Pakistan Team for the World Cup 2003

Australia might be playing a little too much of cricket of late, there is a definite possibility of the burn out factor creeping in. Already McGrath and Warne are down with injuries. But then champions are made of different stuff.

Some years back a friend`s cousin had come from Pakistan and he told us that in the gully or mohalla cricket out there they tape the tennis ball and play and that is one of the secrets of the fast bowler assembly line. Does anybody know more about this????

#16 - As far as i can recall, here it goes

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The World is Coming Down, The Flags are up
whos gonna be #1 , whos gonna take out the cup
who will be, who be the king
its once in a life time chance
gonna see, gonna see who rules the world

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.... hope this helps ;)

shankar #18: ``Umair Bradman``

Umair Tendulkar will do fine. I think Umair Bradman is pushing it a bit.

Given the same number of people and budget, we can see what the results are in Indian-Pakistani contests. In wars, there are 8 Indians for every Pakistani and $4.5 Indian dollars of equipment for every Pakistani dollar of equipment. So it is hard for Pakistan to match the odds.

But in cricket, there are 11 Indians and 11 Pakistanis. And every Pakistani and Indian has the same budget of equipment. And well, we know the results. Need I say more..... :)

But, speaking at a South Asian level, all the Asian teams have thoroughly gotten their butts kicked recently by goras - Pakistan by South Africa, Sri Lanka by Australia (and England), and India by New Zealand, and Bangladesh by everyone.

I suppose Pakistanis and Sri Lankans can take solace in that they were kicked around by the two best teams in the world. Added to this, Sri Lanka is a tiny island. Bangladesh`s excuse is that it is a new team. But what happened to India?

New Zealand is at the bottom of the barrel in cricket. The whole country has a population of 4 million people. A small Bombay neighborhood probably has more people than that. India probably has more than 4 million people named Tendulkar or named Venkatraghvanshiviramakrishnanbuddhappati. So a country of 1.1 billion people who just play cricket beaten thoroughly, in a series, by a country of 4 million people who play a lot of other sports also. What the hell is going on?

I think Waqar is now getting too old for the Pakistan team, and is now down to Afridi`s level in bowling. He will probably retire after the World Cup. At that point, maybe India should give him Indian nationality, and he could become the opening strike fast bowler on the Indian team :-) Maybe, then India would have a shot against New Zealand......

And if India is really basing its stance of not playing Pakistan in cricket, then it should not play Pakistan at the world cup either.....

Umair Bradman,

{{India has refused to play Pakistan anywhere. Will India also refuse to play Pakistan in the World Cup?}}

India is going to play the World Cup PRIMARILY for philanthropic reasons. Pakistan DESPARATELY needs a morale boost, these days:)! What better morale boost can Pakis ever ask for?; than trashing India, hahn?! You couldnt do it on a battlefield in your entire history, but we certainly LET you trash us on the cricket & hockey field!:))

From henceforth let NO Paki ever claim that we Indians are not magnanimous!!

{{then what exactly is the point of refusing to play Pakistan at other venues?}}

Yaro, magnanimity ki bhi koi LIMIT hoti hai!:)))

I think the BEST comment of the whole discussion was when Rozaiba said:



. . o o O ``Statistics are meaningless`` O o o . .







Dear FirstSlip(#14),

If Sultan Zarwani is Coal, Waqar Younis is an insect crawling inside a dark coal mine deserving to come under a miner`s foot and die!


Dear KhamKhwa(#15),

I wasnt shocked to hear what you said because I had read your nick :)

as alway, political infighting is the unknown factor in ditermining the fate of the team. people like salim elahi are being selected because they are in the camp of waqar younis. i would also include that baffoon younis khan in this group as well. younis khan has not performed against top teams like aussies and sa. yet he is an automatic selection. team would have been better off had other players like faisal iqbal been given an extended run. saeed anwar was also dropped from african safari because he did not get along with waqar. and what great decision that turned out to be. it is going to take few matches before saeed becomes dependable.

pakistan team therefore is going in the initial matches with only two dependable batsmen (inzi and youhana) with lower middle order is backup (razzak, latif, wasim). bowling attack is the best in the world even with waqar in the team. overall pak is better than sa. will have a much harder time with the aussies. hope internal difference can be sorted out. good luck pak.

re Pankaj #11:

``Hey the record is in India`s favor in the worldcup :-) ``

But the intelligent money is on Pakistan :)

Whenever Pakistan and India play after a long time(remember 1978/79? and 87), Pakistan wins.

Waqar is probably still the only steady bowler in the Pakistani side. Shoaib leaves after bowling a couple of overs running in from the boundary line, Wasim needs his insulin after 4 and Saqlain is too busy figuring out whether he is a leg spinner or an off spinner. Not to speak of the Afridis and Azhar Mehmoods who are too busy chasing skirts/hash the night before to be a credible threat on the field.

re Field Marshal who seems to have played test cricket also, why bring the issue of India not playing Pakistan into the discussion? Why don`t you duel with the likes of arjun_m and leave a decent topic of conversation alone?

later
-sac

You guys may have the better team, you have faster bowlers, better spinners, a longer batting order, more skill, more mental strength, more everything.....

BUT WE GONNA KICK YOU A$$ES IN SUN CITY BABY!

(That`s right..... India has NEVER lost to Pakistan in a World Cup match. Not even in `92 when Pakistan won the cup. And who can forget Bangalore`96?)

HAHAHAHAHA

Always a good sport,
SM

Hmm I have an unreleated question, I have been looking around for absolutely ages, for the 1992 World Cup soundtrack..the song went something like ``the World is coming down``

kicked out elahis man......salim elahi suckss...simple .... afridi ...well...dotn knoww...if he gets going ..well then he even bowls well..otherwise...a waste of wpostion.....so basically pakistan is left with 10 players... :P... why the heck is azhar in the team.... v cud have had shoiab malik..atleast he feilds well....2.... then...taufiq omar is only a test player....dont destroy him like mohd wasim.... btw where is mohd wasim... explaination needed man.... he wud b thousand times better than salim elahii..wudnt hee..??? ...and then... plzz no razzaq at no3... hez a good pinch hitter ....let him b at 6 or 7 ... rest is all finee....
wat do u think

#14
You wouldn`t have been shocked if you had read the nick ;)

#3:
- Waqar Younis can neither bowl nor bat, he is only playing as a ``Captain``, which reminds me of Sultan Zarwani, the old UAE captain

I am still under the shock after reading this. And have lost my words, thid is by far the stupidiest thing I read in years, do you just wake up and write whatever the hell comes to your mind ? Sultan Zarwani is not better than 100s of Gali Muhalla Cricketers I have come across in my life and Waqar Younis is better than (even at this stage of his career) 100s of cricketrs at the international level. So dude you are comparing a JEWEL with COAL, and I hope you understand I dont mean to say this Zarwani character is a jewel.

Firstslip.

India has refused to play Pakistan anywhere. Will India also refuse to play Pakistan in the World Cup? If not, then what exactly is the point of refusing to play Pakistan at other venues?

whatever the team or its combination, the ozzies are going to kick butt.no
one comes near them.

sac

``The Pakistani team is no exception. They`ll beat India, lose to Zimbabwe``

Hey the record is in India`s favor in the worldcup :-)

Romair:

Statistics are meaningless.

The ODI batting average of Steve Waugh hovers around a measly 31.2 runs an innings. Sachin Tendulkar`s average is well over 40. But if I were to have a team, I`d take Steve Waugh over Tendulkar any day. How often we`ve seen great sports personalities who`ve piled up ALL the records, but still ended up second to those capable of heroic feats?

That is why I wasn`t happy at
seeing Youhanna switched from batting at number five to coming in at three. Even if he can pile up the runs for himself, his real potential, and far more significant for a team, of coming in to see the innings through at five, is lost.

And yes, Wasim is still the best bowler in the world. Any one who opens and closes the bowling (during which most runs are scored), and ends with those figures is a success. Wasim knows he`s the best. Waqar knows Wasim`s the best.

PagalInsaan:
I agree about Afridi. He needs to be hanged. Waste of position. I have the same feeling about Waqar - he`s just not an inspiring figure. See Wasim`s bowling is elegant to watch. Waqar lost his elegance after that shoulder operation- that`s why now you see him get most of the batsmen out with outswingers rather than his unbelievable inswinging yorkers he had going in the early nineties.

There are dozens of bowlers in Pakistan who can bowl at 90 miles plus. Speedometer readings are meaningless with such run of the mill bowlers. Shoaib is the real deal though.

rkhan:

out of no where i think azhar mehmood should be tried as an opener. he played those excellent test innings early in his career in south africa.

all said and done, Pakistan`s fate may lie on what pitch they play on. the recent south africa tour showed how miserable the team performed on most of the pitches and managed to win only on the pitch that paralleled the one at home grounds.