The New Jews

i think you are assuming the world has gone insane.
why dont you pause and think that paletine, chechnya, xinkiang, phillipnes, kashmir, ayodhya, WTC, kosova, .rushdie/iran ...why everywhere folowing is common---
-One party of dispute is Muslims
-they say they cant live with anybody else
-they resorted to worst kind of terrorism and invented greivances
-milloins of mulims are on streets for subdry reasons like ``support osama`` or against some sundry remark by somebody , but never to denounce acts of terrors by muslims
-muslims want not only but special rights in other countries but sadi arabia confiscates bible/geeta at airport
-from bangladesh to morrocco --all islamic countries are non-democratic and all non-islamic countires are

well bina...what if i say that there is a bit of make-up on ur greif... identity crises is there but its not being american or being an NRP..it still encirclesus in pakistan dont u think that v too inherit a couple of contradictions and that as v grow v keep on adding it...yes right.. u have to listenthe accusitions and justifications from both sides but.....i agree nothin can b done abt it and v have to wait until the dawn of a cultureless world..

yo Jay & company....you said
>>..core belief of islam, jihad, the killing of non-innocents. What all >>these islam white washing authors fail to recognise is that
>>world is against only one aspect of islam, the preaching that individual >>muslims have to search out and kill the non-innocent.
you must have been getting your limited information from Fox News or did you get the Islam for Dummies from your local Borders? Jihad is not the killing of ``non-innocents``....and by the way what is a ``non-innocent``? Oh yeah...every morning I get an email from God with the names of the ``non-innocents`` I have to kill...no let me use the word Liquidate...sounds more cold you know....more Muslim. See you at your next anti muslim reply.

SameerJB....whats the JB for?...BJ sounds better....dude I grew up in Pakistan and knew quite a few Pakistani and non Pakistani Christians and have never heard the name ChohRa given to them. You must have been a sick pup to spend your days hating Christians and calling them ChohRa`s. Lets get the facts straight boy; you probably spent your days looking for sex in Islamabad and when failed you started calling them ChohRa`s. And so what if the shopkeepers charged the foreigners more....big deal havent you heard of the tourist trap?

excellent, bina...very powerful and thought provoking.

Being an ex-Islamabadite, born to a Muslim family, myself I cannot agree with SameerJB more. (Remember the Christian ghettos around drainage nullahs in G-7, F-7 and other sectors, out of the sight of sensitive civil servants, politicians and diplomats).

How can Muslims start comparing themselves with Jews? Despite centuries, two millennia to be exact, of relentless and institutionalized persecution, Jews never resorted to violence in their defense. Importantly, even during the years of persecution, ghettos, hatred, etc, Jews continued to make tremendous contribution to the mankind as academics, physicians, scientists, businessmen and artists. The worldwide racial hatred could not bog their spirits down and they continued to play their part as intellectuals. Their contributions were always proportionally well over and above their minor numbers. The Jews paid attention to education and the learnt to adapt themselves in the host cultures. They always prided themselves as Austrians, Poles or Russian first, Jews later. A Jew of 18th century would have answered, “ I am an Austrian,” when asked, “who are you?”

I do not see any Jewish qualities in the Muslims. To compare violent and fanatic Muslims with the Jews of the past is to degrade humanity.

Bina, learn to say “I am an American” as your “spirit” is American, I believe.

Bina
//...Blame the other, blame your mother, blame anyone but yourselves, and pull your blankets a little tighter over yourselves at night. Then sleep a dreamless sleep, where we are on the other side of the world, kept out by your Maignot Lines, your Hadrian’s Walls, your INS regulations and your racial profiling. ...//

Clearly, you make no attempt to understand the pains of a traumatised population who have endured such horrible terrorist attacks ( and who , by your own admission , have given you part of your identity). You are mocking at them when they cower under their blankets fearing another terrorist attack. These stupid americans - look how they are trembling with fear, cowards all of them, you seem to be saying.

For you - the events surrounding 9/11 is just ``brouhaha``. Americans` fear of Al Qaeda sleeper cells is just hog*wash. Their concern about a ruthless dictator trying to build nuke arsenal is so exaggerated. These stupid americans!!

Why do you expect they understand your pains when you make no attempt to understand theirs?

How dare they keep you outside their ``Maignot Lines`` ? you have a birth-right to this land and yet you have no desire to show some compassion to its inhabitants. Great!!

BinaShah
welcome to the club, we Shiites have always labeled `mini-jews` by our brethren ;-) I guess it`s time the whole community wears that crown of thorns!

On a more serious note, I believe it`s more appropriate to call ourselves the `new commie`, since afterall someone had to fill the void left by the soviets..

Yes, Muslims are new Jew but for different reasons. Both have double standards; both are noisy and pushy
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SammerJB

what about those protestant evangelists, who are drooling incessantly over the idea of Armagaddon? I guess you don`t see any hypocrisy in the followers of `Prince of Peace` who sit on top of the biggest imaginable pile of WMDs and incidentally enjoy some unusual level of influence on a rather gullible president? These people are far more dangerous than those cave dwellers for one simple reason : they have ambitions, and they have the MEANS to carry them out.

And btw.. you don`t speak for the whole nation when drawing upon your own experiences, like calling goras `chooras`. My mother went to an Adventist school and was all praise for Americans, does that give me to speak on behalf of 140 million people? no! So let`s not try to extrapolate our experiences to the whole qom.

//.... Why have you not spoken out against your government? Why do you spread trouble throughout the world? Why have you kept quiet while your people were ruining our lives? ... Does your religion really encourage suicide bombings, violence, destruction of Israel and America? ...//

These are legitimate questions from people who have endured worst terrorist attack ever in history. Be brave and face the questions. In fact these are the questions you should be asking yourself. why are you whinning?

And cut the cr*p, you are NOT ``New Jews``. It`s an insult to jews who endured the worst prosecution in recorded history. Registering with INS is NOT same as being railroaded into a concentration camp. Answering a few questions at the airport immigration counter is not same as facing SS squads.

For god`s sake - white christian grandmothers are being strip-searched at US airports and you are talking about racial profiling? Your penchant for claiming victimhood at the drop of a hat is disgusting.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

New Jews indeed!!

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Excellent article.

I have found a solution to get out of my misery.

I am going to Afghanistan and renewing my passport with Karzai`s pro-American and genuine Taliban basher stamp affixed ;)

On a serious note, what is life without a challenge to overcome it :)

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Pakistani held in Spain

MADRID, March 8: A Pakistani is among the five men arrested in Spain on suspicion of involvement in the suicide attack on a synagogue on the Tunisian resort island of Djerba in which 21 people died , investigators said on Saturday. The other four being held were described as Spanish nationals.


///Bina, I know that you are a modern day rip van winkle, unaware of the history of pakistan, the creation of taliban and the madrassas. Just to make you understand your present predicament, let me post a few actions of your country men so that you have a better understanding of the world after your long restful sleep at the elite pak educational institutions. Hva e a sense of reality, read the posters in the street corners calling kashmir jihad, attend a mosque, wait for next year and attend the e laskers meet at madreke.

Bina

Those are pertinent questions and very well put.

But before now, an average American knew nothing beyond his county. The Europeans, especially the British or the French, understand the rest of the world far better.

It is a fact that an average Muslim is volatile and is not tolerant. That is not to say that Islam is intolerant.

The West has had its religious fights and have packed the religion back into the homes of people since the 8th Century.

But this conflict of religion-state-life continues in the Muslim world. Reintrepretation (Ijtihad) stopped in 8th Century. And it is not possible to follow the scripture in the present times. Thus the anger, frustration and holpelessness of the Muslims. Sufism, my belief , has absolutely no conflict with the present times.

So who am I?

As Wali khan said, a human being (Pathan) since 5000 years. A muslim since 1400 years and a Pakistani since 50 years.

This is a passing phase. The Muslims have to pay this price for their intolerance. The Japs are back normal. The Jews are back normal. So will Muslims as well.

Maybe, this entire chaos turns out better for the Muslims in the long run. They would need to do some soul-searching and find solutions to the conflicts raging inside them.

Muslims are the new jews? Naturally, as you subscribe to a victim culture and always focussed on the suffering only of muslims, this is a expedient way of getting attention to your suffering.

Unfortunately for you, there is much, much more to jews than a culture of victimhood. There is dedication to education and deep commitment to the broader society amongs which jews live. There is a love of music and science. There is the high-level of participation in the democratic process wherever they live. There is the high-level of participation in the educational system -- my guess would be that most faculty in graduate departments in the USA are 20-50% jewish. Not bad for a 3% minority.

Do you seriously think that you and your kind share any of this? I don`t think so. The only part of the jewish image that you have any interest is the ``victim`` part. THis is the part that all mainstream jews reject !!

What can one say at the ironies of such a situation? Ultra-upper class muslims, who have prospered while looking away from the murderous nonsense being propagated in their countries are the new jews? People who take pride in being muslim but refuse to take responsibility for what other muslims do? What a joke....