along with the mullahs (or baby with bathwater).
Gotta run again. But hope you see my point.

ATTN Sadna: Reply posted on temp`s Kashmir board.

re. Nasah: ``so you don`t make even your own t -- t ahmed?``

LOL! Liked that! Actually, the t in tAhmed is for testy (ask Ali87), or maybe tellyouallwhyyou`rewrong tor maybe just timeblessed (ask anyone on chowk!)

Or maybe just ``Taubah!``

:)

zafarA:
``I suggest you mend your manners and approach either hamidm2 or tahmed``
If someone asked you for directions, you would probably see Go East and West.:-)

zafarA:
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``I suggest you mend your manners and approach either hamidm2 or tahmed``
If someone asked you for directions, you would probably see Go East or West.:-)

Nasah:
``Canadians are so right -- we Americans are such incorrigible BASTARDS. ``
Arre bhai hamne kabhi bastard-vastard nahin kaha. Kyon humaara hukka-paani bund karvaane pay tulay hain?

Reply Yantric #47

``Do you guys deny that Sufis believe in personal relationship with Allah or not ? ``

Sufis do. Given that, which part of your initial statement might STILL be somewhat ill informed/incorrect? For reference:

``Now, what I understand about Sufism is that Sufis believe that a personal relationship can be reached with Allah or God. This however, is against one of the great beliefs on which Islam is built -that is an ordinary mortal cannot establish relationship with God and only the good old MO was supposed to be His Agent and only he had the sole monoply after he assumed prophethood.``

Let me give you a hint. What makes you think that an ordinary mortal cannot establish a relationship with God according to non-Sufi Islam? Some would say that one of the emphases of Islam is bypassing priests and other `interceder` types.

Perhaps you should do a little more homework, O Diligent One, and this time avoid the trite predigested conclusions I suspect that you imbibed the last time round. (Aroun Shourie, while a wonderful, committed man with a lot of integrity is not the best place to start your exploration of Islam. Neither, I hasten to add, is Mr Khomeini...I suggest you mend your manners and approach either hamidm2 or tahmed.)

On a segue, somehow I suspect that you tend to talk about religion and culture in the world using terms like `market share`, `promotion`, and `soft power`. Correct?

Best regards

``but my wife informs me that tea is ready.... ``(tahmed)

so you don`t make even your own t -- t ahmed? --

et toi aussi tea ahmed:-)