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Tales From Yore

Jagmohan Chadha March 12, 2003

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#19 Posted by HisExcellency on March 14, 2003 7:06:15 am
Quite a moving narrative indeed. Finally the ``paraku`` man`s belief and diligence was rewarded. Extraordinary people are just ordinary people with extraordinary amounts of determination.
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#18 Posted by Ras on March 13, 2003 9:09:48 pm

Go forth and make money.

Ras
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#17 Posted by ssdhillon on March 13, 2003 8:32:47 pm
#14 by tahmed32 on March 13, 2003 5:49pm PT
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And even Indonesia, while it is on the ropes, is a much wealtheir nation than the left armpit of the world (Pakistan) and the right armpit if the world (India) whose representatives on chowk are forever crowing about their
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Nonsense. Indonesia has a per capita income of 570. India 450. Pakistan 440. Considering that they have 1/4 the population of India that is hardly an acheivement. Contrary to what your madrassa taught you India is on the way up. We have a commodity that the world wants. All Indonesia has to offer is Islamist thugs. You have the typical desi disease of considering every culture superior to yours. India and Pakistan have much better educated people than Indonesia. We have pople who can(and are) integrating themselves into the world economy. BTW is Papua New Guinea also better than India and Pak....People there are wealthier than Indians and Pakis.

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#16 Posted by faisaluno on March 13, 2003 8:32:47 pm

tahmed sahib:

there you go again badmouthing anything muslim. mahatir`s claims did have some merit. remember that in early nineties, soros defeated the bank of england over the defense of the value of gbp in erm. western hedge fund applied the same strategy in malaysia. mahatir in response simply questioned the ethics of a strategy that was designed to make money over the backs of poor malaysian citizens. hedge funds managers had a much more destructive effect on the malaysian exchange rate system because of their ability to take large positions in comparison to the size of the economy.

the real economic crisis was no different from the crisis that u.s. is going through right now (remember all the lectures by clinton officials on crony capitalism). malaysian banking system turned out to be much more resilient in comparison to banking systems in neighboring non-muslim countries like korea and thailand. and contrary to your assertions, western banks in malaysia were equally as guilty as their local counterparts if not more in lending money to unprofitable enterprises.

mahatir can justly be accused of making some bad political moves such as the locking up of anwer ibrahim (one of the most dynamic muslim leaders to arise in the last ten years). such minor indiscretions however can be forgiven in the light off everything mahatir has achieved in his rule.

p.s. my first comment was only in jest. although in my opinion, you will make a good editorial page writer for wsj.
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#15 Posted by faisaluno on March 13, 2003 8:32:46 pm


tahmed sahib:

there you go again badmouthing anything muslim. mahatir`s claims did have some merit. remember that in early nineties, soros defeated the bank of england over the defense of the value of gbp in erm. western hedge fund applied the same strategy in malaysia. mahatir in response simply questioned the ethics of a strategy that was designed to make money over the backs of poor malaysian citizens. hedge funds managers had a much more destructive effect on the malaysian exchange rate system because of their ability to take large positions in comparison to the size of the economy.

the real economic crisis was no different from the crisis that u.s. is going through right now (remember all the lectures by clinton officials on crony capitalism). malaysian banking system turned out to be much more resilient in comparison to banking systems in neighboring non-muslim countries like korea and thailand. and contrary to your assertions, western banks in malaysia were equally as guilty as their local counterparts if not more in lending money to unprofitable enterprises.

mahatir can justly be accused of making some bad political moves such as the locking up of anwer ibrahim (one of the most dynamic muslim leaders to arise in the last ten years). such minor indiscretions however can be forgiven in the light of everything mahatir has achieved in his rule.

p.s. my first comment was only in jest. although in my opinion, you will make a good editorial page writer for wsj.
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#14 Posted by tahmed32 on March 13, 2003 5:49:33 pm
bundchungal #13 you write ``Remember George Sorros and his tactics against Indonesia!! I do control a few things and I too can turn the screws if things do not improve. ``
You are kidding, right? I hope you are kidding. Aside from your weird moniker, you seem to be a sensible chap. So please tell me you are not planning to bring down Malaysia`s economy a la Soros.
Actually, seriously (if one can be serious anymore on chowk) it was the Malaysian president whatisname who accused Soros of the East Asian crisis. The fact is that it was a combination of non-performing assets (translation: overinvestment in office high rise buildings and other lousy investments), a weak financial system (lack of equity markets, with commercial banks being the financiers for these lousy investments, and lack of regulation of these banks) that caused the collapse. And incidentally, while Indonesia has been slow in recovering, others have already bounced back. And even Indonesia, while it is on the ropes, is a much wealtheir nation than the left armpit of the world (Pakistan) and the right armpit if the world (India) whose representatives on chowk are forever crowing about their per capita GNPs and the golden age of the IT programmer.
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#13 Posted by bundchungal on March 13, 2003 2:19:54 pm
Re: #6 by ali_1
No but I do employ a big chunk of those chaps who were rounded up. That was indeed very unfortunate and it is shameful that Malaysian authorities acted that way.
To be motivated to act against our Indian (or for that matter any other) workers will hurt them in the long run. I am not a vindictive person by nature but if I get the opportunity, which I likely will, I will certainly screw those responsible for this bigoted behavior. Remember George Sorros and his tactics against Indonesia!! I do control a few things and I too can turn the screws if things do not improve.
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#12 Posted by stuka on March 13, 2003 8:20:14 am
A really nice story. Please publish more if possible. Did your family settle down in Delhi after partition?
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#11 Posted by stuka on March 13, 2003 8:20:14 am
A really nice story. Please publish more if possible. Did your family settle down in Delhi after partition?
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#10 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on March 12, 2003 11:46:58 pm

Jagmohan

I liked your story. Very good narrative. Simple and human. Paople living their lives and making a success.

It is a refreshing change from the Hindue-Muslim, ISI, Kashmir, Iraq etc.

My best wishes to you.
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#9 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on March 12, 2003 11:46:58 pm

Jagmohan

I liked your story. Very good narrative. Simple and human. Paople living their lives and making a success.

It is a refreshing change from the Hindue-Muslim, ISI, Kashmir, Iraq etc.

My best wishes to you.
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#8 Posted by veeresh on March 12, 2003 8:39:04 pm

Hi everybody . . . in case it didnt work for those looking at urstruly $ 4, this is what it looks like . . . moazziz qaaraeen!

idaara-e-Jang ne kuchh arsa pehle roman urdu meN taaza tareen khabroN aur cricket matchoN par online chaupaal ka silsila shuroo` kiya tha jise qaaraeen ne be had saraaha tha. isee ke pesh-e-nazar ab aham khabroN par mushtmil 3 section ``aham khabreN`` , ``qaumee khabreN`` aur ``bainulaqwaamee khabreN`` shuroo kiyay jaa rahey haiN. is tarah agar agar yeh kaha jaae keh roz naamah Jang ka roman edition Roman Urdu meN pehla akhbaar hai to ghalat na ho ga.

qaaraeen se guzaarish hai keh woh roman urdu qaai`de ka mutaal`ah zaroor kareN, is se unheN roman urdu paRhne aur samajhne meN aasaanee rahe gee. kiyooNkeh urdu ko romanize karte huey maihaz angrezee huroof-e-tahajee ka sahaara nahiN liya gaya balkeh jahaaN tak mumkin hua us ke baa-qaai`da usool-o-zawaabit bhee banaae gae haiN taakeh urdu ka husn aur shustagee barqaraar rahe. is ke `ilaawa roman urdu qaai`de ke mutaal`e se aap hamaare kaee silsiloN maslan chaupaal ya cricket matchoN par online tabsroN meN behtar taur par shirkat kar sakeN ge. qaaraeen se guzaarish hai keh woh is baare meN apnee aara aur tajaaveez darjzail email address par bhejeN taakeh roman akhbaar ko mazeed behtar banaaya ja sakey. aap kee ara aur tajaaveez ko is edition meN jagah dee jaae gee aur is keliyay `` aap kee ara aur tajaaveez `` ke naam se alag section shuroo` kiya ja raha hai. . .


http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/indexroman.html

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Tipu #7 . . . with respects, why should you wonder about the ``most friendly and least illwishing`` behaviour of Hindu families who lost the most in West Pakistan during Partition? See, once you lose something like an asset or land or money or even life of a near/dear, the effect for the next few generations is to put a value on realities, which is simple:- the only thing you & I ``own`` is what is in the space between our ears, in our brains.

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#7 Posted by Tipu on March 12, 2003 5:05:50 pm
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#6 Posted by ali_1 on March 12, 2003 4:44:27 pm
Re: bundchungal #5

``I am in the IT industry...... I am making loads of real $$$$$ from all parties.``

Good for you, Bund. Were you one of the 270 java monkies who were beaten black and blue by Malayasian immigration???
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#5 Posted by bundchungal on March 12, 2003 12:13:46 pm
The real success story is my business. I am in the IT industry and after nearly a 7 year slough I am finally raking in the dough. The only thing now that I have to endure is the travelling but I will now delegate to my juniors. You do not know me publically because of my low profile but I sell/make the stuff that is making all the internet commerce really feasible. man this is the best time to live in. I am making loads of real $$$$$ from all parties. Race/religion no bar.
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#4 Posted by veeresh on March 12, 2003 11:25:55 am
Thank you, and we hope to see more from you at chowk. These are the simple facts of life which give so many of us hope.

Welcome, gentle reader and now writer.

Out of curiousity, what is your publishing house`s name, please, if you don`t mind us asking you?
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