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THE REAL CRIME OF PAKSITAN IS TO HAVE IT`S BORDERS ALONGSIDE WITH A TERRORIST STATE OF INDIA. I ONLY WISH SUCCESSION OF KHALISTAN PASSES ON.

At least they serve other drinks in East Punjab.

For us lactose intolerant people that is.

This Headless Chicken is turning out to be a Rooster.

Ras

Pakistani Guards Shot Dead at U.S. Office
By ERIK ECKHOLM


SLAMABAD, Pakistan, Feb. 28 — At least one gunman — and possibly several — attacked Pakistani police officers standing guard outside the American Consulate in Karachi today, killing two officers and wounding five others and a passerby.

No Americans were harmed in the shootout, which occurred about 1:30 p.m., as the officers were beginning their midday prayers. None of the attackers gained entry to the consulate itself, which is heavily barricaded
////Finally jihadic pressure is bursting at the seems, unable to enter kashmir or afghanistan, at last they are killing their own.

Let me read that again, according to tahmed and temporal, ``jihad is the killing of non-innocents``, that should obviously make the pak police guarding the US kafirs a ligtimate jihadic target. I am happy, the jihadist are assured of heaven, of course they will have to quote tahmed and temporal.

#8 nazarhayatkhan, I was completely touched by your post. :-))

Hey Jay -

Tonite is the nite. If I see any obsessed, complex-ridden, kala kaleecha, ugly, hindoo barnshoots like you disprecting our proud paki land and its pathetic cricket team, I`ll enforce respect by letting them have it...

#20 etc. by jay on February 28, 2003 8:29am PT

KABUL Feb. 27. Afghanistan is looking for effective cooperation from Pakistan in curbing the growing activity of the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda across the long border between the two countries.

In an interview to The Hindu and Third Eye Television network here, the
Ahmedzai,

``Afghanistan President, Hamid Karzai, conceded that a decisive victory over the forces trying to destabilise the new government remained to be achieved.

After their ouster from power at the end of 2001, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda terrorists are believed to have taken shelter in the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the last few weeks, the frequency and intensity of the attacks inside Afghanistan from these elements have been on the rise, causing concern here and in Washington``

/////The above is really news for you. Your claim that the attacks on afghanistan is from hektemyer is total nonsense, the pakistanis, read taliban are back in base. It is rather comical that another country is also talking of cross border terrorism.

Jihadism in pakistan is deep rooted, the first generation of children of TNT who studied in the classes to identify the hindus are out in the streets supplemented by the automatum from the madrassas, marching in the streets...kill...murmuring...kill. Now there is going to be more sectarian killings, more attacks in kashmir to compensate for the jihadic sink that afghanistan was.

Two neighbouring countries are talking of cross border terrorism, no one knows much about iran.

HOPELESS CHICKEN,

There was hope for afghanistan, it was occupied by the madrassa products from pakistan and other arab countries. There is hope for iraq, only the ruler need to be changed. There was hope for bangladesh, only the pak troops had to be kicked out.

There is no hope for pakistan. The entire society, including the western educated are supporters of jihad in its simplest form, kill, and it is remarkable that not even a single voice even on the anonymity of chowk is heard against this. Only hope for the neighbouring countries is to contain pakistan, like the old saying, ``1000 daisy cutters a day keeps the pakis away``.

The Karakoram Express



On Feb 6, I travelled to Lahore by the Karakoram Express. I was very impressed with the shining get-up of the newly-acquired bogies from China.

I wished the ultra-modern exterior of the bogies had been matched with the aligning of the height of the platform with the floor of the bogies, thereby eliminating the use of stairs. The stairs are awfully short and straight one below the other. They have been terribly designed. Compared to them, the stairs of our own old bogies are far more elegantly designed and can be more conveniently used.

Is the width of these bogies smaller than the width of our bogies? The corridor is too narrow to comfortably reach one`s compartment. At this high fare rate, I was under the impression that it would be a two-tier bogie, but I found it was a three-tier one. In all fairness, the height of the bogie can take only two berths, upper and lower, with no room for the middle berth. The space between the two opposite berths is too narrow. The lower berths are also very narrow and it is very uncomfortable to lie on them.

As a rule, two toilets should have been provided on each side of the bogie, but the bogie I travelled in (No 7) had only one toilet in the corridor I entered from.

Even the third-class bogies on long-distance Indian trains provide wash-basins with a mirror in the corridor. But there is nothing in the compartment of the Karakoram Express.

On the day of my journey, the train had already left the Karachi station when it was announced that the dining car had been damaged and thus had not been attached. The passengers were advised to make their own arrangements for food and drink.

The running staff did not have the courtesy even to apologize for the failure of the railway administration to provide meals and breakfast to the passengers. There was a public-speaking system in the bogies, but it proved to be a source of mental torture, instead of being of some comfort.

Will the Railways authorities do the needful to make travelling by trains somewhat comfortable?

SALAHUDDIN MIRZA

Lahore

///Above is the price of hatred when combined with stupidity. Chinese coaches made for the small chinese frame cannot accomodate the larger pakistanis. No place to fill water in the lotta. When one has to rely on the hand outs of others, one has to accept what comes with it.

I have to say the first headless chicken artice was more amusing..but there were nuances in this piece that left their mark...
I think we are in delusion if we believe guns dont play a major role in paksitani daytoday life.The armed bodyguards, the vaderas, the daciots -the list goes on. The fact that people need armed guards goes to show there are others out there that possess the means of harming (read killing) them ie guns. So the problem is the guns. Pakistan is no gunfree pretty country and lets accept that. Things havent improved since the coming of our saviour general..it just seemed so at the beginning...infact things are pretty much the same, if not worse. khaki power .
Jay, what documentary is this that you talk about? is it possible to get it in north america?

Jay at # 15:

``I can understand, for you pakistanis it is nothing, but I come from a country where the policemen are usually unarmed, at most a lathi, at best a 303 rifle.``

Hey I did not know we have a Western Samoan as a registered member on this website

;)

BLIND CHICKEN

``The military owns the best farmland and several of the largest industrial conglomerates. Retired or active-duty military officers run the ports, postal service, electric utilities, sports federations, telecommunications authority, culture ministry, mineral development agency, anti-drug police, railroads, civil aviation authority, national shipping company and Pakistan`s biggest steel mill. They hold top administrative posts at the best universities. Many ambassadors are retired military officers.

According to a western columnist, Pakistani officers also inhabit a kind of parallel universe that insulates them from the hardships endured by other Pakistanis. Many live with their families in manicured, colonial-era ``cantonments`` with good schools, well-maintained roads and reliable power and water supplies.

``Under an arcane point-based system that dates back to the British Raj, the military also rewards its senior officers by allowing them to purchase agricultural and urban land from the army`s vast inventory of real estate at prices far below market value.

A number of these properties are grouped into `defence societies` in tiny suburbs of Karachi and other major cities. The societies are administered by the Defence Housing Authority, which ensures the provision of municipal services. Officers who acquire such land often develop it as rental property or sell it for hefty profits.``

//ABOVE IS FROM DAWN OF TODAY. tHE HEADLESS CHICKEN HAS TRAVLEED RIGHT ACROSS PAKISTAN, funny it did not come across any of the military establishments.

ally 13,

I can understand, for you pakistanis it is nothing, but I come from a country where the policemen are usually unarmed, at most a lathi, at best a 303 rifle. That reminds me, we had a retired brigadier as neighbour, he was allowed to keep a rivolver and according to the law he has to produce the gun and the amunition every year at the police station. He also has to report immediately if he has used any ammunition. One day the old general used the revolver to shoot a snake, and the puny police man took the gun away from the general saying that he should have killed the snake with a stick, and does not know when to use the gun.

You must be rembering this, a few years ago, in the office of asma jahangir, a father shot his daughter dead, he was invited by the pak president a few months later for a photoshoot honour him for the right thing he did. The president was then called the chief executive, his name is mushy.

Ally. please, dont be a headless chicken, open your eyes and see the legal killings in pakistan. Here is a statistics for you, in karach in the past 10 years only 5 people have been arrested for sectarian killings.

Jay,

I just came back from Pakistan 2 weeks ago, the guns onthe street were not apparent to me, not last year not this year... some ppl need armed protection, thats why they have it, its not common, if u haven`t lived there or been there recently stop commenting such BS on a country u dont know of...

Nice change in pace for the headless chicken - from being funny in the first one to more observant in the second one.
Rural punjab in pakistan is one of those places where time seems to stand still and the occasional sounds of rustling leaves only accentuates the silence.
And urban panjab on the other hand is one of those places where the occasional silence is simply a reminder of the how noisy it is.
I think I am getting nostalgic.

BLIND CHICKEN,

The chicken is undoubtedly headless, it is blind. One thing that is apparent to any one even watching any documentary on pakistan is the guns in its streets. There was a documentary which showed kowasjee and najam sethi, they all had armed escorts, armed with AK47. There awas another scene with some well to do youg female journalist, again armed guards. Every one who had been to pakistan talks of weapons with every one in the streets. News reports talk of men being shot at intersections for a few rupees or to hijack vehicles. This is well and truly by a headless chicken, or another grand attempt to remove the jihadic stains offf pakistan.

While many Sikh men stop supporting 5-Ks in Diaspora, women remain true to their 1-K of Sikhi, with Kaur middle name.
WGKK-WGKF

Dusty hot plains...stilled breezes...lifeless trees...old war memories...painfully blinding blue skies...yellow colored fields...ribboned roads...and...smiles of the people passing by...this is how I remember the villages of Punjab on the Pakistani side...is it the same on the Indian side...?...is Indian Punjab the same way?

Ciao

#Chowk has a real India-Pakistan flavour. I like this. It is nostalgic and it takes me back to my father who use to talk about his Sikh friends, about the khatrees in the village and the all powerful Angrez.

He spoke of those simple times of those simple people who were living their simple lives in the villages. There was no wheat, rice or tea. People ate makkei and Bajraa (maize). The fruit was the wild peelo. Once in while a cattle was slaughtered and that was a big day.

Waris Shah and Baba Bulay Shah`s poetry. Harvest season. Melas. Holy and basant. Love affairs near the well.

No toilets. Ladies went out in the fields at night, sat in a circle and did the thing.

Good crops. Plenty of food. No tensions. No TV. No telephone. No religious or ethnic animosities. Every one made fun and joked with eachother. Just living togather.

The village mulla went to each house in the evening and got a Roti.

Sunrise. Fields. Bells of the oxen. Heat. Evening. Gup Shup. Moonlight. Early dinner. Sleep.

so it goes on - they were not missing any thing.

We, with everything, still want more.

Ally, Wagha is actually a very small pinD near border inside Pakistan...about a mile or so inside. Attari is also a pinD about a mile inside on Indian side. Attari is a historic town in many ways...it is actually called Attari Sham Singh after the name of one of the generals of Ranjit Singh. Sham Singh`s descendents still live there. One of Ranjit Singh`s grandsons and a maharaja after Ranjit Singh..Kanwar Naunihal Singh was married to Sham Singh`s daughter. There is some local history on that.
Secondly, when British controlled Punjab, the first few miles of Railway line they established in Punjab was from Amritsar to Attari...about 20 miles. and they set up one of the first Christian missions there. There are quite a few Punjabi christians in this town. It basically grew to a small town during British time ..one reason being in the middle of Lahore and Amritsar. when I was in high school we used to go to Attari high school for sports tournaments, friendly matches Kabaddi, volleyball, kho-kho etc and also for our annual exams.

On your second question from the other board. I have no idea how Punjab looks from the sky. I think Lahore and Amritsar are the only 2 big towns in the area with in 100 miles. As you know my own home place is exactly midway between the two...few miles South West of Wagha/Attari....I remember in 70/80`s when the electricity revolution really took off in India/Pakistan....during dark summer nights on the roof tops I saw first time my uncles talking about the loo`(light)...a dim light hemispherical outline in the sky going up from land and saying this one on the left is where Lahore is and that one on the right is Amritsar..As kids we used to wonder about it but later on we used to see it all the time during dark nights and talk about it. In some corner of my mind I doubted that...but when I came to USA one night we were driving in central California and we could see similar loo` from miles away...and I said..aah..so it was from Lahore...I think land is very flat and 18 miles is not that long a distance.

There was a web site on internet which had satellite pictures taken from miles away of the sub-continent...you could actually zoom and pan on the map to easily spot the cities...will try to find it.

excuse my ignorance, but i`ve never actually been... are Wagah and Attari the same town with different name, or two seperate towns that happen to be very close or just two stops built because of the border?

DB

Its a shame these kos minars and sarai gates are falling apart, theres so much history written in them, i hope one day someone looks after them, after all its nice to see these things when ur travelling

Does anyone know the exact route of original GT road? As for as I know the original GT road crosses border few miles south west of Wagha/Attari. The first mark on the Indian side is RajaTaal(Raja`s Talaab/pool). There is still ruins of a little guest house and a pool built by some Mughal king. Then the next stop is Sarai Amanat Khan. a closely packed village with a huge double door and DiyoRi decorated with beautiful art on West entry point, a large street(main street) and a similar exit door on the East end. Inside was a Sarai(rest house), shops etc. There were checkpost type small minar on out side the village to monitor traffic from a distance. The whole road(now only a link road) was lined with little towers(kos minars) every few miles guarded by a guard/signal officer. From Sarai Amanat Khan the next big stop is Sarai Nurdin(now only called Noordi(n)) few miles west of Tarn Taran. The modern GT road from Attari to Amritsar is not the original. Amritsar town was established by Sikhs a peaceful distance away from the original GT road used by Mughals.

GT road is marked with Sarais and kos-minars. Most of the kos-minars and Sarai gates are falling apart with little funds to keep them up.

Sounds like headless chicken is stuck between Wagha and Attari station throughout the article except inbetween momentary visits to some other towns. First he started flying but as soon as he saw lights in Amritsar he started driving on GT road...the way Headless Chicken was jumping back and forth..paying no attention to whether Sarhid comes first or Goraya..it made me feel dizzy. It was like hovering over the buffet table for dinner without tasting anything. But I am hungry. I am back on GT road...on Attari bus stand. I look left and right there is a tea dhaba..smosas, pakoRay..paneer smelling so good. I turn 13 yr old again.

Sounds like headless chicken is stuck between Wagha and Attari station throughout the article except inbetween momentary visits to some other towns. First he started flying but as soon as he saw lights in Amritsar he started driving on GT road...the way Headless Chicken was jumping back and forth..paying no attention to whether Sarhid comes first or Goraya..it made me feel dizzy. It was like hovering over the buffet table for dinner without tasting anything. But I am hungry. I am back on GT road...on Attari bus stand. I look left and right there is a tea dhaba..smosas, pakoRay..paneer smelling so good. I turn 13 yr old again.

Where is agent OO-Gulab Jaman to investigate the plaigiarization in this story? This does not seem to be picked up from Chowk.com.

And how dare you credit Ashoka for building a road between Kabul and Pataliputra. Don`t you know that it was built single-handedly by Sher Shah Suri in 3 1/2 years from scratch.

I don`t know of the great Jat match-up between Waseen Akram and Harbhajan Singh in Indo-Pak match but in less than 10 years, you will be covering a Jat Marathon race between Nankana Saheb and Golden Temple on newly built motorway by Daewoo under an agreement between two chiefministers, Samranjit Singh Mann and Aitzaz Ahsan or Shahbaz Sharif.

The event will be marred by accusations of foul play by Rajputs by serving whisky instead of water and loud BhangRa nusic along the path in order to detract Jat participants.

This part lacks comic flavor of part 1. It appears to be written by a different author. Author spent too much time on border. All subsequent report is very sketchy. You might like to use an Indian ghost writer for Amritsar to Calcutta section.