Zafar Anjum February 27, 2003
#89 Posted by Tipu on March 1, 2003 10:26:31 am
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#88 Posted by Ras on March 1, 2003 10:26:31 am
I agree with most of this writing.
The chosen path for Indian Muslims should be self reliance and they
must not depend on outside help (Pakistan, Middle East) to solve their
problems. The pursuit of a western education as charted out by Sir Syed
should remain the top priority.
Ras
#87 Posted by scout on March 1, 2003 9:27:36 am
hamidm2,
great posts on this board....hope the ukp desis bickering here read them carefully.
great posts on this board....hope the ukp desis bickering here read them carefully.
#86 Posted by scout on March 1, 2003 9:27:36 am
over-population, poverty, disease, religious fanaticism.....maybe you `self-righteous` desis should start worrying about that than idiotic jinnah/gandhi debates
#85 Posted by jay on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am
SPORTS IMITATES POLITICAL REALITY,
Pakistan lost to india in the world cup. After nearly half the game, the pakistanis were simply going through the motions, their head drooped, knew that they have lost to india. The slow leasurely pace of the indian win is no different in the political scene, pakistan is slowly loosing ground in the world stage as a jihadic country. They knew they are loosing, but due to pride and pressures and expectations from the on-llokers and the people who have payed for it, the pakstanis had to undergo the slow humiliation, no different from the sneding of jihadists as though they will make, kashmir banega pakistan.
At the endo of the game only two names remain, tendulkar of india for his achievemnets and soab aktart for his failure, no different from the founding leaders of the two countries.
Tendulkars initial knock layed the foundation for indian success, the failure of soab laid the foundaton for pak defeat. Soab had pace, but it had no direction, no different from the initial policies of pakistan.
Sports imitates life, political life and in one more world stage pakistan is defeated, may be even disgraced, not able to make the last six, first time in world cup history.
Pakistan lost to india in the world cup. After nearly half the game, the pakistanis were simply going through the motions, their head drooped, knew that they have lost to india. The slow leasurely pace of the indian win is no different in the political scene, pakistan is slowly loosing ground in the world stage as a jihadic country. They knew they are loosing, but due to pride and pressures and expectations from the on-llokers and the people who have payed for it, the pakstanis had to undergo the slow humiliation, no different from the sneding of jihadists as though they will make, kashmir banega pakistan.
At the endo of the game only two names remain, tendulkar of india for his achievemnets and soab aktart for his failure, no different from the founding leaders of the two countries.
Tendulkars initial knock layed the foundation for indian success, the failure of soab laid the foundaton for pak defeat. Soab had pace, but it had no direction, no different from the initial policies of pakistan.
Sports imitates life, political life and in one more world stage pakistan is defeated, may be even disgraced, not able to make the last six, first time in world cup history.
#84 Posted by nasah on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am
it was about time to hang that bloody-beaked, blackhooded Vulture -- Narendre Modi -- by the nearest polling booth in Himachal Pradesh --
thanks -- Garibaldi`s daughter/Gandhi`s daughter-in-law -- FOR reclainming the almost lost dignity of India --
NOW work for -- the Grand Coalition -- at the Center wiithout DELUSIONS -- as the `JUNIOR` partner -- to oust that Babri Criminal -- fugitive Advani from Home to his Tihar Home.
sooo -- afterall Gujrat WAAAAS an ANAMOLY!
viva la Indie
thanks -- Garibaldi`s daughter/Gandhi`s daughter-in-law -- FOR reclainming the almost lost dignity of India --
NOW work for -- the Grand Coalition -- at the Center wiithout DELUSIONS -- as the `JUNIOR` partner -- to oust that Babri Criminal -- fugitive Advani from Home to his Tihar Home.
sooo -- afterall Gujrat WAAAAS an ANAMOLY!
viva la Indie
#83 Posted by veeresh on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am
Hello YLH, it is good and colonial and very white of you to support Khushwant Singh, now all you need is a membershp of the Republican Party and maybe the NRA as well as the KKK and you will be all set.
However.
regards/Veeresh
However.
regards/Veeresh
#82 Posted by nasah on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am
it was about time to hang that bloody-beaked, blackhooded Vulture -- Narendre Modi -- by the nearest polling booth in Himachal Pradesh --
thanks -- Garibaldi`s daughter/Gandhi`s daughter-in-law -- FOR reclainming the almost lost dignity of India --
NOW work for -- the Grand Coalition -- at the Center wiithout DELUSIONS -- as the `JUNIOR` partner -- to oust that Babri Criminal -- fugitive Advani from Home to his Tihar Home.
sooo -- afterall Gujrat WAAAAS an ANOOOOMAAAAALY!
viva la Indie
thanks -- Garibaldi`s daughter/Gandhi`s daughter-in-law -- FOR reclainming the almost lost dignity of India --
NOW work for -- the Grand Coalition -- at the Center wiithout DELUSIONS -- as the `JUNIOR` partner -- to oust that Babri Criminal -- fugitive Advani from Home to his Tihar Home.
sooo -- afterall Gujrat WAAAAS an ANOOOOMAAAAALY!
viva la Indie
#80 Posted by mohar11 on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am
It seems COngress won in HP even after a unfocused campaign marred by faction ridden politics (which sadly has become hallmark of this Grand Old Party of India). That means people must really be hating BJP, at least in HP.
Well - it was about time somebody showed BJP guys the door and a message - it is all about governance stupid!
Well - it was about time somebody showed BJP guys the door and a message - it is all about governance stupid!
#79 Posted by harimau on March 1, 2003 8:01:53 am
Ref YLH2 #70
[tahmed,
You said `If Jinnah ordered the killings`... I think you have taken the wind out of P-mishra`s argument...
Ofcourse we know historically and all historians have confirmed that he didn`t and even the sourceless cut and paste job that p-mishra has done confirms that he didn`t...]
Yasser, dear boy. Please explain Jinnah`s statement to the effect that `today (Direct Action Day), we have unsheathed the pistol`.
By the way, I notice that you have been quite silent about your hero`s idea of minority population as hostages. That is a very democratic concept, I suppose.
But as you keep telling us, Jinnah is a strict constitutionalist. That is why he could probably have written the hostage policy into Pakistan`s constitution and be quite legal about it.
Now that you are back in Pakistan, have you started adding a halo to Jinnah`s portrait? Start off with the postage stamps that you personally use and then you can graduate to the banknotes you handle.
[tahmed,
You said `If Jinnah ordered the killings`... I think you have taken the wind out of P-mishra`s argument...
Ofcourse we know historically and all historians have confirmed that he didn`t and even the sourceless cut and paste job that p-mishra has done confirms that he didn`t...]
Yasser, dear boy. Please explain Jinnah`s statement to the effect that `today (Direct Action Day), we have unsheathed the pistol`.
By the way, I notice that you have been quite silent about your hero`s idea of minority population as hostages. That is a very democratic concept, I suppose.
But as you keep telling us, Jinnah is a strict constitutionalist. That is why he could probably have written the hostage policy into Pakistan`s constitution and be quite legal about it.
Now that you are back in Pakistan, have you started adding a halo to Jinnah`s portrait? Start off with the postage stamps that you personally use and then you can graduate to the banknotes you handle.
#78 Posted by rsaxena on March 1, 2003 8:01:53 am
re: ylh
...still wanking off over jinnah, still deluding yourself, still looking for glory on internet message boards...
...anyone with half a brain and smarts would`ve been studying politics or international relations at the kennedy school at harvard...instead, look at your sorry ass...shame...
...still wanking off over jinnah, still deluding yourself, still looking for glory on internet message boards...
...anyone with half a brain and smarts would`ve been studying politics or international relations at the kennedy school at harvard...instead, look at your sorry ass...shame...
#77 Posted by ferozk on March 1, 2003 8:01:53 am
To summerize the arguments/debate on this thread so far...
...Indians hate Pakistanis and Pakistanis hate Indians; Indians think they are better than Pakistanis and Paksitanis think they are better than Indians...LOL
Ciao
...Indians hate Pakistanis and Pakistanis hate Indians; Indians think they are better than Pakistanis and Paksitanis think they are better than Indians...LOL
Ciao
#75 Posted by tahmed32 on March 1, 2003 8:01:53 am
mohar11 #62 I agree with you and Hamidm that personalities are not important. I also agree with you when you indicate that the real problem - the common enemy for India and Pakistan and indeed for all mankind - is widespread poverty. I also agree with hamidm when he writes that we should start thinking for ourselves rather than accept all sorts of things as foregone conclusions.
I am glad that I finally see something that that you an hamidm have written that I can agree on.
I also am pleased to see (as you indicate) that the Congress won at Himachal Pradhesh. Furthermore I am pleased to see that nazarhayatkhan (ex- pakistan military) outline accurately the damage done to pakistan by the military.
I am glad to read words of praise from ylh2 concerning taking the wind out of p-mishra`s argument.
With everything going so well, I think I shall cash in my chips and quit while I am ahead.
cheers to all! :-)
I am glad that I finally see something that that you an hamidm have written that I can agree on.
I also am pleased to see (as you indicate) that the Congress won at Himachal Pradhesh. Furthermore I am pleased to see that nazarhayatkhan (ex- pakistan military) outline accurately the damage done to pakistan by the military.
I am glad to read words of praise from ylh2 concerning taking the wind out of p-mishra`s argument.
With everything going so well, I think I shall cash in my chips and quit while I am ahead.
cheers to all! :-)
#74 Posted by tahmed32 on March 1, 2003 8:01:53 am
mohar11 #62 I agree with you and Hamidm that personalities are not important. I also agree with you when you indicate that the real problem - the common enemy for India and Pakistan and indeed for all mankind - is widespread poverty. I also agree with hamidm when he writes that we should start thinking for ourselves rather than accept all sorts of things as foregone conclusions.
I am glad that I finally see something that that you an hamidm have written that I can agree on.
I also am pleased to see (as you indicate) that the Congress won at Himachal Pradhesh. Furthermore I am pleased to see that nazarhayatkhan (ex- pakistan military) outline accurately the damage done to pakistan by the military.
I am glad to read words of praise from ylh2 concerning taking the wind out of p-mishra`s argument.
With everything going so well, I think I shall cash in my chips and quit while I am ahead.
cheers to all! :-)
I am glad that I finally see something that that you an hamidm have written that I can agree on.
I also am pleased to see (as you indicate) that the Congress won at Himachal Pradhesh. Furthermore I am pleased to see that nazarhayatkhan (ex- pakistan military) outline accurately the damage done to pakistan by the military.
I am glad to read words of praise from ylh2 concerning taking the wind out of p-mishra`s argument.
With everything going so well, I think I shall cash in my chips and quit while I am ahead.
cheers to all! :-)
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