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sadna #18,

Yes, indeed, the new immigration laws could be considered anti-muslim for one simple reason; they are only being applied to Muslims. There are thousands, perhaps, millions of illegal Mexican, Chinese and Indian immigrants, among others, in the US. Why is it, then, that only illegal immigrants from muslim nations are the primary target of immigration laws? If muslims or pakistanis should not expect themselve to be above the law, why should non-muslims or non-pakistanis be above the law? Regardless of how you attempt to justify this, the fact remains these laws are indeed aimed at muslims alone.

The US indeed has every right to make it own laws, but those upon whom the laws apply also have every right that the laws be applied fairly, equally and justly.

ahmedzai #25 you write ``I will discuss this important aspect of the whole thing with my brother for my own satisfaction. In the meantime, good that you pointed it out. being educated people, we should not generalize everything.``
That is one of the most balanced and reasonable responses I have had on chowk when pointing out some perceived flaw in what they wrote (and of course no one is perfect). It is a pleasure to have a few people like you on chowk to make up for the surprisingly large number of posters who seem never to have matured beyond kindergarten. :-)

ahmadzai #26
I wasn`t commenting on the news report, I posted it fyi.

Corruption in India is much more deep rooted than what a single media company can attack on its own steam. The press is more usually paid off than threatened. Even the lengthy campaign against the Bofors payoffs(begun by the Indian Express, continued by The Hindu) hasnot gone very far wrt the legal process, except that Rajiv Gandhi lost the elections in 89 and Win Chaddha had to flee the country.

tahmed at # 9:

I regret responding to your post with delay, as I had missed reading it completely.

My younger brother told me that that both the vocalist and the lead guitarist were a bit skeptical in approaching the audience on his side of the stage as compared to any other. Besides, they kept looking at the company with certain level of uncertainty. Later, they were totally comfortable with them as they sung along.

In retrospection, I think that you are right. It could be beard or it could be some well-behaved brownies for the first time attending a RATT concert. Come to think of it, how many non-whites would have attended their shows?

I will discuss this important aspect of the whole thing with my brother for my own satisfaction. In the meantime, good that you pointed it out. being educated people, we should not generalize everything.

Indian, Veerseh & Sadna:

If Musharraf`s nephew was arrested, he has been released. But how about British PM? He has been handed over a serious fine on a parking rule violation.

The much criticized NAB in Pakistan has actually arrested many politicians and even militarymen on corruption charges. But when Tehelka exposed the corruption in BJP lead Government, Tehelka disappeared.

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Mushy`s kin arrested.

Dont worry guys he will disown him just like he disowned his own dead soldiers at Kargil!!!!!!! Although we Hindoooooooo Indians cremeted them with full honour and according to Muslim rituals.

veeresh #21 Damn. Thats all we need. Another Musharaff coming to Pakistan. :-)

Nephew of Musharaf arrested, sad for him, but grandson of Jinnah marriage reception at Bombay Race Course yesterday, that`s worse!!

(Spot the puns spot the puns, don`t take off)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/musharraff.nephew/index.html

Nephew of Pakistani president arrested
Tourist visa expired in 1994
From Kevin Bohn
CNN
Friday, March 7, 2003 Posted: 7:47 PM EST (0047 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The nephew of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was arrested in the United States on February 19 on a charge of having an expired visa, a spokesman for the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told CNN.

He was released Friday but could be deported after a hearing before an immigration judge, the spokesman said.

The nephew, Amir Javed Musharraf, registered with immigration authorities February 19 as part of a Justice Department program requiring men from 25 countries, including Pakistan, to be interviewed and fingerprinted.

Musharraf, who was living in Memphis, Tennessee, had been in the United States since 1994, the spokesman said. His tourist visa expired in 1994.

The registration program, called The National Security Entry Exit System, has garnered criticism. Several hundred people living in the United States have been arrested after reporting to immigration authorities.

Civil rights groups have criticized the initiative for mainly targeting Arab and Muslim men, but immigration officials have said it is needed to help the government keep track of who is in the country from nations where anti-American opinions are popular.

The programs was being administered by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which was absorbed by the Department of Homeland Security on February 28.

Move

bed, u have seen some action,
doors, some slam.
Landlord, u may remove
every chip, scuff, stain: who knows
what reflections
old mirrors project in the dark

- Melissa Terras

Its always sad when lives get uprooted, sorry to hear that its happening to your relatives.

But by any chance is this what this writeup is saying - that if the US law says a person must leave after his visa expires, the law is anti-Muslim and a Muslim by obeying the law, is being persecuted ?

Hope you are not because its totally unrealistic to expect to be above the law simply because you are Muslim or Pakistani. The US has every right to make its own laws, and whether post and pre Sept 11, noncitizens break these laws at their OWN risk.

No wonder the name Saniya Ansari sounded familiar. She also writes (wrote?) for Mehraab, the online magazine from NC.

all said and done, Lahore Lahore Ay!

Well crafted moment there, Rehan. The last para was nicely moving with its mix of emotions.
My best wishes for your relatives.

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