Goats, Terrorists, and the People Who Love Them

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Ref ahmadzai #2

[With only slight changes in the text, the same scenes can be reminiscent of Northern Alliance`s mercilessly killing the Pakhtoons before taking over northern towns of Afghanistan.]

Or, when the same Pakhtoons took over Mazar-e-Sharif and mercilessly killed the Shias.

Or when the Indonesians killed the East Timorese.

Or when the Pakistanis killed the Bangladeshis.

Or the Partition riots of 1947.

It is all a question of whose ox is being gored.

Ref ahmadzai #6

[Expecting a response from resident sangh parivar memvers on this interactive board along the lines, these scenes could be reminiscent of many an atrocities on the Muslims at other points of times in the history also.]

I am afraid I spoke too soon.

Of course it is an atrocity only when Muslims are killed. Shias, Ismailis, Khojas, Ahmadis, etc., do not count as Muslims.

Mr. Ahmadzai, let me ask a question on Islamic theology here. You or any of our resident mullahs can choose to answer it.

If jihad is the struggle of Muslims against oppression and injustice, why is it that not a single Muslim individual, organization or nation-state ever called the struggle of Bangladesh for independence a jihad?

Ref no_more_a_slave #10

[It doesnt it begin to describe what Pakhtoons did to Hazaras for years.]

Or what the Taliban did to the Afghan women.

Mr. Ahmadzai, please answer one question: do you believe women should never leave their homes unless acoompanied by a male relative?

rozaiba #4 I dont think it is correct to say that people do not sacrifice animals for ``sawab`` and only for the meat. Since if it was, they would not wait for Eid to satisfy their hunger for meat. Although no doubt there are people whose eyes see a cow but whose brain sees seekh kababs and chapli kababs. And for whom a lamb is not a noun but an adjective, as in ``lamb chops``.
In any case, I am all for vegetarianism (except some lean chicken meat and fish) - beef and mutton are great if one is aiming for cholestrol lined arteries and seeks the thrill of having a heart attack. It is hardly a recommended (except in small amounts) part of a healthy diet.
I do think it is nice to share food (as people do) with the poor on Eid. But maybe if we changed the tradition and started giving the poor plain cash, or even used the same money to buy dal-roti that could then be given to many more poor people, the poor would benefit much more. And that would be real ``sawab``, I think.

Dear Bina,

For a moment, the title led me to believe that you had written an investigative peace on bestiality.

>I am not opposed to animal sacrifice, and I hold it as my God-given >right as a Muslim to sacrifice animals and distribute their meat to the >poor on Eid.


Those goats, camels, and cows are not killed for their meat to be given to the poor. One more cultist lie.

tahmed:

few do it for sawaab. almost everyone does performs the sacrifice to satisfy the base instinct of food.

if one don`t like people being pulled by that instinct, one should be a vegetarian.

Get a grip Bina!!

Urstruly at # 3

I would like to refer you to the following para from the article:

``Go out to visit your relatives as is customary on Eid day and you will see the streets swimming in rivers of blood, innocent goats hanging from every tree outside every house with the skin being pulled off it while children laugh and point at the sight of the denuded goats. Bags of pale, bulging offal litter the streets like naked German tourists sunbathing on the beach at Majorca. Butchers squat at the traffic lights, their clothes covered in blood, carrying baskets of sharp knives and cleavers and comparing notes about how much the prize cow kicked around while its throat was being slashed and how fast they were able to finish the job.``

With only slight changes in the text, the same scenes can be reminiscent of Northern Alliance`s mercilessly killing the Pakhtoons before taking over northern towns of Afghanistan, of BJP`s extremists killing Muslims in Gujrat of India and of Indian army leaving bodies of innocent Kashmiris in the open fields after killing them in fake encounters and in custody.

Expecting a response from resident sangh parivar memvers on this interactive board along the lines, these scenes could be reminiscent of many an atrocities on the Muslims at other points of times in the history also.

I am opposed to animal sacrifice, and I hold it as my conviction as a non-Muslim to not sacrifice animals and throuw their inetestines and lungs out on the street. I do understand, though, that both dog and god love it. It also brings joy to winged and wingless angels called flies and ants.

Animal sacrifice is good for the world sans humanity. Life eats life to survive and we live in the a world dominated by insects. We are just a minor species in a sea of life forms who all love the cycle of life and death of goats for obvious reasons. This clearly exemplifies the just nature of loving god, who acts democratically, for the sake of majority of life forms. A further proof of his preferences is the heaven on earth called rain forests. He created them for the pleasure of diverse life forms of majority species.

Majority is authority and god rightfully sides with the majority rule on the streets on the day of slaughter. It is very egalitarian from the point of view of a goat. The goat loves an untouchable, Brahmin, Syed, Mullah, rich or poor equally when they come face to face, with a sharp knife in hand.

Oh, by the way, be careful about slaughtering accurately. No, I am not talking about tying down four legs, pulling the tongue outside the mouth or facing kaaba; always make an incision to the belly before dismembering the head otherwise it might be considered less than perfect sacrifice, commemorating the unsolved mystery of neighbor`s missing goat.

However, the most delicate part of sacrifice is removing skin with minimum cuts. Traditionally leather making and disposing corpses was untouchable profession in the subcontinent. They are the ones who would have been most concerned with flawless removal of skins. So why are Syeds and mullahs now so concerned about faultless removal of skins? Hmmmmm....I think I have solved this complicated mystery!!!!

Another remarkable tradition is quickly removing liver and frying it. It is often served when the deskinned goat is still hanging to tree. Goat`s liver pieces are devoured in front of the goat. Only if goat can stand up as start singing: `jigar chalni hae, qatil kha raha hae.....`

Happy Valentine day to......1, 2, 3,..............21.5

........To me, religion is a private matter...........what people do in the name of religion is...........well.......unimaginable.....I think we should all look at ourselves before pointing at others........

Binoo
reading this...i`m this much closer, *leaving a narrow gap between thumb and index finger* to becoming a vegetarian :-)
lve. ana

p.s...haven`t been to your blog in a few days...aankh ab kaisi hai?

ahmadzai
It doesnt it begin to describe what Pakhtoons did to Hazaras for years.

I could never get the idea behind ``qurbani``. Nobody is really sacrificing anything. Its just a big show off for your neighbours and relatives. The only good it does is leave permanent marks on children`s minds to haunt them later on in life.