The New Jews

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#83
jayjay
let me repeat what I said earlier, lest you may try putting words in my mouth again. `Their non-violence didn`t help them, till they finally decided to take up militancy`!

no where do you read any blames hurled at the victim here?

frankly speaking you didn`t understand an iota of what I wrote, esp. Iqbal`s line that pointed to Moses`s *active* struggle against tyranny, and a comparion of `laakh hakeems` with `one Kaleem`!

want me to elaborate further, Mr. ex-pakistani?

...so what have we concluded after 104 posts on this thread?...indians proved pakistanis are jackasses...pakistanis proved indians are jackasses...the goras think we`re all jackasses....

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ahmedzai: I do learn a lot from the posts of stuka, veeresh, prem and other Indians with a balanced perspective. My last post was in reference to the closet-modis such as jay, arjun, harimau, etc. It seems that every time Pakistanis are trying to be introspective these guys jump in and deliberately start a fire. From that point onward, the whole thing turns into a contest involving mud slinging and name calling.

I never deny the fact that much is wrong with the Pakistani society and how we deal with our religion. However, there are times when I wish that the above mentioned Indians would give us a little space to get some sense of direction. Its one thing to have a rational debate and quite another to simply insult and stereotype Pakistanis in the most crass manner.

alas we find ourselves in an India Vs. Pakistan debate again!
Pakistanis should accept that their govt. and people(and i refer to the extremists here) are seriously warped. Somethign needs to be done about these people who not only preach hatred against nonmuslims but as said before against anyone thats nonwahabi - shias, ahmadiyas,boris,agakhani`s etc ie their fellow pakistanis. And India has its share of extremists too. We are just a minority in our countries.The illiteracy of the masses has further encouraged the fundoos to brainwash them with their flawed theories of jehad etc.its about time we did something.Noone protests the shia killings or the ostrasizing of the ahmedis.we just sit apathetic and despondent

Sameer, adnan, ahmadzai
Check out Syed Munawar Husain of JeI on PTV:
http://live.pibc.com:7070/ramgen/pv/smil/ptvnews/primetime.smil

He says if you arrest the last 5 ISI chiefs, you will have control over entire Al Qaeda. He says many other things too :).

re: yusafkhan

{Is that because you and others of your ilk (RSS, VHP etc) were instrumental in the rape and murder Indian muslims in Gujarat? }

...maybe he was...but then don`t forget, you and your ilk were instrumental in burning a train load of hindus in gujarat to set it all off...

Re: Sameer, #64

“How often did you hear Bina mentioning Sindhi in any article which is rightfully her proud identity.”

Bina’s proud identity, as it appears from her writings, is Pakistani. She also appears to be a proud Sindhi (which she has mentioned on occasions – that’s how we know about it.) She seems to realize that being a Pakistani and a Sindhi is not mutually exclusive, and also that she is a Pakistani first and a Sindhi second. She does not place undue and excessive emphasis on her ethnicity. She is secure enough to know that identifying herself as a Pakistani does not take away her being a Sindhi. Not only Pakistanis like Bina, but all wise, bright, and sensible people think that way.

..its not just being a Paki..

Its the whole Muslim Ummmah..

I would say....God always...tried to Lure Bani Israel to his folds...and they always lets say showed Nakharas....

and still..

So Muslims were His second choice....Only to Make Jews jeleous and then return back to God..

He still favours them More then any other Nation..or Ummah or whatever..

So rest assured you are a second choice even of God...and then On the Judgement day You will have the right to Question ...His choice if he is Just..

Ref PaagalInsaan #8

[Let us be Humans, let the whole world be our homeland.]

If so, why don`t you move to Rwanda? You want the freedom, money and the comforts that the US and the West offer. You want a Green Card.

You don`t like Rwanda? Try Equatorial Guinea or Liberia.

Want to be among the Ummah? Move to Sudan.

Pakistan & Israel . . . two countries ``created`` with active participation by the Brits in the recent past on the basis of religion, and at the epicentre of all upheavals now. Thus, abhee bhee time hai, bun jao Vedic Islamic Socialist Secular and Liberal Republic Democracy of Pakistan.

We shall support you, don`t worry!!