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Who Will be World Champion of Cricket ?

Jarrar Jaffari March 21, 2003

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#1 Posted by ashwindatye on March 22, 2003 6:38:40 am
I liked your article. It seems you observe a lot. But Indians prevailing over the aussies... naah.. :-)
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#2 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on March 22, 2003 6:38:40 am

I want India to win. The Cup should come to South Asia.

In the present form, the Indian batting is the best in the world & Tandolkar, the best batsman.
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#3 Posted by rsaxena on March 22, 2003 7:49:16 am
...india is going to get a royal beating from mighty aussies...i don`t think it matters who plays the aussies...they will get a royal beating...


india batting first:

bowled out for 150 or so

australia batting first:

look for 350 or so
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#4 Posted by Munjan on March 22, 2003 8:47:44 am
#2,

Thanx for liking the article.

I am sure (as I said) that India is the only team in the world that has the potential and will to defeat Aussies. Cricket is much more than simply playing a stroke and bowling a ball. Team role and cohesivness plays a big role in the victories.

Indian team is playing as if it is a one man (the whole is knitted into one unit). There isa lot of planning that goes into game planning and they must be planning this for quite a while. I have followed Tendulkar`s career with almost as much of an enthusism as an Indian would and I know he has never done the same mistake twice. Aussies wont be getting him out the way they got him in the league game.

If Indian can`t win it now then there is no stopping to the Aussies for many many years to come. I think Indian cricket has been heading in the right direction and it is paying off now.

Cheers,
Jarrar
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#5 Posted by hamidm2 on March 22, 2003 9:33:10 am
..... i don`t know much about cricket and care even less, but i don`t want the indians to win .......... i can`t stand the thought of them winning anything ........heck, if i thought an indian was going to pick up my garbage from the curb, i`d bring it back in and put it in the middle of my drawing room......... i know this sounds insane, but it must be in the genes ......... the other day my kids, born and raised in the usa, went on the war path when i suggested buying a honda ...........``it is an indian car - specially those beige ones,`` they yelled and screamed ......... `` what`s next - are you going to make us eat veggie burgers and wear dots on our foreheads!`` ............ i wanted to point out that some of their best friends were indians, but then decided to give up before i was declared a senile hindoo-lover ...........
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#6 Posted by veeresh on March 22, 2003 12:41:46 pm
OK fine we will try to win this cricket shricket cup shup, you please now play and try to win hockey vockey.
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#7 Posted by HisExcellency on March 22, 2003 12:41:47 pm
Throughout the 80s and 90s, India had world class batsmen who pummeled Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, England and New Zealand but collapsed against Pakistan, Australia, South Africa and West Indies. Against the ``Big Four``, India whimpered because of a lack of mental toughness and raw aggression.

I feel that the current Indian team has worked very hard over the last 2 years.. they exude more confidence and aggression.

However, to win against Australia, you need more than talent and aggression. Pakistan and South Africa have learnt this lesson the hard way.

The Aussies are the most attacking cricketers in the world today. They are the only team in the world that could lose 5 wickets for 80 runs and still go on to score 310. To win against the Aussies, you need talent + aggression + intelligent strategy. India will need to strategize on an over-by-over basis to win against Australia.
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#8 Posted by Ahmadzai on March 22, 2003 12:41:47 pm
Jarrar:

Laws of averages go against Aussies. Last world cups trend analysis go in favor of India too (Pakistan had defeated Australia in group match, but had lost the final in 1999, similarly, Australia vs. Sri Lanka in 1996 and Pakistan vs. England in 1992).

Even then I would be willing to put my weight behing Australia. Its a game between professionalism and talent.
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#9 Posted by JarrarJaffari on March 22, 2003 12:41:47 pm
Reply #5:

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..... i don`t know much about cricket and care even less,
}

Its quite obvious that you dont know anything about Cricket, and it also seems that you happen to not like Hindus, I have no idea why but I hope you might have some solid reasons.

I just wanted to make a point that the forum is not to vent such hidden anger, I am sure there are other chat rooms where you will be welcome.

Please pitch in your thoughts about the final so we can have a conversation about what the article is about.

Thanx for your understanding.

Jarrar
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#10 Posted by Ansari on March 22, 2003 2:57:25 pm
Jarrar; lagta hai aap hamare madani sahab ko jaante nahin hain. . .unko logon ko aazmane ka shauq hai. . .beshak thore difficult hain lekin ab tak naik niyat ka muzaahira kiya hai. . .aage bhi yehi umeed rahegi. . .

Aamir
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#11 Posted by Ras on March 22, 2003 5:59:56 pm

Best of luck to India tonight.

I wonder how they feel with Pakistani fans in their corner.....

India is going to need the luck and a lot more.

Ras
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#12 Posted by JarrarJaffari on March 22, 2003 5:59:56 pm
I wanted to include following statistics in the article, and have no idea how I missed:


Feb 15 2003, Centurion: Australia won by 9 wickets

April 6 2001, Goa: Australia won by 4 wickets

April 3 2001, Visakhapatnam: Australia won by 93 runs

Mar 31 2001, Indore: India won by 118 runs

Mar 28 2001, Pune: Australia won by 8 wickets

Mar 25 2001, Bangalore: India won by 60 runs

Oct 7 2000, Nairobi: India won 20 runs

Jan 30 2000, Perth: Australia won by 4 wickets

Jan 26 2000, Adelaide: Australia won by 152 runs

Jan 14 2000, Sydney: Australia won by 5 wickets

Total matches played: 67

Australia wins: 40 India wins: 24 Tied/NR: 3

As they say that ``Statistics are like lamp pole, a drunkard can use to hold on to and it can also be used to light`` so use it the way you want to use.

Jarrar
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#13 Posted by JarrarJaffari on March 22, 2003 5:59:56 pm
Kapil Dev`s statement:

JOHANNESBURG: India are better cricketers than Australia, former India captain and coach Kapil Dev said on the eve of the World Cup final.

``I think the Indian players are more talented than Australia. Australia are superior only in fitness and physique,`` Kapil said on Saturday.

The former all rounder, who led India to victory in the 1983 World Cup, added of India: ``They are playing like champions.``

India have won their last eight matches since being thrashed by nine wickets by the unbeaten Australians in the first round. Australia have not lost for a world-record 16 one-day matches.

Kapil is in South Africa as a television commentator but said he would not be at The Wanderers for the final.

He hoped attacking opening batsman Virender Sehwag and Saurav Ganguly would find their best form in the final.

Sehwag has hit one fifty from 10 innings. Ganguly has made three unbeaten hundreds but they have come against non-test sides Namibia and Kenya (2). His record against test sides in this tournament is just over 17.

``Sehwag is a very good player, but in this World Cup he has not shown anything which people in this country or elsewhere can enjoy,`` Kapil added.

``Saurav is a superb player... But he has not got many runs against genuine quick bowlers.

``He has scored runs against teams such as Australia, South Africa but over the period the impression he has given is he struggles against pace.``

Ganguly is likely to be targeted by Australia fast bowler Brett Lee, consistently the quickest bowler in the world and second in the list of World Cup wicket-takers with 20.


I don`t think that Indians are more talented lot than Aussies but they sure are at equal footing with them. And Physical fitness is an integral part of your talent its no good to have a raw talent but you can`t step in the ground.

Jarrar
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#14 Posted by JarrarJaffari on March 22, 2003 5:59:56 pm
#8 AhmedZai
{
Even then I would be willing to put my weight behing Australia. Its a game between professionalism and talent.
}

Indian team is very professional too. In my opinion the ``will`` to win the game is stronger in Indian team than Aussies and you never know.
I know beating Aussies wont be an easy thing but then if you want to be crowned as World champions you gotta just do this, right ?

My worries are:

  1. Rahul Dravid`s injury.
    Dravid injured his finger during semi final and gave a rediculus amount of byes 16 runs. Such a display will be tough to defend against Aussies.
    Its not the time to try Parthik Patel (the teen age wicket keeping sensation of India!). I hope Draid does the good job.
  2. Zaheer Khan`s maturity in bowling.
    It is time for Zaheer Khan to show some nerves and bowl with discipline.

#10 Ansari.

{
Jarrar; lagta hai aap hamare madani sahab ko jaante nahin hain. . .unko logon ko aazmane ka shauq hai. . .beshak thore difficult hain lekin ab tak naik niyat ka muzaahira kiya hai. . .aage bhi yehi umeed rahegi. . .
}

Its never easy to read URDU in Roman. And no I dont know ``Madni Sahib`` and you wrote that ``unko logon ko aazmane ka shauq hai`` so what they say in urdu:
``Too Teer Azma, Hum Jigar Azmien``
no I dont mind as long as criticism is limited to Cricket, for politics and relegion there are other forua too.

Cheers,
Jarrar
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#15 Posted by rsridhar on March 22, 2003 6:08:42 pm
re:#9 by HisExcellency
Pakistan was never in the same league as West Indies or Australia during the 80s and 90s. I used to watch the game regularly then. Imran Khan was responsible for giving a new impetus to a team that was rich in talent but poor as a cohesive force.
India, btw, never had world class players in 80s and 90s except Gavaskar (in 80s) and Kapil Dev. The spin trio was on the wane in 80s. I cannot even recall names of even one player who i can say was world class except the above 2.
India, if i were to belive media reports, has today leapfrogged into a new age where technology and training go together. I read about a new software Indian cricket team uses that makes it possible for players to review their performance on any given day and correct their defects. They also study the defects of the opposing team very minutely. Their training is vastly superior now.
I saw the tape of India-Pak match and was impressed by the team effort even though Tendulkar`s knock stood out. I think this team has the potential to beat Australia.
Sridhar
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#16 Posted by JarrarJaffari on March 22, 2003 6:53:26 pm
Hi,
There has been another very important factor in the victories of the Indian team, the team camaraderie the fact that individual intersts must be suordinated by the team`s goals.

I am great fan of the Yankees organization and been reading a bunch about them and came across an interview of their General Manger Joe Torre. He said:

``I have always judged peopel on effort as oppose to the bottom line ...... All players should be told that they don`t have to be on the winning side to be a winner.``

who would say Kenyans are not winner even though they lost to Aussies and India, its all how you fought. DOes any one remember Aussies Vs S. Africa semi final of 1999?

Here is my advice to Indian team; if you you want to have the title of the world champions and be in the rare league of Windies and Aussies (those who won this vaunted title twice!!) then it boils down to simple five words:
DO THE BEST YOU CAN and belive me you will be world champs.

Jarrar
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