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French Fries vs Freedom Fries

gullu gullu March 18, 2003

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#41 Posted by tahmed32 on March 20, 2003 10:10:34 am
stuka #37 you write ``I am impressed.`` (on the start of war prediction).
Thanks. I also do tarot cards, palmistry, horoscopes and crystal ball gazing. :-)

You continue: ``Now hopefully your prediction will come true about the end of the war as well. ``
Lets hope so. For the sake of ordinary Iraqis and uniformed people in harm`s way from all sides.
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#40 Posted by tahmed32 on March 20, 2003 10:10:34 am
anNy #34 Good to see you back. Even though I suppose it is for a short while. And even if you did take a small swing at fact maroring mainstream america, who in fact are the nicest people on earth. Along with mainstream folks from Karachi, I may add. And I should also mention the nice folks of Islamabad (except for the bearded goats in the national assembly and our self-appointed president), Lahore, Delhi (except for that cab driver who drove me to the tourist rip off shop when I wanted to see lal kilah, and of course except for the BJP pols), Bombay, Dacca, Mexico City, Nairobi.
Anyway, good to see your post.
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#39 Posted by sadna on March 20, 2003 10:10:34 am
anNy #34
You might like to read these contrasting points of view:

http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=303470
Great Trouble for America


http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=303591
WHY THE LEFT love OSAMA

By DANIEL PIPES
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#38 Posted by swamibob on March 20, 2003 8:07:00 am
what disturbs me the most is that the US population is driven by the new propaganda of fear. Hopefully, before the next election cycle enough people will snap out of their collective knee jerk support for our Dear Leader and use the corrective measures of democracy. Still doesn`t solve the problem of getting through the next 2 years but its the only solution.
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besides, America can rewrite/delete history since history is always written by the victors, never the vanquished. IF the victor eventually becomes the vanquished then a new version of history will be written. History is never objective.
I am john doe
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#37 Posted by veeresh on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
Tommorow when history will be written praising the great fortitude and foresight of whoever ``wins``, remember that you were witness to the fact that everybody lost!!
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#36 Posted by veeresh on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
Hi, would you like to share with us why your handle is ``gullu gullu`` please and thank you.
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#35 Posted by anNy on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
gullahbaba
the freedom-french fry issue is more amusing than anything else
whats blowing my khopri is the rhetoric, fact maroring, emotional bullshit and downright bakwaas thats coming from institutions, representatives of those institutions and collectively, mainstream america... after being told all along that they be the civilized, its disturbing to see them behaving like a jamat-e-islami jalooos gone wild.. lets hope this madness ends quick and as few as can be people are hurt on both sides
big fat hug :0)
anNy
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#34 Posted by tahmed32 on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
shah #28 shah my friend! how many times have i begged and pleaded with people on chowk not to go by what someone else says, but rather to go by what their own God-given minds tell them?? Why do you then torment me by coming back and saying ``but look, the stated aim of the war in iraq is to get terrorists``??
But you are a good chap and I am a patient man. So let me say that by all logic Mr. and Mrs. Joe Schmoe Iraqi and their six wonderful children will miss Saddam Hussein no more than the Afghans miss being ruled by mullah omar or the bengalis miss being pushed around by general tikka khan.
So: puhleeze!! trust your mind. Words are cheap (why do you think I am on chowk??)
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#33 Posted by bharatvaasi on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
What irony!

The people the ummah consider to be kafirs, not worthy of being given equal rights are the ones who are protesting this war. But the chosen ones, like the Arabs and the rest of the ummah are silent not a peep out of these guys.

Like Jay says, and other have said the same thing, ummah can be bought with a few dollars. That is what they are interested in. They are incapable of thinking and developing themselves. Those few individulas who can, like Salaam, are declared apostates and thrown out.

Sad, really sad. Pathetic I say. That it is the Kafirs who will have to rescue the ummah for it is they who are protesting against this war and have stuck their necks out - French, Germans, Russians.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
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#32 Posted by stuka on March 20, 2003 7:00:32 am
TAHmed:

Sajni #36 Its a deal. We shall put this discussion on hold until the war takes place, and THEN see if it indeed was over in two weeks and placed Iraq on the road to democracy.

There is a tiny possibility that there will be no war, and Saddam will chose the option presented to him by Bush in his speech to quit his job and go to some other country. But I fear that will probably not happen, and it looks like war will start around March 20th (a couple of days after the ultimatum given by Bush has expired). Which means, you and I shall talk again around April 10 or so. And we can do that on the topmost article on chowk at the time. And Urstruly can be the referee. ``


Damn!!! Right on the money. Wow!! Too bad you don`t work for our company otherwise you would have won four rounds of drinks from the office pool. I am impressed. Now hopefully your prediction will come true about the end of the war as well.
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#31 Posted by arjun_m on March 20, 2003 7:00:31 am
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#30 Posted by rozaiba on March 19, 2003 8:00:50 pm
arjun_m:

one reason saddam went to war with iran was cause he was afraid otherwise, the iranian revolutionaries may stir up trouble and incite shiite iraqis to bring regime change in iraq as well.
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#29 Posted by shah. on March 19, 2003 8:00:50 pm
re tahmed32 #24
The official reasons for war are given here
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html

It is not, as you claim, to make life better for average Iraqis. It is to ``to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001. `` Lying till the very end...

By the way you can rest assured that you will see happy Iraqis at the end of it all. Tucker Eskew, a protege of Lee Atwater , has been given the task of producing images of happy Iraqis. By golly, he will produce those images.
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#28 Posted by faisaluno on March 19, 2003 8:00:50 pm

initial reports indicated that there would be around 100,000 troops defending baghdad. assumption was that at least 10% would have to be neutralized before u.s. army would start the march into baghdad. news report now indicate that the number of troops around baghdad is much lower. assessment now is that march into baghdad is going to be a cakewalk.

scene has been repeated many times over the last three hundred years and as long as muslim rulers continue to treat their own people with contempt, the scene will be replayed well into the future.
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#27 Posted by stuka on March 19, 2003 8:00:50 pm
Urstruly


Even with your perverted view of history, why are you putting the onus on me? Don`t you repeatedly condone and even encourage violence against Indians?

Oh sorry!! I forgot!! Hindus, Jews etc do not count as human beings to you.
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#26 Posted by harimau on March 19, 2003 5:29:16 pm
Ref arjun_m #23

[You dont know sh!t from shinola... ]

Perhaps you meant to say, ``You don`t know Shiite from shinola`` ;)
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