Blessing in Disguise

Abrara,

I have to agree that mushy is good for pakistan, at last there is some one ready to catch the proverbial islamic bull by the horn.
Before the recent elections, the standard line by the romairs, tahmeds and for that matter all of pakistan was that there are only 3 percent extremists, they managed to get only 3 seats etc. Now every one says that at the next election, it will jihadists all the way.
At least in one part of pakistan, music is banned, women are really treated per the book, the dream of jinnah is taking shape, albiet in in small plave, though remote.

When mushy went to russia he wanted latest, anti-missile system while he ordered for second hand textile machinery.

At last there is a mushy in pakistan who is ready to spread islam under mushroom clouds. At last he is giving a lead role fpr pakistan in islamic religious sytem, the only place to reah for the heavens. I am happy that at last mushy has taken pakistn to its rightful place, integration of military jihadic political convergence.
Abrar, it is great that you are bold enough to say that.

Bravo!!! yes, Army should be kept away with politics ...but why whom?
civilians ...who doesn`t have any guts to say ``you are wrong or you are right`` ---they don`t have conscience left. Its a game of survival in Pakistan who survives is `lucky`. Politicans tends to force Army at times for there selfish reasons. I know post-Oct 2002 is a new Pakistan now where lot of people realized Army is not that good after all , I know Chaudary Sahib`s vision `he wants Sharif and Bibi back` he knows Army tends to double cross and he would rather be with his political comrdes
Pakistan is a special hypocrite society....where some 200 family`s rule they are in Politics, Army, Establishment or ofourse the Feudrals.
`the ocean is full of sharks and you are just a fry`

good article.at present,musharaf is the best man to handle the sitution.
pakistan needs control democracy.abrar has positive thinking.

Abrar!

A good article.. but let me point out where ``A leader with guts, gal and moral uprightness`` is emerging from. Any guess !!! Its none other than the so-called religious extremists of MMA.

Its going to be very hard to swallow for the pseudo-liberals around here specially SameerBB and hamedm. But if you look at what has happened after the elections last october, MMA is the only party who is spearheading the fight for saving democratic traditions from meddling of the khaikis (Hubub over LFO in both the lower and upper house is an example). They are the ones reminding us of our lost national dignity and beating drums of ending corruption and bringing prosperity and justice to the common man.

Interested in a more elaborate picture of how this is coming about.. follow the link below, an article in washingtonpost.

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Secular Pakistanis, Upset by War, Turn To Religious Parties
By John Lancaster
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, April 4, 2003

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23254-2003Apr3.html

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No one could have made a U Turn on Pakistan`s tunnel visioned policy on Talibans except General Musharraf and his followers. Only military could have faced the backlash. Any political Government would have been a casualty of the terrorist attacks.

Now PML-N, PPP, PML-Q, MQM, MMA, etc. can all live in peace, because the terrorists only have the military on their hit list.

In these difficult times, we need calm tempered people at the helms of the affairs, not emotionally driven Islamists, PPP or PML N lot.

SAINT OR SINNER?


April 4th. came and went again as the

Gathering at Garhi Khuda Bux was reported

Smaller this year or was it the wishful thinking of

Opposing forces which prevail today as if

The hanged man is finally buried.


Like a meteor no less but possibly

Enveloped in feudal vengeance and hate

Or liberator of the oppressed powerless

Maybe the user of many tools to climb

To the top position of power or the scaffold.



This breaker or re-maker of the pure country

Now lies in the timeless sands of Mehran

Hero or cursed villain, many visitors to his grave

Say prayers, soul of Larkana famous or

Infamous, he was one of ours.


Guilty or innocent who can forget

The actor or the revolutionary hero

True patriot or traitor, freer of slaves

Or hypocrite responsible for all evil

Let loose in a country seeking excuses.


Many riddles, the memory of 1970`s

Defeat, small victories, economic ruin

Decisions badly taken, even criminal

But as this one observer reflects today

This saint or sinner left quite a void.




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To the memory of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. A controversy that continues.

Abrar Sahib

You are a good person and tend to see good in everything. But I disagree with your analysis.

If Musharraf was sincere and unselfish, he should have held elections and gone back. The Army has now tasted blood and it will be an uphill task to get it back fully confined to its profession. Only the top 50 Army officers matter and not the poor jawans and majors; or the Air Force or Navy.

Another great fear is that MMA may be able to blackmail Musharraf on his Presidentship issue and let some additional Islamic features creep into the constitution.

In the last 50 years, the Mullas have been very clever in exploitiong a greedy unstable ruler and letting their agenda inch forward. Look back at what Bhutto and Zia did. The Mullas have already adopted the popular ``Democracy`` theme to get into power. But their democracy actually means a brutul theocracy.

So, I am not optimistic unless our parliamentarians show courage and will not to accept anything short of an unfettered civilaian supremacy.

...... here we go again - the civilized folks want to get rid of the army and the primitives want to bring in allah mian to run the government .......... it is a loose loose proposition ...........

Naqshbandi #3

as the article says... slowly but surely the changes are coming... their true colours are being shown, and one day change will come... InshAllah

Busharraf always pipes on about Turkey; perhaps one lesson he can learn from the current government in Turkey is how to defend one`s self-respect and honour. Despite being offered $30 billion they refused to allow 62, 000 US troops onto Turkish territory. Yet Mr. Musharraf sold out the national honour of Pakistan by giving into all the demands of the USA for tuppence post Sept 11. Now they have bases in our country and will not likely leave any time soon.

Then again the Turkish government actually LISTENS to its people 90% of who oppose this illegal, crusade against Iraq. Unlike this `saviour` of ours...

Abrar: Good article. You forgot to mention that military in Pakistan has a trump card that can be used as many times as they choose for the next 100 or more years and that is to create the image of soldiers of Islam or defenders of Islam by overtly alligning themselves with the Mullah-Islamists-lotas nexus.

For a langtime to come, Islam will continue to play the role of softening emotions against corrupts, hypocrites, feudals, and others home-based thugs and robbers compensated with hardening emotions against non-Muslims. And Pakistani military will milk it whenever they like. The Islamic republic, nazriya-e-Pakistan and Pakistani military power are tied together.

Another very good article about current political situation in Pakistan is by Shahwar Faryal in the latest issue of SA Tribune at www.satribune.com

The days of parastic Fauji fuks are few. May your dream live long!!