Babar Hashmi May 24, 2003
#1 Posted by bbabu on May 24, 2003 9:19:21 pm
I am generally opposed to boycotts in sporting and cultural fields. I will conceed that the anti-apartheid sporting boycott was devastating to the morale of the South African Whites. Apartheid was an extreme case.
#2 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on May 25, 2003 12:44:26 am
Babar
You are absolutely right.
Let us, the people, not lower ourselves to the level of the politicians, foreign office officials, intelligence agencies and religious extremists.
Art & Music are the common heritage of the mankind.
#3 Posted by veeresh on May 25, 2003 12:44:27 am
Inspired Inzamam? When was he last inspired?
That apart, the people of the countries manage, merit will surface so if our/your singers are good, then their CDs/cassettes will sell.
That apart, the people of the countries manage, merit will surface so if our/your singers are good, then their CDs/cassettes will sell.
#4 Posted by veeresh on May 25, 2003 6:49:19 am
Nazarhayathkhan # 2 says . . . ``Art & Music are the common heritage of the mankind.``
Yeah, right. The sanity of men won`t work, the vanity of women shall.
#5 Posted by sadna on May 25, 2003 9:58:19 am
Its not only Indian artistes who are banned in Pakistan, Indian music, Indian films, Indian TV channels, Indian books, Indian goods are banned too. Does the author mention these? No. Why?
#6 Posted by arjun_m on May 25, 2003 3:18:41 pm
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#7 Posted by rsridhar on May 25, 2003 3:24:10 pm
re: why Pak bans artists from India?
I would also like to ask the same questions that Sadna has asked in her post. Why are Indian artists not allowed free access to Pakitan the way Pakistani artists enjoy access to India?
I remember, when i was a kid in Delhi, my dad got hold of some tickets for the Ghazal concert by the maestro Mehndi Hassan. We all enjoyed it very much. I have seen other Qawwals from Pak come and perform at regular intervals. Some of them have a huge following. I also remember the time when Noor Jehan came to India. She was well received.
Now, Pak has never invited the 2 singers who have been extremely popular: Md Rafi and Lata Mangeshwar. Of the 2, one is no more. The other has hit a nadir after singing for decades. Pak`s elite just cannot countenance a famous Indian coming to Pak and perform. Some fear that their music industry will be affected (as if it is doing anything great right now). Others just hate Indians, period. Pak govt did not have problems when Ms Arundhati Roy came to Pak as she was considered a critic of Indian govt. In the field of arts and music, India has a lot more to show than Pak and Pak elite cannot stomach that.
Perhaps one day the realisation will come that Pak music industry needs to work in tandem with India. This will allow it to learn and grow out of its self-imposed isolation.
Sridhar
I would also like to ask the same questions that Sadna has asked in her post. Why are Indian artists not allowed free access to Pakitan the way Pakistani artists enjoy access to India?
I remember, when i was a kid in Delhi, my dad got hold of some tickets for the Ghazal concert by the maestro Mehndi Hassan. We all enjoyed it very much. I have seen other Qawwals from Pak come and perform at regular intervals. Some of them have a huge following. I also remember the time when Noor Jehan came to India. She was well received.
Now, Pak has never invited the 2 singers who have been extremely popular: Md Rafi and Lata Mangeshwar. Of the 2, one is no more. The other has hit a nadir after singing for decades. Pak`s elite just cannot countenance a famous Indian coming to Pak and perform. Some fear that their music industry will be affected (as if it is doing anything great right now). Others just hate Indians, period. Pak govt did not have problems when Ms Arundhati Roy came to Pak as she was considered a critic of Indian govt. In the field of arts and music, India has a lot more to show than Pak and Pak elite cannot stomach that.
Perhaps one day the realisation will come that Pak music industry needs to work in tandem with India. This will allow it to learn and grow out of its self-imposed isolation.
Sridhar
#8 Posted by Tipu on May 25, 2003 3:24:10 pm
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#10 Posted by Tipu on May 25, 2003 3:26:49 pm
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#11 Posted by rsridhar on May 25, 2003 6:10:24 pm
re:#10 by Tipu
What the heck is Pak govt protecting? Mediocrity?
Sridhar
What the heck is Pak govt protecting? Mediocrity?
Sridhar
#12 Posted by Buddy on May 25, 2003 11:41:34 pm
Today on NPR, I heard an interview of a Pakistani who was deported from the US because of immigration violations. The interview followed him to his parent`s home in Lahore. What caught my attention was the music that was being played at home. It was Indian hindi filmi music!
#13 Posted by septran on May 25, 2003 11:41:35 pm
post#5
it is indian who banned cricket .we read indian books,see indian movies
i found many things indian made in market such as sari,chadder,cosmatic and many other things.so i don``t agree with you.
it is indian who banned cricket .we read indian books,see indian movies
i found many things indian made in market such as sari,chadder,cosmatic and many other things.so i don``t agree with you.
#14 Posted by arjun_m on May 25, 2003 11:41:35 pm
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#15 Posted by tenaliramanna on May 25, 2003 11:41:35 pm
Have you noticed this flawed logic in all Ind - Pak or Hind-Muslim arguments ???
First few punches are thrown by Pak.........but Ind is not supposed to react in the same manner. If it does(say throw one punch to the opponents 10), then some so called intellectual Pakis will point out to another Indian (Gandhi) and suggest we follow that path.(Ofcourse they will soon be joined by eunuch brigade from this side of the border who value a Paki dog`s - literally - life more than that of an Indian soldier`s).
End result ? Dispute/Fight continues.......India loses more men, takes more punches and Pakistan walks away to fight another day. This sickening story repeats.......somebody`s gotta learn and soon.
First few punches are thrown by Pak.........but Ind is not supposed to react in the same manner. If it does(say throw one punch to the opponents 10), then some so called intellectual Pakis will point out to another Indian (Gandhi) and suggest we follow that path.(Ofcourse they will soon be joined by eunuch brigade from this side of the border who value a Paki dog`s - literally - life more than that of an Indian soldier`s).
End result ? Dispute/Fight continues.......India loses more men, takes more punches and Pakistan walks away to fight another day. This sickening story repeats.......somebody`s gotta learn and soon.
#16 Posted by bbabu on May 26, 2003 7:51:36 am
tenaliramanna #13
I have no problems with cultural figures. Of course you are free to boycott cultural and sports figures associated with the Pakistani religious fringe.
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