Miscued Doldrums; The Saga Revisited, The Feud Recreated

pappu67:
The pirating media product business is not a sign of anti-India. Pakistanis do not like to pay income tax and sales tax also to their own government.

Most of the desis (Indians including) in diaspora do not honestly pay to the producers and artists for the products sold and rented in USA, Canada and Britain. Within Pakistan Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan got nothing from Sonic, Eagle and other labels for volumes running almost 100 of his songs.

Why can`t Pakistan allow British and Canadian artists of Indian origin even if they have probelm with India?

#27 by dost-mittar on May 27, 2003 6:52am PT
Romair:
``One of the best articles I have read in a long time. Really puts things in perspective``
Is the dye-in-the-wool militarist now embracing a marxist-communist worldview?
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Mayeb he is scared that once the feuding pakis and indians become pals..he would be left alone...so better change..or pretend to chagne slowly

What a stupid article! Indian artists are banned from Pakistan for decades. Rather than giving his sermons to Pakistanis, author is reminding us of what Gandhi said!! Gandhi also said ``no partition`` and you never listened to him. Why are Pakistani so selective when they want us to follow Gandhi?
(BTW, This author looks like another incarnation of YLH)

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there are numerous faults at both ends. india wont play cricket with pakistan (until such a time that they are sure of winning) and pakistan wud not allow indian movies to come to pakistan (until such a time that we start making better films). but atleast the artists (forward looking, peaceloving, enlightened) shudnt be saying such things. there are two things. 1, all indian artists are not such. nusrat fateh ali , junoon, nazia hassan are just some examples of times when pakistanis were welcomed with open arms in india. 2. indian artists like sukhbir, stereo nation, etc. who r uk based have been allowed in pakistan. even the bhangra king daler mehndi has visited from time to time. so all is not lost. pakistani singers, watever the restrictions, applaud and respect the genius of lata, rafi, kishore and the likes. the point the article tries to make is that if even the artists start to talk like politicians, all hope will be lost.

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SammerJB: Your posts are logical, but you are different from the Ppaki mind set which is exemplified by the posts of 12 Head. Typically, there seems to be a sense of inferiority amongst Pakistanis. This translates in to a sense of righteousness in demanding special status, while justifying lack of reciprocity.

Also, economics is just one minor reason. The real reason Indian artists are banned is because the Paki establishment is too fearful of what beysharam beyhaya Indians will do the the Pakistan Ideology. If a Lahori singer can be taken to court for singing Kudiyan Lahore Deeyan, imagine the fear and nervousness Indian singers inspire in the bureaucrats and Guardians of Pakistan Ideology?

Check this out...

``Some PROTECTION is needed from Haegonomy not necessarily boy cott but like Affirmative action,Subsidy to farmers ,Bilateral trade ..


In the whole picture the lesser the weaker( not inherently but neumericaly ) stand chance to be overwhelmed over run & open worl economy only favours multi natinal bIG large MORE capital ..as you know ``

Typical example of how Hindus should perpetually bend over and take it up the arse to help the ``weaker section of society``..

We are not falling for that shit any more. Pakistan and India are two soveriegn nations. We don`t owe them anything. Trade, cultural exchanges should take place on a basis of equality or not at all.

Sstudebaker: You are a liar. Sardar Patel encouraged others only when the choice became Pakistan or Civil War. From Syed Ali Khan IT IS YOUR MUSLIM leaders who always thought of themselves as MUSLIMS first and Indian second.

The Muslim League was founded by Muslim feudals much before Sardar Patel came on the scene. The vast majority of Muslims supported Pakistan till August 14, 1947. Iit is only on the 15th of August that Muslim League flags came down and Congress flags went up and a number of Muslims discovered secularism and one man one vote.

The biggest mistake the Congress government made, and the most unfair thing to Nationalist Muslims, was that it did not forcibly deport any and all members of the Muslim League to Pakistan. This left suspicion on those Muslims who were generally nationalist.

What did Sardar Patel have to do with the demand of seperate electorates?

What did Sardar Patel have to do with the demand for communal quotas?

The Cabinet Mission plan would have been disaster for Iindia. Even now I say it was better to accept partition than to perpetuate existence under the blackmail of the Muslim League.

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Studebaker:

``In the end of it al ,i think 1/2 of Partitions already un done .....


Lets see how bjp cancome to bengal ..... ``

Explain the above two statements.

stuka ji
I can explain a part of 12-head`s statement. No party other than the communists can possibly win in West Bengal because all the elections in Bengal are heavily rigged by the commies. Stalin had instructed the Indian leftists to subvert the democratic system from within rather than trying for a revolution. I guess that`s what they are doing.
regards

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I have a question, if anyone can help me, I`d be most appreciative. I`m writing a satire and needed to know the name of an Indian musician/singer who used to be prominent on MTV India some years back... I believe she may have hosted some programs, too...

I thought her name was Rageshwari. But I have now heard that there was also a Rajeshwari. And even a Rajeswari.

This is all monumentally confusing. If anyone can clear this up: The musician I had in mind was pretty young (well, five years ago) and seemed to be prominent on the channel, so I`m thinking she must be in the pop music scene.

Thanks.