The New Jews

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HOPE FOR THE NEW JEWS,

US is planning to invade iraq to liberate it from the ruthless dictatot of sadam who treated the kurds as jews.

In the case of pakistan where the people have been treated as jews by the military, there uis no need for an overt invasion. US troops are already in pakistan, the sheikh who moved so easily all through pakistan and in the high circles is nabbed despite the support of the local pak people. The FBI is finally in control. The pak foreign minister said that the shekh will not deported, he changed to he is in the region, and now that region includes quatanamo bay.

At last freedom is in sught, pakistan is under the effective control of the yanks and that is good news for bina the jew. There are times one has to look at the positive side, and for pakistan a nation with out any history with out any culture, this is the only side to look at.

Paigham, Bina,

It talks about the ``persecution of muslims``, moth smoke guy elaborates his belef system, how he is one among the others. What is remarkable is that both the authors makes no mention of the core belief of islam, jihad, the killing of non-innocents. What all these islam white washing authors fail to recognise is that world is against only one aspect of islam, the preaching that individual muslims have to search out and kill the non-innocent.

In every other kind of persecution that you talk about there is some mechanism to control it. Form the 200,000 madrassas of pakistan what comes out is a generalised multipurpose killing machines, and pounce on any one that the mullah points out to be non-innocent. It is this distributed killing system in each muslim household that is the problem, not amenable to any form of control.

Instead of this pathetic laments, stand up and denounce jihad and be with the rest of the wolrd. Take note that the latest al quida man was arrested froma well to do neighbour hood in pak capital and with military connection. So p[lease spare the argument that poverty is at the heart of jihad. It is people like bina and mohsin by trying to put aspin on global fight against jihad are in fact supporting terrorism.

This is the most powerful piece of writing by Bina or possibly any writer

on CHOWK yet

I can appreciate the sentiments expressed here and those

expressed by Mohsin Hamid in Reply # 1 posted by Paigham.


America will come to its senses someday soon. It is still in rage

and is justified in seeking revenge. But it does not know how

to take action and against who for 9/11. In the mean time

many lives will be destroyed through misdirected Muslimphobia.


In the mean time it is also time for Muslims to figure out their own

place in the scheme of worldly events and to reflect internally.

We are always quick to denounce the West but have tolerated the

worst from other co-religionists. Why?


Ras

Bina,

This was excellent; probably the best one of yours I`ve read.

``It was easy to be this and something else, or something-American, or even just foreign student, and if that didn’t suit you, then you could always fall back on your religion, which I did with gusto. It was a relief to say, “I’m Muslim”. . .``

Just a question; if someone were to ask you now, within Pakistan, who you were, would you be able to reply as confidently, and with as much relief, that you are Muslim? Do you think it s possible to divorce the religious from the cultural identity and find it still recovers your sense of self? Being Pakistani may mean a lot of unpleasant things when at the mercy of foreign interpretation but do you find it allows you to be as consciously Muslim as living in America did?

Aamir

Yes, Bina, we`re the new Jews. But how are we going to eveluate and respond to our new found identity...I think that`s the bigger qusetion. This is an exceedingly well written article. I think it expresses the sentiments of many, the silent majority. Thank you for writing this wondderful piece. It flows real well.

Humanity is our mother, and since it gave birth to us, it has lost its ability to reproduce. Its weak, sick, hungry, in rags, looking for `humans` among `nations`.

Let us be Humans, let the whole world be our homeland.

Re: Jay, #s 2, 3

Jay, some of your posts remind of a little kid who cannot have a toffee. You make me laugh!

I just don`t get it! Does your muslimness comes first or Pakistan? Pakistan has tremendously benefited from the events of 9/11 and its ramifications. Imagine, no 9/11, and you could proudly wear Muslim on your sleeve but also rupee declining, economy on the brink of collapse, forex reserves negligible, Taliban next door, Shia massacres every week or twice a week.

All this in exchange for difficulties for few thousand diasporic Pakistanis, and mistrust of Muslims and word Muslim associated with terrorism less and obscurantism more. I have news for you. We hated them same way as they hate us now for a very long time. In the good old days of me a proud Muslim boy growing up in Islamabad, we had two words to describe christians, namely desi chohRa and velayeti chohRa. A velayati chohRa was a foreigner belonging to some European or American embassy in Islamabad.

Only difference is that we did not have CNN and FOX to say those things loudly and to be heard to the rest of the world. The shopkeepers in Islamabad would charge lot more from foreigners than locals. I have witnessed many times the way Pakistani treated white foreigners in various places in Islamabad.

Yes, Muslims are new Jew but for different reasons. Both have double standards; both are noisy and pushy. They would like khilafat, kingdom or dictatorship at home and democracy for minority Muslim population in India and in the west. They will defend 4 wives but will not tolerate affair before or after marriage.

Let us be honest instead of becoming a new Jew.

I don`t know what we are because it keeps getting into Indo-Pak arguments, but all I know is that it is about time we all stopped being fools. It is about time we stopped being colonial remnants fighting for the scraps. It is about time we did what we felt is our truth and the consequences be damned.

As of now, I don`t know if the INS regulations impact 99.99% of the Muslim or other populations of our countries. So, to start with, that`s a disadvantage those of us who get impacted start with.

Taking the larger picture . . .the European Jews, they were impacted as a larger group, in their own territories, if I remember correctly. The Asian Muslims, on the other hand, first made it rough for themselves in their own corners of the world, and then tried to export some of this elsewhere. The obvious solution to this is to try to clean your own backyard first?

Come on, speak up, you go for Hajj to a country which takes an absolutely un-Islamic path as far as treating humanity is concerned, and does any Muslim write about it on return? Let us start there?

None of us will do that. We are scared of our own Maginot Lines, dreamt up in a rush of fear. Or is it that we believe . . .?

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AS ALWAYS BINA DOES IT AGAIN. GREAT ARTICLE :)

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Muslims are the new Jews, where Pakistanis are terrorists, visa cheaters and total bastards, What am I?
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What about the reasons behind this image that muslims have. What about the fact that Pakistan is the training ground for thousands of terrirists. Lashkar-e-Toiba, Hizbul-Mujahideen are pakistani organisations. Hell....LET is headqurtered in Muridke.....even has a yearly meeting as if it is some kind of a corporation. Most notorious islamic terrorists have a connection to Pakistan. Mohammad Atta, Richard Reid were regular visitors to Peshawar.You want the whole world to simply ignore the facts!!!!

As far as being the new jews....I read Pakistani newspapers. I can not beleive the kind of hatred even newspapers like Dawn spew against jews. A couple of days ago a columnist tore into Richard Pybus wondering why the board hired a jew!!!. Look around....almost very muslim country is producing terrorists. Muslims are reaping the results of hatred that is so endemic to their societies. Do not associate this with anti-semitism.

sameerjb #11 you write ``In the good old days of me a proud Muslim boy growing up in Islamabad, we had two words to describe christians, namely desi chohRa and velayeti chohRa. A velayati chohRa was a foreigner belonging to some European or American embassy in Islamabad.
Only difference is that we did not have CNN and FOX to say those things loudly and to be heard to the rest of the world. The shopkeepers in Islamabad would charge lot more from foreigners than locals. I have witnessed many times the way Pakistani treated white foreigners in various places in Islamabad. ``
While there is some truth in what you say, I think you overstate your case. Shopkeepers will charge what they think the market will bear, not out of spite.
Also, you are wrong in making it appear that being a muslim has anything to do with the low-class behavior of namecalling, and that local christians and whites are the only targets of such practices.
Namecalling of other communities reflects low-class upbringing and clinically retarded behavior for a grown up man. On chowk I have in fact seen (and commented on) it practiced by Indian posters for example (the name Pakistan has been twisted to every possible offensive word possible for example - Pukistan, Terroristan, etc.) much less than Pakistanis for some reason. I dont say all Indians are low class - there are many fine people I have met in real life and some on chowk too - but it does seem that India has far more lowclass ones come to chowk. So, you go too far in attributing this behavior to muslims only.

So, please try to maintain your balance when venting your spleen, if that is the phrase. Otherwise you simply fall flat on your face, and people on chowk say ``There goes our good friend sameerJB again, waving his arms in the air and cursing muslims. Boy, we are really, really bad people, otherwise why would Mr. SameerJB always vent his spleen at us no good muslims.`` ;-)