Muslims in India: Communalism vs. Backwardness-Minority Syndrome

#82 Posted by nasah on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am

it was about time to hang that bloody-beaked, blackhooded Vulture -- Narendre Modi -- by the nearest polling booth in Himachal Pradesh --

thanks -- Garibaldi`s daughter/Gandhi`s daughter-in-law -- FOR reclainming the almost lost dignity of India --

NOW work for -- the Grand Coalition -- at the Center wiithout DELUSIONS -- as the `JUNIOR` partner -- to oust that Babri Criminal -- fugitive Advani from Home to his Tihar Home.

sooo -- afterall Gujrat WAAAAS an ANOOOOMAAAAALY!

viva la Indie

#83 Posted by veeresh on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am

Hello YLH, it is good and colonial and very white of you to support Khushwant Singh, now all you need is a membershp of the Republican Party and maybe the NRA as well as the KKK and you will be all set.

However.

regards/Veeresh

#84 Posted by nasah on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am

#85 Posted by jay on March 1, 2003 9:01:06 am

SPORTS IMITATES POLITICAL REALITY,

Pakistan lost to india in the world cup. After nearly half the game, the pakistanis were simply going through the motions, their head drooped, knew that they have lost to india. The slow leasurely pace of the indian win is no different in the political scene, pakistan is slowly loosing ground in the world stage as a jihadic country. They knew they are loosing, but due to pride and pressures and expectations from the on-llokers and the people who have payed for it, the pakstanis had to undergo the slow humiliation, no different from the sneding of jihadists as though they will make, kashmir banega pakistan.

At the endo of the game only two names remain, tendulkar of india for his achievemnets and soab aktart for his failure, no different from the founding leaders of the two countries.

Tendulkars initial knock layed the foundation for indian success, the failure of soab laid the foundaton for pak defeat. Soab had pace, but it had no direction, no different from the initial policies of pakistan.

Sports imitates life, political life and in one more world stage pakistan is defeated, may be even disgraced, not able to make the last six, first time in world cup history.

#86 Posted by scout on March 1, 2003 9:27:36 am

over-population, poverty, disease, religious fanaticism.....maybe you `self-righteous` desis should start worrying about that than idiotic jinnah/gandhi debates

#87 Posted by scout on March 1, 2003 9:27:36 am

hamidm2,

great posts on this board....hope the ukp desis bickering here read them carefully.

#88 Posted by Ras on March 1, 2003 10:26:31 am

I agree with most of this writing.

The chosen path for Indian Muslims should be self reliance and they

must not depend on outside help (Pakistan, Middle East) to solve their

problems. The pursuit of a western education as charted out by Sir Syed

should remain the top priority.

Ras

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#91 Posted by SameerJB on March 1, 2003 1:53:53 pm

Hor choopo TNT da ganna. Neither One nation, nor two nation; it is fractured nation because of the hangover from independence movement.

Violence breaks out after India`s World Cup win over Pakistan

Violence has erupted in India after the Indian cricket team defeated Pakistan in their World Cup match.

Several shops and vehicles have been burned and at least one person injured in Gujarat.

Rioting was reported in at least six neighbourhoods in Ahmadabad, the region`s largest city.

One man was sent to hospital after being stabbed, say police.

In Vadodara, police shot tear gas shells in three areas to disperse rioting mobs after three cars and a restaurant owned by a Muslim man were set alight.

#92 Posted by rsaxena on March 1, 2003 1:53:53 pm

re: jay #80

...come on, at least leave this match out of your obsession with jihad...winning and losing cricket matches is just a game, not real life...

...i thought it was a nice gesture that the two teams decided before the match to lineup, shake hands, and exchange official team ties...

#93 Posted by SameerJB on March 1, 2003 1:53:53 pm

I also agree with hamidm. No matter who started Two-Nation and One-Nation theories, they are not just irrelevant but bad too. They were bad because they overshadowed and supressed real issues as well as real nationalism of various subcontinent nations. One wanted to unite diverse nations and other wanted to breach each and every nation of subcontinent. It divided Bengali, Sindhi, UPite, Panjabi and other nations.

One nation theory was the creation of Christian missionaries who created Congress in ordwer to soften any possible resistance movement, just as the purpose of conversion to the religions of ruling elites in the history was to soften any possible resistance from masses. In the end, it remained true to its purpose and British packed their bags with minimum sacrifice of material or life plus continued sucking up to Liz II as commonwealth head.

Muslim League was also created for the same purpose to keep a check on Congress. The earliest proponents of separate Muslim nation, like Bala Lahori, were more anglophile than average folks.

Except for UP and Bengal, people were not enthusiastic about the hoopla of One and Two nations BS and were coerced into taking sides with the help of all gutterial(?) means.

French west Africa, British east and south Africa and Spanish south and central America did not go the subcontinent way to have one or two nations although Spanish speaking world had lot more in common than Panjabis and Bengalis.

Now nations like Balochis and Tamils have to contribute to the mother countries defenses when they are not threatened by anybody. Balochistan is more part of middle east and Tamil Nadu more of a southeast Asian nation. Islamabad and New Delhi should not be anything more than Strosssberg (sp?).

The freaks obsessed with limiting the discussion between Gandhi and Jinnah or Hindu and Muslims are either ignorant or hypocrite. That is not the peoples` history. It is history of the elite who have always exploited the situation to their advantage. No ML or Congress leader was killed during the partition riot. In fact they became rich overnight by grabbing the properties of departing people. The Chaudhries of Gujrat is the most well-known example of it. History repeats itself! The person responsible for the murder of more than 2000 Sikhs following assassination of Indira Gandhi is the Indian equivalent of the Chaudhry of Gujrat.

The Islamic fundamentalism suncontinent style, sangh parivar, BJP, JI, Jehadis, Modi, madrassahs are the legitimate children of the independent movement. Nehru, Jinnah and Gandhi were stupids, if they did not envision the extension of their super egotistical policies. They might have been ambitious idealist but knew nothing about the dimensions of ambitions. The periphery of their ambitions would turn out to be stronger than the core of their ambitions. That makes whole exercise irrational and emotional.

If Bengalis and UPite were so interested in independence, they should have fought for themselves without dragging rest of the apolitical poor people into it. Before the trio of sissys, Panjab tried for independence on its own under Ghadarites and failed. The sissy trio refused to help them. Now they presided over their fate on table to divide, separate electorate and communal rioting. The people who would pee in thier pants even thinking about fighting and hurting British were the bravest communal killers belonging to Congress and Muslim Laegue.

Saddam is hated because he has killed more of his own people than enemies. Gandhi, Nehru and Jinnah presided over the killing of more people of subcontinent than killed in all the Indo-Pak wars and communal rioting in India and Pakistan since then.

They fought to inherit the history of Mughal empire and British Raj than anything else. They should not restricted their ambitions to where they belonged instead of trying to win the support of people who did not care and had no opinion about them.

Subcontinent would have been better off without Gandhi-Nehru-Jinnah, Congress and Muslim League.

#94 Posted by stuka on March 1, 2003 2:24:46 pm

Waisey this is a good article. My previous post was aimed exclusively at Urstruly the Mullah who keeps harping on Junagadh and Hyderbad but studiously manages to avoid the basic question that how could Pakistan ask for Kashmir, Junagadh and Hyderabad and yet call itself principled?

#95 Posted by stuka on March 1, 2003 2:24:46 pm

more carap from Mullah Urstruly

``The way the things are going, I see another Pakistan emerging from the womb of Hindustan. The division in 1947 was never fair......the unjust re-occupation of Kashmir, Junagadh, and Hyderabad by Hindus, right after the formula of partition was agreed upon, has spurred the wheel in a certain direction, and that direction is the emergence of another Pakistan. ``

These Mullahs who are sons of pigs act like pigs themselves..keep on eating and eating and fattening themselves on the blood of us Kafirs.

Both Kingdoms, Hyderabad and Jungadh, were Hindu majority areas. The Nizam of Hyderabad should forever be grateful to Hindus that his family was allowed to live in India after what the Razzakars did to Hindus.

The great Hypocrite Urstruly talks of Human rights, whereas these Mullahs conveniently define Non Muslims as Non Humans. He talks of the injustice of Kashmir while demanding the right to rule over Hindu majority areas in Junagadh and Hyderabad.

Plug your ears against the rhetoric of the Mullahs of Lashkar e Taiba and assorted Urstruly types and keep your swords sharp.

#96 Posted by stuka on March 1, 2003 2:56:11 pm

`` I think most of them don`t have very `happening` lives in any case so all they do every day, day in and day out, is write hate messages to each other. Maybe it makes them feel full-filled, satisfied, superior``

Hmm, I thought it was just time pass. I guess I am not getting my money`s worth as I don`t really feel fufilled. Satisfied maybe, but not fulfilled..or superior for that matter!!

:)